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How do you know they're "better"? That's just your guess. As many managers from abroad fail as turn out to be another Klopp or Wenger. Also not one of those better options would want to be starting on minus points. Same reason Potter wants nothing to do with us.

If your reasons for disliking Cooper are a) that he's ex-Forest and b) he struggled in the Prem then a) grow up and b) remember Maranakis bought him about 40 players and told him to get on with it (Martin Allen and Mandaric style) It's 30 years back when Martin O'Neill was being hounded by idiots who thought he was deliberately sabotaging our promotion bid. I assume if Cooper brought Wes Morgan in as a coach that you wouldn't want him in either? Can really do without another season where people spend 9 months grumbling because they wanted someone else.

Thought this was hilarious, after all the kick off about it, Forest voted to keep it 😆

If you didn't know the cartoon you'd think it was a cartoon of him

Erm, can I introduce you to this man.....

Why hopefully? He's done what any coach or for that matter any one of us would have done. Bigger club, bigger wages, better players etc etc All that AND a guaranteed payoff at the end. He could have stayed here and been sacked in 6 months

Great stuff. I'm off to find a Morrissey album to cheer myself up after that.

Hardly a revolutionary statement is it? Fair play to the guy. If he wins games he enhances his reputation and if he fails he gets a massive sack of cash. Any one of us, even you, would make exactly the same decision in his position.

I always remember The Fox doing a summer diary of that saga 30th May - Swindon beat Leicester 4-3 31st May - The "Keep Glenn" campaign begins 1st June - Glenn Leaves. And let's face it, a lot of people said Enzo would be off in the summer. It was always going to happen with his coaching roots and the Sensi farce which clearly bothered him. We move on.

Loyalty works both ways. It's only 6 weeks ago that "Go on admit you were wrong" thread and about 6 different "sack him" or "whose manager shall we nick" threads were in full swing. Now people are saying HE'S disloyal

Daka never started a single game after that meeting and remember the player reactions to his misses against Millwall and Plymouth. Given he was the go-to striker for 3 months, clearly something was said by one or more players.

Gerrimin!

Yeah but you could get a half time brew for 70p, throw tickertape without being done for littering and spend the second half wondering why the back of your leg was now wet & warm. So it balances out.

There was only one at Saints because they weren't expecting anyone to run onto the pitch just for winning a play-off semi. Like they said afterwards, it's not like theyve been away for 22 years or haven't been promoted before. No chance with somewhere like Leeds with hundreds of stewards circling the pitch. Explain to me why you'd want to run on to the pitch. Jump round in the stands, scream "FXXXXXG YEEEESSSSS!" and go home like a normal person. Anyone for pitch invasions probably has Football Factory as a top 3 film and uses the word "limbs" a lot

Lovely that so many ran on to the pitch rather than be pictured in the stands with him

For the sheer romance of it, we should have just saved this.. Lot of upheaval for the sake of a few residents on Burnmoor Street. Would have saved a lot of man hours debating moving the Kop next to the away fans too (has anyone thought of that btw?)

"Thames" Gold obviously.

What sucks the life out is the offsides. It's always the time they take to draw bloody lines and I don't see anyone else doing that. The Euros will show how well it can operate, just like the World Cup did. Auto offsides will help and then it's just the communication in grounds. A challenge system will end up like subs. The likes of Mourinho and Klopp whining until they get 5 or 6 challenges per game or moaning their challenge was over ruled. The biggest problem in football is that no-one accepts officials decisions, whether tech is involved or not. Refs are sworn at, screamed at and surrounded. In some cases they get physically abused all because their authority is disrespected.

You talk about the Newcastle incident but you'll struggle to find many other occasions where it's been wrong in European games. That gets flagged because it's been a rarity. Even the commentators from TNT and Sky have said the difference is staggering. It's almost un-noticeable. It's always going to be subjective that was never any different and a lot of the resistance has been because people assumed all decisions would be perfect. I'm not 100% behind it but this season has reminded me just how terrible refs are when they have to rely on one glance or completely missed an incident. Get rid of it and it will go back the other way, moaning about refs incompetence/corruption.

Which is totally fixable

It's never going to be perfect because of subjective calls and human error but it is better over there. They don't go looking for issues like our officials do.

Not true. You've obviously forgotten what it was like pre-VAR. Some genuine howlers that cost clubs millions. And it hasn't gotten better as the Championship proved. They need help, they're terrible at their jobs and fans DO mind wrong decisions. We need to do it like they do on the continent. Do it better, not do it without help.

Just make it better. It's fine in most leagues, fine in Europe but two things screw it up here 1. Stop drawing those fxxxxxg lines. If it's that tight it's not clear and obvious, allow the goal FFS. 2. Stop looking at everything in minute detail, looking at ways to disallow something. If you can't do any of those things change it to a manager review option. But honestly the LAST thing we need is for refs to go back to getting 1 in 5 decisions wrong which was the case pre-VAR. Our refs are crap. Full stop.

100% agreement on all of this. There is no indication of our history pre-2010, even that a World Cup winner played for us, just King Power branding. Selling "retro" shirts from 8 years ago and playing a video pre- match is just paying lip service to 125 years pre-Thai ownership

Didn't the breakdown of our finances reveal that we hadn't got relegation clauses in our wages? Our wages went up not down apparently. Hamza for instance was (reportedly) on 53k a week and he renewed his deal in September. I can't imagine he reduced his wages on renewal and would have had a fat signing fee on that too. Except we haven't co-operated and are challenging them through every legal process possible. It'll be 8 and you can guarantee the Prem will have recommended even higher. If we look like breaching the next season too we'll be heading for a 2nd deduction, just like Everton this season. Our best hope for survival is other promoted sides like Ipswich +Norwich/WBA etc struggle and others get hit with deductions. Otherwise we'll be looking at needing 48pts to head off the deductions.