The Horse's Mouth Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 We've taken him off in games for Ulloa or Okazaki. Spurs never replace Kane unless it's for Njie, and he's shit. If they see Son as centrel cover, it'd be him they use not Njie. Not the case at all, if Kane is coming off his job is deemed as done and they're most likely in a comfortable position. Njie is a youngster they probably value quite highly, to give him some experience will help his development. Son was signed because they couldn't get Berahino due to West Brom playing hardball lest we forget.
Donut Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Missing the point massively. What I'm saying some teams, whilst they'll obviously miss their stars, have decent back up so that will still be able to function as a half decent team whilst they are out. It might take a change of style, but they have decent players in reserve. Arsenal lose Sanchez and Giroud, they still have Walcott, Campbell, and The Ox in reserve. Spurs have no cover what so ever for Kane. They have Njie who has no pedigree and would be a big ask to rely on him to lead the line. I know all teams will struggle without their stars, but obviously some teams are going to suffer more when they lose players in certain areas due to having little or no quality cover. I dont understand what youre talking about really, as Walcott, Campbell and The Ox are all different to Sanchez and Giroud just the same as Son and N'Jie are different to Kane. The Arsenal back up players are probably better yes, but its the same difference.
Jimothy Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 But you also said that teams can make slight changes in style, so either Son can play in two positions, or they slightly tweaked their style when N'Jie plays? Njie is shit, doesn't matter what style they play.
Donut Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Njie is shit, doesn't matter what style they play. Because of lines like this, its hard to take your argument seriously unless you can make a proper point.
Jimothy Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 I dont understand what youre talking about really, as Walcott, Campbell and The Ox are all different to Sanchez and Giroud just the same as Son and N'Jie are different to Kane. The Arsenal back up players are probably better yes, but its the same difference. Arsenal back up players are better, yes! That's the whole ****ing point! Spurs striking options behind Kane are different but terrible, ours are different but decent, Arsenal's are different but pretty good. That the point I'm making.
Donut Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Arsenal back up players are better, yes! That's the whole ****ing point! Spurs striking options behind Kane are different but terrible, ours are different but decent, Arsenal's are different but pretty good. That the point I'm making. Well frankly, youd have a hard time convincing me that Son and N'Jie are any worse than Kramaric and Okazaki. I think both have been largely ineffectual but came with pedigree whereas I think your basis is that N'Jie didnt? Or you have an irrational hate of N'Jie
Jimothy Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Because of lines like this, its hard to take your argument seriously unless you can make a proper point. Why? He's a poor player, they can tweak they're style all they like, he's still a poor player. They may play differently when they bring him on, they may play exactly the same way they play when Kane is on, but his technically poor so it doesn't really matter.
Donut Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Arsenal back up players are better, yes! That's the whole ****ing point! Spurs striking options behind Kane are different but terrible, ours are different but decent, Arsenal's are different but pretty good. That the point I'm making. Arsenal's players all over the pitch are better than Spurs' players Thats hardly newsworthy, suggesting Spurs' backups have less ability than Arsenals. Wow. I guess ive misread the whole point of what you were trying to get at, which isnt much anyway.
AKCJ Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Well frankly, youd have a hard time convincing me that Son and N'Jie are any worse than Kramaric and Okazaki. I think both have been largely ineffectual but came with pedigree whereas I think your basis is that N'Jie didnt? Or you have an irrational hate of N'Jie Son is a winger and N'Jie has been awful since joining Spurs, i'd definitely say that Okazaki is better than him.
Corky Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Man United v Chelsea is the battle of the shit home made banners/ flags/ bedsheet scrawlings.
Jimothy Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Well frankly, youd have a hard time convincing me that Son and N'Jie are any worse than Kramaric and Okazaki. I think both have been largely ineffectual but came with pedigree whereas I think your basis is that N'Jie didnt? Or you have an irrational hate of N'Jie Okazaki has proven himself previously. Given a proper run of games up top, his pedigree indicates he will probably come good. Where's the indication Njie will do that? Okazaki and Ulloa are both experienced too, Njie is a kid. There's plenty of reason to believe those two can produce the good, show me something in either stats or his play this season that say that Njie do the same.
Jimothy Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Arsenal's players all over the pitch are better than Spurs' players Thats hardly newsworthy, suggesting Spurs' backups have less ability than Arsenals. Wow. I guess ive misread the whole point of what you were trying to get at, which isnt much anyway. That Spurs don't have much in reserve in their striking options compared to other teams. Is it really that difficult? Christ how to you manage to survive life if your brain can't work that out!
Donut Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Okazaki has proven himself previously. Given a proper run of games up top, his pedigree indicates he will probably come good. Where's the indication Njie will do that? Okazaki and Ulloa are both experienced too, Njie is a kid. There's plenty of reason to believe those two can produce the good, show me something in either stats or his play this season that say that Njie do the same. I dont watch N'Jie every week, so i cant make as informed an opinion as i can about Okazaki and Ulloa. The only way we would know is if he had a run of games, which he wont as hes a backup.
Donut Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 That Spurs don't have much in reserve in their striking options compared to other teams. Is it really that difficult? Christ how to you manage to survive life if your brain can't work that out! Thats been the same for every Premier League season. I thought you were trying to reveal something in your post rather than the bleeding obvious.
Jimothy Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Thats been the same for every Premier League season. I thought you were trying to reveal something in your post rather than the bleeding obvious. I quoted Kitchando who was talking about people taking up Spurs as title challengers! Keep up
Donut Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 I quoted Kitchando who was talking about people taking up Spurs as title challengers! Keep up Fvck trawling through pages of shit posts to find where this non debate started
Jimothy Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Fvck trawling through pages of shit posts to find where this non debate started It's on the previous page, and you directly replied to that very post that replied to Kitchando
Donut Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 It's on the previous page, and you directly replied to that very post that replied to Kitchando Right. Well anyway, its not much of a debate. Spurs in lack of options compared to Man City and Arsenal shocker. So lets move on.
Jimothy Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Right. Well anyway, its not much of a debate. Spurs in lack of options compared to Man City and Arsenal shocker. So lets move on. But they're being talked up as title challengers, that's where all this stemmed from. How can they be talked up as title challengers when they have worse back up then Arsenal and Man City? If people are talking about us not standing a chance for that very reason, then surely the fact Spurs can't be talked up either. The debate was never that Spurs have as a good a backup as others, so obviously we can move on from that, the whole debate was about their title credentials.
Donut Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 But they're being talked up as title challengers, that's where all this stemmed from. How can they be talked up as title challengers when they have worse back up then Arsenal and Man City? If people are talking about us not standing a chance for that very reason, then surely the fact Spurs can't be talked up either. The debate was never that Spurs have as a good a backup as others, so obviously we can move on from that, the whole debate was about their title credentials. Well, assuming they all stay fit, then they are contenders. Itll mean theyre playing a lot but if they do stay fit, they do have a chance.
Jimothy Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Well, assuming they all stay fit, then they are contenders. Itll mean theyre playing a lot but if they do stay fit, they do have a chance. Very difficult for players to play at the high a level every game though and that's why people are talking us down as contenders so I would suggest the same should be said of Spurs.
Donut Posted 28 December 2015 Posted 28 December 2015 Very difficult for players to play at the high a level every game though and that's why people are talking us down as contenders so I would suggest the same should be said of Spurs. Oh yeah i agree but it would be silly to rule anyone out at this stage. And we dont know who will strengthen, and with who yet.
fuchsntf Posted 29 December 2015 Posted 29 December 2015 But they're being talked up as title challengers, that's where all this stemmed from. How can they be talked up as title challengers when they have worse back up then Arsenal and Man City? If people are talking about us not standing a chance for that very reason, then surely the fact Spurs can't be talked up either. The debate was never that Spurs have as a good a backup as others, so obviously we can move on from that, the whole debate was about their title credentials. But they are title contenders, not because of this Bullshit on quality or depth of squad, because like Leicester, they play good football at pace.They like Leicester with the squad they have are in the top 4. Arsenal, and Man.city (Chelsea but lacking character) have better squads, and so called more and better quality players, than Spurs or City, they still need to prove it by keeping, us behind them by the EOS. Throw Liverpool into the mix, and an injury free West.ham, then if Spurs and City keep their injuries and tiredness to a minimum, they are competing for that title, or top 4. My own thoughts are I dont want to look that far ahead, I just want to enjoy the ride, consequences of loss or win, can be analysed at EOS.I dont want to lose the taste of the moment.
Mr gregs Posted 29 December 2015 Posted 29 December 2015 Not the case at all, if Kane is coming off his job is deemed as done and they're most likely in a comfortable position. Njie is a youngster they probably value quite highly, to give him some experience will help his development. Son was signed because they couldn't get Berahino due to West Brom playing hardball lest we forget.like sherwood made sub 2 up down kp thinking that was it!dismissive! Aloof ,!
Mr gregs Posted 29 December 2015 Posted 29 December 2015 Let spurs fans and all BIG team fans keep being dismissive ,assuming etc! Just like they assumed we d go down last season!these big club fans never say "we ve spent more than u in transfer window! U give em facts not predictions ! And they still "dismissive"! " how dare any clubs think they can enter " top4 spending so little! Scout network!! In ref to vardy £1 mill, mahrez£350,000,,collymore said on ts,big clubs won't go to a tier 7 ,or French lge 2 game ,because they are too arrogant to think maybe quality there! Bang on! As I said to arsenal fans ,thought u were going top sat eve AF st Marys, until saints dismissed ,cast aside ,u ,on the pitch, where it matters!
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