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Interesting mix of views on the Palace message board. A fair percentage just glad to see the back of him basically saying he's been poor for them but a significant minority think he might do ok for us and that he's never been given a proper run of matches. Consensus that he's not got much pace and doesn't win that much in the air though. Does feel a bit like when you go to the supermarket and the area with yellow stickered price cuts and there's only the ham and pineapple pizza left. Hope he does well for us but I'm not sure he's going to score that many goals. Be good if he could get half a dozen based on his time at Palace.

Obviously a very good result but doesn't really tell us anything we don't already know. Good to know we can at least easily beat an exceptionally poor opponent. Hopefully will instill some confidence.

Villa are a very decent side and will not be as profligate in front of goal as Spurs and they are a lot better than Fulham. Think they will win easily. 4-0 to Villa.

I fear this may be correct. I think his statement re player recruitment was very telling. Though , of course, a player doesn't want to see a direct replacement come in, they do want to see signings that at least allow the team to be competitive. Right now it is clear this has not been the case. Two don't event make the starting line up and the other two are basically has been squad players at best.

Won't be a permanent deal just yet another loan to a club with no intention of buying him.. He really needs to go for his own sake. His career is going nowhere here he's just wasting the best part of his career. His agent should be working harder to get this done.

What a mess. Disenchanted key player with little time to move him on and find a replacement. My guess is he will still be here and therefore we have a player playing for us who would rather be elsewhere. Does the manager then play him or leave him out for a worse option, though hard to believe that really would be the case.

Can you just turn up and buy on the evening these days?

Same here to an extent. However, a win helps confidence so I'm hoping we can do this. Cooper really needs a win. A loss here and there will be even more disquiet among fans.

Moyes made it quite clear in his public statements that he was looking to take a break from management at that time.

Well I suppose at least we can't lose during them nor do we have to watch his terrible style of football. Other than that I'm not sure I see a positive.

after €18M + €1M 2cd #LCFC bid rejected. Obviously not the right cds being offered. Typical Rudkin.

Absolutely. Right now we look a disjointed mess. We sit deep, create very little in the way of scoring opportunities. The sole tactic seems to be sit back, hope the opposition don't score or at least only score once and then try to do something for around 20 minutes and hope we get a goal. All this stems from a manger who exudes a negative approach by his set up.

Depends just how bad we are going to be. Wages probably wouldn't be too bad either. I think the manager is a big reason not to come though.

Potential stepping stone maybe?

At least we could all sing look on the bright side of life

He basically has one tactic which is hope the opponents don't score.

Looking a very poor signing. Basically he's come here for a final pay day as no one else really wanted him. He adds absolutely no quality to the side at all and doesn't look like he's even trying very hard right now. Needs dropping but I doubt he will be.

This is the main concern for me. And they haven't looked like they have any sort of pattern or identity in pre season and that has naturally progressed into the season itself. Early days but we've essentially played for 20 minutes against Spurs and fluked a point because they were so profligate in front of goal.

I'm sure he has. There is a difference though between youth players and established older pros. Also hard to say that we've filled up our ranks with a lot of dynamic youngsters. This doesn't seem to be the direction we want to go.

Right now I'd say McKenna is really in. You're getting players talking about what a great manager he is, how good on detail etc etc. Bigger clubs will certainly be watching.

Maybe I am being a bit harsh but I think this is more to do with public perception and profile and Cooper just doesn't have it. I think most of the other clubs in the premier League have managers that players would rather play for. Maybe I'm wrong and I hope he keeps us up. he's sure got a difficult job. You're probably right re manager choice.

True though. They have a more dynamic manager who is highly regarded, definitely more of a draw than Cooper, plus they look like a progressive and interesting project which looks like it knows where it is going (even if it ultimately fails). Meanwhile we look a bit like a rusty old ship desperately trying to patch up all the holes with any old wood we can find.

It is possible this is the case but frankly we have only ourselves to blame for the financial position we find ourselves in and the potential points deduction that may come our way. It would be naive to think that football agents would not be aware of what is going on and it became even more obvious when it was documented by local press and national press, with leaks from the club, that we needed to sell a player for 30 million to help us make FFP regulations for last year. Although there has been some hysterical reporting there has also been plenty of rational stuff in the press about us. I'd say losing a manager regarded in the sport as progressive, upcoming, high profile and attractive to players and replacing him with a low profile manager with a not especially good record has probably had just as much influence in recruiting new players as some dodgy press articles.

That's not necessarily true though is it. If we have allocated 5 million of our budget on the transfer fee, another wadge on his salary and another lot for the agent then, that is money we don't have to spend elsewhere. Therefore we may not be able to match any other club in a transfer. I'm not saying this transfer is right or wrong. personally I think there are arguments to be had both ways. It is obvious he adds a lot of experience and nous which is undoubtedly useful. However, he doesn't add what we really need which is goals. My main concern really is financial if we are relegated. He's not good enough to drive a promotion push and at his age will have no resale value. This means we will be stuck with him until his contract runs out. A diminishing asset. Indeed I'd say that this is becoming more of a concern with each passing season. If we go down we have very few saleable players that could either bring in revenue or help to significantly offset falling revenue.

Completely agree. I think we played well for around 30 minutes. For the other 60 we were either terrible or very ordinary. We were fortunate that Spurs were so wasteful. Other teams will not be. I expect Cooper to use pretty negative tactics here with 8 or 9 behind the ball in a low block. His record with Forest away from home was absolutely shocking. I know some on here have targeted this game as one we can win. I'm afraid I don't think this will be the case. But all depends on which Leicester turn up. If the one from the first half against Spurs I think Fulham will win 3-1 if the second half then it will be closer but I still expect them to edge it.