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Next Leader of the Opposition

  

154 members have voted

  1. 1. Labour Party (v2)

    • Andy Burnham
      6
    • Yvette Cooper
      2
    • Jeremy Corbyn
      46
    • Liz Kendall
      7


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Not at all.

I'm more than happy for you to post your tripe, but I doubt that there's anybody who considers it, or you, to be relevant.

just got back from the pub....  darlings.....  you and your girlfriends arrogance gets worse.. so only your posts are of any significance then? ok ,,,..ha ha ..have to say, I think  your combined ages is about 32.. ha ha..

Posted

Some Corbyn supporters in the Goose tonight - allrerevolved around hating your own country lol

Good luck guys.

Posted

Cutting a soldiers head off in London whilst shouting Islamic slogans doesn't help. Not sure how Murdoch reported it but I suppose he struggled for a positive light

 

Stop with the straw men already.

 

If you don't think that Murdoch's media influences people strongly on certain topics, then you're a more than a little naive.

Posted

I think it's a good thing, even if just to upset the status quo. If anyone thinks any of the other labour leader candidates stood a chance of winning the next GE, then they're on hippy crack.

Why is having a unelectable  leader a good thing??

Posted

Just saw this in a disabled group Facebook page. Would you have got this with the other candidates.  He is actually a supporter of the group and taken up some of their concerns.

 

If you guys are signed up supporters/members of labour then check your inboxes. Jeremy has just emailed everyone to ask you what questions you'd like him to ask David Cameron at the next PMQs.

 

I'm not signed up so don't know if everyone just means  this group. Maybe MattP has a question? :)

Posted

You're being pedantic. It's one example of many, and while it's not the best, it's easy for the media to exaggerate a situation portray it as being far worse than it is.

I think you're exaggerating how concerned people are, nobody is frightened to leave their home. I don't read the Sun but I'm sure they've never said " fear Muslims".
Posted

Just found an email from Corbyn. Wants a question for PQT to ask Cameron on Wednesday.

Can't think of one ATM. I expect  there will be plenty of people with good enough questions anyway.

Posted

Stop with the straw men already.

 

If you don't think that Murdoch's media influences people strongly on certain topics, then you're a more than a little naive.

The most read media is the BBC website and the most watched station is the BBC. They are hardly pro Tory are they?

Being fixated on Murdoch is another example of how the left blames everyone else but their own policies.

To hear Tom Watson speak yesterday about comrades and the Miners strike shows how out of touch he and Corbyn are going to be. It might go well with the converted, but people don't really care about events from the 70s and 80s. How long before they start wittering on about the end of the NHS and Thatcher. These two still think its 1984 and have airbrushed the fact that we had a labour government for 10 years, who achieved very little in helping their  traditional 'core voters' .

Labour is the party of the chattering middle classes from the public sector who will be scared off by real socialism.

As for being naive the left certainly has the monopoly on that

Posted

The most read media is the BBC website and the most watched station is the BBC. They are hardly pro Tory are they?

 

 

 

Again, another illogical comment. Just because the most read media is one station, that doesn't mean that millions of people don't get their news from other sources. In case you'd forgotten, The Sun is quite a popular newspaper. So is The Times too.

Posted

Sad for labour to see that so many Mps are saying that they would refuse to form part of the shadow cabinet if asked.

 

It is now that labour need to sort themselves out and unify to go forward under the leader that the members have chosen.

 

I wonder how Cooper would have handled not being able to select those she thought best for the positions if she had won.

 

Now we will see what labour are made of.

Posted

Sad for labour to see that so many Mps are saying that they would refuse to form part of the shadow cabinet if asked.

 

It is now that labour need to sort themselves out and unify to go forward under the leader that the members have chosen.

 

I wonder how Cooper would have handled not being able to select those she thought best for the positions if she had won.

 

Now we will see what labour are made of.

 

Is it sad?

 

Each MP is a representative of his or her constituency and was voted as such based on their beliefs and policies.  I think a lot of MPs forget this when they start toeing the party line.  Very few will have campaigned in May for Corbyn style politics - so why should they immediately back him?

 

I'm glad people are sticking their foot down if they don't believe in the cause.  MPs should be much more independent in thought that the usual "you're either blue or you're red" rubbish.

Posted

Is it sad?

 

Each MP is a representative of his or her constituency and was voted as such based on their beliefs and policies.  I think a lot of MPs forget this when they start toeing the party line.  Very few will have campaigned in May for Corbyn style politics - so why should they immediately back him?

 

I'm glad people are sticking their foot down if they don't believe in the cause.  MPs should be much more independent in thought that the usual "you're either blue or you're red" rubbish.

 

They are part of the labour party and were probably voted in on Labour party policies not their own. They are not independants which seem to be what you are describing.

 

Still I think this misses the point. They would be invited to help form the "party line" to create a new unified labour that can actually challenge the dull politics in Britain and the dull conservative party leading the country.

Posted

Is it true that Corbyn got twice the number of votes yesterday as the total number of Tory members?

 

That is something the right wingers on here never told me. 

Posted

They are part of the labour party and were probably voted in on Labour party policies not their own. They are not independants which seem to be what you are describing.

 

Still I think this misses the point. They would be invited to help form the "party line" to create a new unified labour that can actually challenge the dull politics in Britain and the dull conservative party leading the country.

 

Disagreeing with the party you primarily associate with on certain matters does not make you an independent, it makes you normal.

 

They can continue to promote Labour as Labour MPs.  But to sit there with a straight face on the cabinet having spent months telling the world a Corbyn-led Labour would ruin the party would show a complete lack of integrity.  These people clearly do not believe in Corbyn's politics and as such should not be considered nor should they consider sitting on the cabinet.

Posted

Labour on 26% in todays poll, biggest Tory lead since the 90's.

Watching comrade Corbyns speech at the refugees protest showed why he'll never ever be elected, always appealing to the fringe groups, no interest in anyone who is British and wants to do well for themselves.

He should have ran for London mayor really, honestly think he could win that race.

Posted

Winning the leadership race is the easy part - even this victory only equates to around 0.05% of the electorate after all. 

 

Meanwhile, the polls make horrible reading and Corbyn has already cancelled his appearance with Andrew Marr. 

 

I won't lie, I'm dreading Wednesday's PMQs.

Posted

Again, another illogical comment. Just because the most read media is one station, that doesn't mean that millions of people don't get their news from other sources. In case you'd forgotten, The Sun is quite a popular newspaper. So is The Times too.

and so are the mirror and the Guardian .

Idiotic belief in the power of Murdoch is illogical. Sales of his papers have fallen massively in the last few years anyway.

Posted

Apparantly Corbyn isn't going to do PMQ'S? What on earth is that about?

Posted

Winning the leadership race is the easy part - even this victory only equates to around 0.05% of the electorate after all. 

 

Meanwhile, the polls make horrible reading and Corbyn has already cancelled his appearance with Andrew Marr. 

 

I won't lie, I'm dreading Wednesday's PMQs.

Be interesting to see who sits with him on the front benches though.

Posted

Apparantly Corbyn isn't going to do PMQ'S? What on earth is that about?

Lefties ideas of democracy.

You are not allowed to have any view but theirs because only they know the answers

Posted

I wonder whether he will win additional support as an underdog when he gets a regular shoeing from Cameron at PMQs ? Most people I guess would never watch it though.

Listening to a vox pop on the radio this morning I was surprised at how indifferent/ uninformed/ detached the interviewees were. People who confirmed they were lifelong labour voters didn't know the result or got his name wrong. Enough of this political class and he could get elected by default

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