Haydos Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Just saw some stats from a Premier League site posted in another thread and it prompted a bit of research and some comparisons that I thought might be thought-provoking. As far as I'm aware a 'created chance' is counted as a 'key pass' or an 'assist' and I gathered the data from www.squawka.com and www.transfermarkt.co.uk.... Minutes per chance created Albrighton - 36.2 (21 in 761 mins) Mahrez - 47 (39 in 1833 mins) Vardy - 65.9 (31 in 2044 mins) Knockaert - 167.5 (2 in 335 mins) Hazard - 34.7 Fabregas - 30.7 Silva - 28.9 Mata - 47.6 Cazorla - 37.3 Sanchez - 36.9 Sterling - 40.9 Navas - 28.5 Pretty damning for those claiming Knocky to be effective. Albrighton has had just over twice the amount of on-pitch time (761 mins) as Knocky (335 mins) but has only created 2 chances compared to Albrighton's 21. Albrighton and to an extent, Mahrez, stack up very well against some of the divisions elite. I think this is a testament to Nige and his scouting team and it perfectly highlights the article with Rob Mackenzie about how we went about identifying, studying and recruiting him.
LCCFox96 Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Albrighton has been key to Vardy and Ulloa's return to goal scoring form in my opinion. He's set up some big goals for us. Off the top of my head, the winner at Burnley was caused through his quality ball into the box and he set 2 goals from set pieces against Newcastle and another of his corners led to a penalty. His direct play suits the team's current system really well.
lgfualol Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Mahrez has created 39 chances and only 3 assists. So many beautiful passes ruined. Albrighton is really useful. He has come in at a good time as often our opposition are on the backfoot and it gives him a lot of chances to cross it in.
Alexikokopops Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Minutes per chance created Albrighton - 36.2 (2 in 761 mins) Is that meant to be 21? I looked at that at first and thought "2 chances in 761 minutes? RUBBISH"
Haydos Posted 6 May 2015 Author Posted 6 May 2015 Is that meant to be 21? I looked at that at first and thought "2 chances in 761 minutes? RUBBISH" Aye! Cheers, now amended. I'd also like to hear Kitchandro's thoughts on this as he'd rather see Knocky here than Pearson.
Fox Ulike Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Just saw some stats from a Premier League site posted in another thread and it prompted a bit of research and some comparisons that I thought might be thought-provoking. As far as I'm aware a 'created chance' is counted as a 'key pass' or an 'assist' and I gathered the data from www.squawka.com and www.transfermarkt.co.uk.... Minutes per chance created Albrighton - 36.2 (21 in 761 mins) Mahrez - 47 (39 in 1833 mins) Vardy - 65.9 (31 in 2044 mins) Knockaert - 167.5 (2 in 335 mins) Hazard - 34.7 Fabregas - 30.7 Silva - 28.9 Mata - 47.6 Cazorla - 37.3 Sanchez - 36.9 Sterling - 40.9 Navas - 28.5 Pretty damning for those claiming Knocky to be effective. Albrighton has had just over twice the amount of on-pitch time (761 mins) as Knocky (335 mins) but has only created 2 chances compared to Albrighton's 21. Albrighton and to an extent, Mahrez, stack up very well against some of the divisions elite. I think this is a testament to Nige and his scouting team and it perfectly highlights the article with Rob Mackenzie about how we went about identifying, studying and recruiting him. Interesting reading. Mahrez plays some excellent 'Hollywood' through-passes to the strikers - but a lot of these still leave the striker with a lot to do. By contrast, Albrighton slings really dangerous balls into the box which lead to really clear-cut chances. So, Mahrez looks a better player but Albrighton's style of play is more effective.
Haydos Posted 6 May 2015 Author Posted 6 May 2015 Not sure it proves a lot. Not sure what proves a lot?
Haydos Posted 6 May 2015 Author Posted 6 May 2015 Interesting reading. Mahrez plays some excellent 'Hollywood' through-passes to the strikers - but a lot of these still leave the striker with a lot to do. By contrast, Albrighton slings really dangerous balls into the box which lead to really clear-cut chances. So, Mahrez looks a better player but Albrighton's style of play is more effective. I think that's to do with their play style and preferred foot. I wouldn't necessarily say Mahrez consistently leaves the striker with a lot to do but he does play more through-balls compared to Albrighton who prefers to cross. He also seems to prefer taking up a more central position or cutting inside and passing rather than crossing inswingers with his left boot.
David Guiza Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 I think Albrighton has proven a lot of people wrong over the past few weeks, now that he's finally been given a chance to do so. I don't remember a huge amount of his time at Villa, just the odd goal etc, and I really didn't know he had that level of work rate in him though, long may it continue. He obviously doesnt have the flair of a Mahrez or a Knocky, but he generally knows how and where to deliver a ball, even the Villa game earlier in the season proved that, should have had two assits for Nugent and James. One big difference was that we've finally started playing to Ulloa's strengths again, and a lot of that has been thanks to him. Should we stay up, i'd love to see us continue with this formation and I think he could be a big player over an entire season.
Haydos Posted 6 May 2015 Author Posted 6 May 2015 These two graphics show the location of the chances created, showing that Mahrez prefers the more central position with around half his chances created coming from the middle of the pitch, compared to Albrighton who has created more than half of his chances from the right flank... Mahrez Albrighton
NGoloMode Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Of course Albrighton and Mahrez are better suited to the Premier League but Knockaert's been coming off the bench mostly when the team was not in form like they are now which is a bit unfair.
ADK Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Not sure what proves a lot? The stats. Albrighton's will look better because he's played when we are playing better as a team against opponents we can beat. Knockeart hasn't had a fair crack so it's a bit unfair to criticise him. I do prefer Albrighton to Mahrez and Knockeart though. More of a Steve Guppy no nonsense type who can deliver a good dead ball.
Haydos Posted 6 May 2015 Author Posted 6 May 2015 The stats. Albrighton's will look better because he's played when we are playing better as a team against opponents we can beat. Knockeart hasn't had a fair crack so it's a bit unfair to criticise him. I do prefer Albrighton to Mahrez and Knockeart though. More of a Steve Guppy no nonsense type who can deliver a good dead ball. I'm not suggesting it proves anything. I specifically said I found it interesting and thought others might do as well. Regarding the point about Knockaert, I still think 2 chances created in nearly 6 hours of football is pretty shocking for an attacking player, regardless of the situation.
cc_star Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 I think Albrighton has proven a lot of people wrong over the past few weeks, now that he's finally been given a chance to do so. I don't remember a huge amount of his time at Villa, just the odd goal etc, and I really didn't know he had that level of work rate in him though, long may it continue. He obviously doesnt have the flair of a Mahrez or a Knocky, but he generally knows how and where to deliver a ball, even the Villa game earlier in the season proved that, should have had two assits for Nugent and James. One big difference was that we've finally started playing to Ulloa's strengths again, and a lot of that has been thanks to him. Should we stay up, i'd love to see us continue with this formation and I think he could be a big player over an entire season. Now that he's finally up to speed and better than the player previously above him in the pecking order Why do people think Albrighton not playing is solely Pearson's fault for not selecting him because of the colour of his trainers or something and not a managerial decision based on expected contributions to outcomes at that particular time in our season. We just don't know how much fitter or more sharp, how improved his ethic is etc & etc Albrighton is now, to when he wasn't being selected
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Interesting reading. Mahrez plays some excellent 'Hollywood' through-passes to the strikers - but a lot of these still leave the striker with a lot to do. By contrast, Albrighton slings really dangerous balls into the box which lead to really clear-cut chances. So, Mahrez looks a better player but Albrighton's style of play is more effective. Agreed. Mahrez for all his silky skills could do better than he does. He often over does things, and gets tackled or goes on a mazey run a then cocks up a five yard pass. Does not show enough desire when it comes to tackling either (but that's not what this is about - I understand!) That's not to say he's not got great dribbling ability, and when he is on it, a joy to watch. I confess to 'having it in for him at the minute'. Seems to have had his head turned by this talk of Spain - not sure the appreciation of him shown by some on here is reciprocated, let's put it that way.
Stadt Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 How does Cambiasso compare.Probably a lot lower but that's to be expected really as Cambiasso (+other CM) are tasked with doing lots of jobs
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Now that he's finally up to speed and better than the player previously above him in the pecking order Why do people think Albrighton not playing is solely Pearson's fault for not selecting him because of the colour of his trainers or something and not a managerial decision based on expected contributions to outcomes at that particular time in our season. We just don't know how much fitter or more sharp, how improved his ethic is etc & etc Albrighton is now, to when he wasn't being selected Pearson has had stick in this regard, because when he played him against Villa at home he was the MOTM, inspiring one of our best performances at that time. Albrighton then didn't start for weeks - he wasn't injured. You have to say they're were many strange things happening like that between October and April, in terms of selection and tactics, this being one one of them.
Dan Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 I think Albrighton's been excellent. His displays of late wouldn't look out of place for a top half side. We've also won 8 of the last 11 that he's featured in.
Dan Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Interesting reading. Mahrez plays some excellent 'Hollywood' through-passes to the strikers - but a lot of these still leave the striker with a lot to do. By contrast, Albrighton slings really dangerous balls into the box which lead to really clear-cut chances. So, Mahrez looks a better player but Albrighton's style of play is more effective. Struggling to disagree with that although I think Mahrez has more to him than just end product. He's a fantastic dribbler of the ball. Probably the best I've seen at Leicester.
Guest Col city fan Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Haydos...where does Cambiasso sit in that list... Yes, I know..... I know! Or James or Drinkwater or King for that matter?
Haydos Posted 6 May 2015 Author Posted 6 May 2015 Haydos...where does Cambiasso sit in that list... Yes, I know..... I know! Or James or Drinkwater or King for that matter? Have a look on Squawker mate, it's a bit of a pain because you have to use that for the chances created and get up transfermarkt for the minutes played. You can just select each player and have a gander though, pretty straightforward.
Guest Col city fan Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Have a look on Squawker mate, it's a bit of a pain because you have to use that for the chances created and get up transfermarkt for the minutes played. You can just select each player and have a gander though, pretty straightforward. Can't be arsed mate...you do it for us...
Nalis Posted 6 May 2015 Posted 6 May 2015 Not disagreeing with the above or anything but 'chances created' can be quite subjective depending on the point being made.
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