Claridge Posted 10 September 2015 Posted 10 September 2015 looks like we are about to witness history, the decline of the labour party as a mass movement for working people .. it has been shat on by miliband and is about to be shoveled up by corbyn and dreamers.. the disconnect of understanding between the aspiring working class and the islington theorists backed by clueless union bosses is almost a shakespearean tragedy... I take no pleasure in it..its not good for the body politic. The aspiring working class have been badly let down by the Labour Party ,that's for sure and it's going to be almost impossible for labour in its current form to regain it.
Rincewind Posted 11 September 2015 Posted 11 September 2015 Children. Behave or you will be sent to the naughty cupboard. This was a reply to posts on the previous page. A whole page of tit for tat squabbling.
Guest Posted 11 September 2015 Posted 11 September 2015 You are welcome to your opinion and I value it greatly although I think you under estimate the silent majority who agree with right wing views. Doctors are always correct though so although I won't like it , I shall prepare for a labour victory in 2020. Ps - I apologise for any grammatical errors in the above post.fat thumbs,small screen ,left school at 16,EAL student sure you all understand.xx Straw man
BoyJones Posted 11 September 2015 Posted 11 September 2015 With all the point scoring going on in this thread, we have no chance of getting relegated this season.
Guest Bilo Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 That result was actually a lot closer than predicted. I expected him to win in the second, perhaps first round.
Guest Bilo Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 I can see Stella Creasy being a good Leader in the future. If Jarvis still doesn't want to stand when Corbyn steps down in a year or two, she'll do very well.
Claridge Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 Tom and Jerry show confirmed Tom Watson saying he's not known for being prepared. Should fit in well with labour. What an awful acceptance speech as well. RIP the Labour party
sphericalfox Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 It amuses me no end that the majority of posters on this thread posting on this thread are non-Labour supporters, and the distinct theme has been merely to troll the opposition by predicting some nonsensical collapse of the left. The worm has turned. Get used to it.
johnny the fox Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 hark the sound of turkey's cheering...christmas is coming early..
Guest MattP Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 Imagine standing on a stage having just been elected deputy leader and saying "ask anyone who knows me and they'll tell you I'm not known for being prepared"
Guest Bilo Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 Political Party for sale. £3, no offers.
Charl91 Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 It does make me laugh that the Tories on this forum are predicting a big collapse from Labour now, but as someone who has never voted Labour before (Voted conservative in 2010, and Lib Dem this year), I'd be much more likely to vote for a Labour with Corbyn in charge than any of the other candidates. I know many people that feel the same way. He's a little left-wing for my liking, but it's refreshing to have a genuine choice now, and someone with a little back-bone and conviction. The other candidates were spineless weather vanes, which seem to give whatever opinion seems to be popular at the time. If he can keep his party in line, he may not be the big disaster that people are predicting.
Guest MattP Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 Anyone who thinks Labour will do well under Corbyn actually want to put their money where their mouth is?
Guest MattP Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 Audience actually seems very lukewarm apart from that usual minority of screeching people.
Claridge Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 Imagine standing on a stage having just been elected deputy leader and saying "ask anyone who knows me and they'll tell you I'm not known for being prepared" and using the words comrades and talking about miners strikes.Two middle aged white males harking back to the 70s and 80s.The dream ticket for labour? My god they must be desperate if this is the best they have to offer as change. When is the next leadership battle do we think as the can't fight an election with these two surely?
Guest Bilo Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 and using the words comrades and talking about miners strikes.Two middle aged white males harking back to the 70s and 80s.The dream ticket for labour? My god they must be desperate if this is the best they have to offer as change. When is the next leadership battle do we think as the can't fight an election with these two surely? Next year, after the local elections.
sphericalfox Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 Anyone who thinks Labour will do well under Corbyn actually want to put their money where their mouth is? I think you underestimate the general public. Some of the arrogance I'm reading across the press and social media is amusing. The more it continues, the more you'll find it galvanising the support behind him.
Guest MattP Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 They won't be, as Bilo has said realistic Corbyn will be long gone by 2020. The scrutiny he'll be under now will be huge and given the company he keeps a huge scandal can't be too far away.
Guest MattP Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 As for underestimating the public, the only thing I underestimated this year was the amount of Conservative voters out there. If the left seriously want to believe the public will galvanise behind Corbyn go for it, but yet again it will be the same people proven wrong time and time again whether it's Foot, Kinnock, Miliband or Corbyn.
Claridge Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 It does make me laugh that the Tories on this forum are predicting a big collapse from Labour now, but as someone who has never voted Labour before (Voted conservative in 2010, and Lib Dem this year), I'd be much more likely to vote for a Labour with Corbyn in charge than any of the other candidates. I know many people that feel the same way. He's a little left-wing for my liking, but it's refreshing to have a genuine choice now, and someone with a little back-bone and conviction. The other candidates were spineless weather vanes, which seem to give whatever opinion seems to be popular at the time. If he can keep his party in line, he may not be the big disaster that people are predicting. His own MPS didn't even want him. Out of the 100 seats with the lowest turnout, 91 are labour. I suppose they may increase their vote in these seats but from many people who didn't vote labour last time in other seats? He may have a bounce in the first few weeks but most labour people I Know are gutted about Corbyn
sphericalfox Posted 12 September 2015 Posted 12 September 2015 They won't be, as Bilo has said realistic Corbyn will be long gone by 2020. The scrutiny he'll be under now will be huge and given the company he keeps a huge scandal can't be too far away. Unless he was molesting kids in some hotel/care home in the 70's/80's then I think the right wing's attempts to scrape the bottom of the barrel will be primarily ignored.
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