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We need someone to input and number crunch the data, but we know the answer will ALWAYS be:- ‘Buy or Loan an ageing squad player from Crystal Palace or Fulham.’

Not saying he’s the answer but RVN’s not got the failure record or the dour demeanour of Lamps tbf.

The one time Moyes took on a team that were potential relegation candidates (Sunderland), the team were relegated. Moyes kept two big established premier league teams treading water in the prem but we are no longer that after the relegation and the clampdown on PSR. We are like Sunderland were.

The timing will be related to the new recruit IMO. The board acting when it was clear a replacement was incoming. This week will show us I guess. Ultimately the timing doesn’t change the fact that it’s the right decision and as a club we are better off with Cooper no longer in charge.

He should be embarrassed about the recruitment of Cooper. A truly shocking decision. The incompetency that could have directed our DOF to think he was the right man means Top should in turn, be seriously assessing Rudkin’s future at the club.

We performed very badly against Chelsea, irrespective of the result. When only 2 of the 10 outfield players had games that you could argue were 6 or 7 out of 10 then the team underperformed. It’s definitely not delusional to have expected the team to play better.

That backs up what I said. The club aren’t over achieving, the players have continually underachieved and have been lucky to pick up the extra points they have. We are in a false position. Statistically we are bottom 3 in all of the stats that matter XG, XGA etc and now we are playing better teams and without any improvement on the pitch, we have stopped picking up points and luck isn’t enough - we are dropping to where the stats say we should be. Cooper simply wasn’t getting enough out of the players he had and the points he achieved were because he got lucky both with fixture selection in that first 10, some bad finishing from the numerous good chances we’ve given to the opposition and sheer luck that enabled us to defy pretty much every damning stat. You can’t play a season relying on luck.

You can’t say we are overachieving. We have played easier games in the first ten games than we face in the second ten games. Only Everton have a tougher second part of the season than us. Wolves on the other hand had a very challenging first 10 games and now have a set of 10 easier games and they are picking up points accordingly. We are not overachieving, we have got points early on through a combination of an easier run and a good deal of luck. (4 points entirely down to 2 sendings off.) We are now quickly being caught hence Cooper had to go!

Just to be clear, I said football was meant to be entertaining, not guaranteed to be entertaining. Two very different things. You added the word guaranteed and then argued that guaranteed entertainment isn’t possible in football - no one has said it is! 😂

Why would you want Moyes for away games ffs 😂

It depends what you want I guess. He’s got a massive history of treading water in a premier league with relatively big clubs playing pragmatic and a times almost defeatist football (particularly away against the big clubs) that ultimately Everton and eventually Wham fans got sick of. He’s also been relegated from the prem with Sunderland and failed spectacularly at Man U and Real Sociedad. He’s won one trophy in his very lengthy career which is the minor European trophy that was introduced as an inclusivity cup more for countries that have teams that aren’t ever able to qualify for the group stages of The Champions League or Europa League (as they never get through the pre-qualification process for the two bigger competitions.) The involvement of the lower placed bigger euro league teams (from the prem etc) ensures it gets viewing figures. Moyes is the opposite of a Maresca appointment for me and much closer to an old school Cooper style one. I think a few of our players after experiencing the modern coaching of Maresca will be almost as underwhelmed by the recruitment of an old school disciplinarian in Moyesy as they were by the clueless Cooper. As fans we’ll be as entertained as much as we were during the Claude Puel era.

So you accept that football should be entertaining, but then suggest i go and watch a musical to be entertained? Got to be honest, I’d prefer to watch a good footy match than a musical anyway but each to their own. All I’m saying is Moyes does not entertain. Wham fans were sick of it. One obscure cup in a LONG career of pragmatic football at relatively big clubs isn’t enough. What’s the point of appointing a manager that might keep us up but isn’t a long term solution. Why not recruit a manager that might keep us up but who also might have a longer term project as well?

Faked injury? He’s not broken anything. You can be fit enough to go out but have an injury that prevents you from being fit enough to play a football match you know.

If Faes did genuinely help get Cooper sacked then we owe him a massive thankyou! Thank you Wout 🥰

Seen Moyesy is quite popular on here. If we are going down the old school route then there’s a few others that surely need to be considered….

Football is meant to be entertaining you know. Moyes is at the pragmatic end of a spectrum of pragmatism. WHam fans were desperate for him to leave. We need to consider a manager that might be with us for 3 years. Potter & RVN are better progressive options.

Judging by his lack of ability to manage a football team I’d tend to agree that the lad might need some help with the big shop.

Never nice when someone loses their job but it was a terrible appointment. He was totally out of his depth and he didn’t have the trust of his players, never mind the fans. Presumably the club must have someone lined up for them to be this decisive.

He could play Hamza.

The Ipswich one is a bit clutching at straws tbh because going by that logic Ipswich should’ve been down to 10 men in the first half after Phillips elbowed Buonanotte. The game would’ve then evolved very differently.

Utterly absurd to play Wilf with his 50p boots as our number 10. I could understand it when Enzo played him as an 8 alongside a more attacking 8 in KDH last season but to put him almost alongside Vardy today was basically telling Chelsea that we weren’t looking at attacking much.

I thought he was fouled by shithouse Cucurella but with the ref clearly not giving us much and playing on, he should’ve got up and ran back. Time to give Hamza a go and let him invert.

Poor people management again by Cooper. Vestergaard starts the last few games, plays internationally twice, comes back not injured and not only is he dropped to the bench, he’s not even selected for the bench and the sub who was on the bench when he played (Coady) still retains that position? How does that make any sense? Okoli’s passing was pretty woeful today. Vestergaard is our best footballing defender to play it out from the back. To bomb squad him tells us all we need to know about the relationship between the two of them.

He was good today. Him and El Khanouss both showed some quality, creativity and fight.

His LCFC Can’t defend and don’t create many opportunities. That’s been the same story in every game we played against 11 men this season and in pre season. No signs of improvement and we get that same old chat from him after every game. We lose the next 2 or 3 & surely he’s a goner.