Les-TA-Jon

This. So hard to play when so much is expected of you all the time. At home games, if Fatawu has possession on the halfway line, the whole crowd goes up in anticipation; it's like he's expected to go half the length of the pitch, beat everybody and lay on an assist or score a worldie each time he has the ball.

People can complain about and blame Fatawu all they want, but we'll likely not have a player anywhere near as good on our books for another 5ish years, on our current trajectory.

What rule is this? And do you mean SCMP or PSR? Because PSR cares about book values and losses, and SCMP only cares about overall player trading income (and 75%/60% turnover and equity injections) vs player costs

Already gone

For added context... Sell with profit: - Fatawu - Mavididi(?) Probably break even/cover wages: - Faes - Winks Fail to sell/fail to profit: - Okoli - Kristiansen - Souttar - Skipp The risk being that sell the youth products (easier to sell, better profit) in order to make the money we need...

Yes absolutely. With potential financial problems - you're looking at minus 12-18 points for administration and delayed payments. So 68 points to be 'safe'? Even without the financial problems - you're looking at a huge turnover of players - we will likely have to sell anyone worth anything, leaving us with a threadbare team of prematurely promoted youth products and players that don't want to be here but couldn't find a way out.

RVN was actually sacked late June in the end. But yes, it was definitely PSR related. I think they were leaving it until as late as possible in the financial year to decide which accounting period could absorb the cost.

Agree - but this bit is fantasy land because there's going to be a huge turnover of players due to our crazy wages. Most players will want out and we'll need to sell a bunch too.

I have no positivity or optimism for next season and think administration and/or relegation to League Two is a real possibility. However, the only thing to cling onto right now is that there's so many unknowns (manager, player turnover) that any sort of prediction is almost pointless.

And let this disgraceful squad skulk off and avoid more scrutiny/embarrassment? No thanks.

First time I've ever genuinely wanted us to lose a match. That's what Topkin have done to us.

So is that 3 year ban in total then? Getting banned for a social media posting is crazy (although I don't know what you posted or where)

I'm out of the loop - what did @Dan do and what did the club do in response? And are fans really getting bans for stuff they post on social media?

I want all of our worst, lazy, most toxic players doing 90 mins. This is their last home match before they all skulk away.

I really don't get this excuse. Isn't Seagrave comparable to some of the facilities at the 'big clubs'?

Presumably this is why there's things like delayed Christmas pay for staff and rumours of various suppliers not being paid creeping in...

Saw this on some facebook post. There's some truth to it but it's largely nonsense. Except we are the only team to be hamstrung by PSR enough to tumble down the leagues... Correct - but it was largely ever thus, and this is not a PSR specific problem per se. They absolutely were - if your financial model relies on qualifying for europe every year then you know that not qualifying for europe is a big vulnerability. And everyone knows how competitive the PL is, so the likelihood of doing so is slim. So the club would have known they had constructed a house of cards. Look at some of the evidence the club put forward to the independent commission who decided on the 6 point deduction. The club budgeted that year (22/23) on the assumption they would finish 8th. That was based on having finished 8th, 5th and 5th in the preceding 3 seasons. And yet they knew that thing were on the wane under Rodgers and that the PL is incredibly competitive and that they would be making ZERO signings Under those conditions how on earth was predicting an 8th place finish part of sensible planning? Note that finishing 18th instead of 8th cost the club £31m in reduced merit payments + the cost of sacking Rodgers and staff (rumoured to be at least £10m+) + the cost of appointing Dean Smith - all before you factor in the actual cost of relegation... This is incorrect. It's about allowable losses, not spending limited to a percentage of revenue. Leicester didn't get relegated due to lack of investment. They got relegated because they backed themselves into a financial corner and left themselves no room to freshen the team, then took too long to change the manager and when did they had no plan, wasted vital fixtures and then appointed someone who was worse. This is incorrect. There is no PSR in League One. Only if they're crap players, managed by crap managers, allowed to stay at the club and lose all confidence and motivation. If they were 'assets in the Premier League' then surely they would be good enough to avoid relegation to League One? It absolutely is a failure of the club. They've had 3+ years and multiple windows to cut their cloth accordingly, remove deadwood, refreshen squad and change the model but haven't. And again - countless other clubs have been able to compete whilst adhering to the rules.

Almost zero chance the club can identify this person, let alone actually appoint them.

Youth/fringe/out on loan is probably more accurate then

Any amount of whataboutism doesn't mean we didn't cheat. And even then we, evidently, cheated in a less effective way than anyone else, since we overspent to end up with 3 relegations in 4 years and a terrible squad of average/toxic overpaid players, now resulting in an existential crisis for the club.

I mean, didn't we reach some sort of settlement with the EFL after overspending, in the 2014 promotion? We 'breached' in 22/23 and potentially 23/24 but got away with it on technicalities and loop holes - Leeds particularly, who didn't go up in 2024 would rightly feel aggrieved. We breached in 2025 and got a points deduction. So, we did 'cheat' didn't we?

I'm not being facetious here - do we have any faith that our recruitment system has any real knowledge of League One level players or how to operate in this market?

Don't know. The 4th year could trigger a re-amortisation? £10m divided by 4 instead of 3?

Struggle to see how we avoid huge losses on the above (other than Fatawu).

Am I missing anybody?