Guest Bilo Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 So, Ed Miliband has fallen on his sword. This is perhaps unsurprising considering he managed a worse result than Gordon Brown, no small feat. The question is, who will give Labour the best chance of regaining power in 2020?
Jimothy Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Would like Umunna. Think he's the right man to take the party forward. Think the vote itself will be tight between him and Burnham though.
ScouseFox Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 my only interest in politics was that one of my best mates looks the spit of our ed. gutted he's left.
Webbo Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 They need a pro business leader, which (I think) means Chukka Umunna fits the bill. Tristram Hunt is likeable but could they appoint a public schoolboy after all the abuse they've heaped on Cameron? Don't know enough about Dan Jarvis to comment, The others not a chance.
enmac Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Too late now of course, but Brian Clough in his prime would have been perfect.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Voted Dan Jarvis, but couldn't give a toss, personally.
Guest Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 They need a pro business leader, which (I think) means Chukka Umunna fits the bill. Tristram Hunt is likeable but could they appoint a public schoolboy after all the abuse they've heaped on Cameron? Don't know enough about Dan Jarvis to comment, The others not a chance. Why?
Webbo Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Why? Because being anti business hasn't done them any favours.
Bettsj2 Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Chukka Umunna would be a massive mistake. Just because he's young and black, doesn't automatically mean people will engage with him. Dave would tear him apart at PMQ's. The man for the job was David Milliband but that wont happen. Cooper is the beat candidate but it will probably be Burnham.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 I really like Yvette Cooper, but I can't see past Burnham
Guest Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Because being anti business hasn't done them any favours. But that's not a reason to have a pro-business leader. What about a pro-person leader? or a million other things. You've said that David is the pro-business leader so why have a copy of him and no real choice (again) in an election? time for a female leader.
Jimothy Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Chukka Umunna would be a massive mistake. Just because he's young and black, doesn't automatically mean people will engage with him. Dave would tear him apart at PMQ's. The man for the job was David Milliband but that wont happen. Cooper is the beat candidate but it will probably be Burnham. It's Chuka, he's not a period of time in a polo match I don't think he would get torn apart by Cameron at all. As Webbo said he's more pro business than someone like Burnham. And I do actually thing being young and black will engage certain people. He'd get Sol Campbell's vote for staters
Strokes Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 I quite like young chukka, cooper is dangerous and the rest are pretty bland.
Webbo Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 But that's not a reason to have a pro-business leader. What about a pro-person leader? or a million other things. You've said that David is the pro-business leader so why have a copy of him and no real choice (again) in an election? time for a female leader. Personally I don't mind if they stay in opposition forever but if they want to win they've got to realise that England,on the whole, isn't yearning for more socialism.
BoyJones Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Nobody springs to mind - they all lack charisma and stature. Labour has reaped what is sowed, so to speak. Dumping on their best bet for his nondescript brother was always a strange tactic. It suggested to me that they had no understanding of the type of person required to win over the public. They have got their 10 years in the wilderness their planning deserved.
ADK Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Chuka Umunna is the glaringly obvious choice. Young, black, not tarnished by a previous record in government, well educated and openly pro-business.
Dr The Singh Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Chuck is a coont, can't stand him, so fooking arrogant
johnny the fox Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Chuck is a coont, can't stand him, so fooking arrogant Why fook arn't you putting your name forward? you have my vote you dirty fooker...
Dr The Singh Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Why fook arn't you putting your name forward? you have my vote you dirty fooker...I'm becoming the next UKIP leader. If not BNP
johnny the fox Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 Chuka isn't charismatic enough And the donkey incident ain't gonna help him.............
johnny the fox Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 I'm becoming the next UKIP leader. If not BNP You ambitious bar steward.. when your in, don't forget....get me on the payroll...
Dr The Singh Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 You ambitious bar steward.. when your in, don't forget....get me on the payroll...For that I expect some bum action from you
Alf Bentley Posted 8 May 2015 Posted 8 May 2015 They need a pro business leader, which (I think) means Chukka Umunna fits the bill. Tristram Hunt is likeable but could they appoint a public schoolboy after all the abuse they've heaped on Cameron? Don't know enough about Dan Jarvis to comment, The others not a chance. Saw an interview with Tristram Hunt this afternoon, and was impressed with him, not for the first time - talking about combining social democratic values with support for aspiration, except he put it across very well. I'm not sure the Eton/Bullingdon abuse ladled out to Cameron would rule him out, but I do wonder whether his obvious poshness would alienate some target voters. Maybe a Hunt/Burnham dream team ticket, as Burnham comes across well, is less posh, but maybe lacks the gravitas or intellect or something? I find Yvette Cooper shallow, cheap and obnoxious - and doubt I'm the only one. Surprised at Kendall being mentioned as she just seems like a lightweight greasy-pole climber to me. As for, Umunna, a bright bloke, obviously, and the business attitude might be helpful, but doesn't make him the new Obama. I agree with Dr. The Singh, too, he comes across as massively arrogant to me, and not a team player.
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