Pearson vs. Ranieri

[Guest Col city fan]

Dramatically improved or continued in the same great vein of late last season? Which of those do you think because they don't go together at all

Indeed!

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[Guest Col city fan]

Col, you asked what Mark and Matt thought about things so far. You've had your answer- they were positive and praising.

People will moan about losing whoever the manager is. Ranieri is not unique, it won't be totally personal, it's football supporting life.

Everyone is enjoying it now, the so-called Pearsonites seem pleased, let's enjoy winning matches and playing good football.

Excellent..so we're all on the same page?

Nice one...onwards and upwards.

[Fez of Mahrez]

Just to say, because we don't always get involved in the petty squabbles back and forth, there are also some rational people who:

- thought Pearson did a fantastic job and are thankful for the success he brought us

- understand to some extent why the owners felt it necessary to make a change

- were/are still also optimistic about Ranieri and thrilled with the start he's made

- acknowledge that we will probably lose more than we win this season and that a few defeats in a row wouldn't be the end of the world as long as we're still competing

- grateful that our club is still progressing and that lots of different factors have contributed to that over the past few years

[Hirsty The Blue 94]

I would be labelled a Pearsonite I suppose, but I can tell you I am delighted by the start. Claudio is really seeping positiity and it's great that he hasn't really changed anything from a successful formula.

Of course it's only 2 games, but they were pretty good performances for large parts of the games.

My only minor worry in terms of the differences between the 2 is the recruitment process, that we seem to be only signing players from European sides. A large reason Pearson's recruitment process was successful was he signed young players, non league players, reserves, foreign gems as well as experienced big names. I hope we continue in the future to bring in a wide variety of players rather than limiting ourselves.

[ImBlue]

Don't usually like what Col posts, and this did lack a bit of class. However he has a point, as this place was in absolute meltdown for weeks after Pearson was sacked. With certain posters being smarmy about our 'elite' manager when he was struggling to get deals over the line, making wild predictions of relegation, comparing him to Sven, ripping apart his record as manager etc.

The same people have been very quite and while giving some credit, more often than not it's either begrudgingly or more of a backhanded compliment to Pearson.

Ranieri has been more attacking, more tactically astute, and time will tell if we can continue this, but let's give the bloke credit for himself.

[dylanlegend]

Don't usually like what Col posts, and this did lack a bit of class. However he has a point, as this place was in absolute meltdown for weeks after Pearson was sacked. With certain posters being smarmy about our 'elite' manager when he was struggling to get deals over the line, making wild predictions of relegation, comparing him to Sven, ripping apart his record as manager etc.

The same people have been very quite and while giving some credit, more often than not it's either begrudgingly or more of a backhanded compliment to Pearson.

Ranieri has been more attacking, more tactically astute, and time will tell if we can continue this, but let's give the bloke credit for himself.

It's very early days. A great start. But it's only been 2 games. This is exactly the start we had with Taylor, top of the league, I think this season and next season we will start to see a more CR Leicester. At the minute it is very much a 'NP' side. It depends on the signings CR makes over the next 12-24 months. However, what is most pleasing is that CR seems like he is willing to listen to others (ie. Shaky / Walsh) on some issues and I believe this is imperative. We can't really judge CR on 2 games we need to see where we are after at least one season. New manager syndrome etc (remember Pearce at Forest last season)

Some people are going over the top with saying things like "more attacking, tactically astute" etc etc. that's not really true... If you look at the stats it's very similar to last year. Not dominant on possession but a lot of shots etc. we are a counter attacking and more important pacey side. I won't give CR much credit for this as it is the team he has inherited.

The one thing I worry about is... IF he keeps up his 'tinker man' tag, I think this could potentially damage morale and we seem to be better when we have a settled side. Also, at some point the new signings will play more... How they fit in only time will tell. I see the point of Kante but don't want to see Drinky or King lose out to Inler

All said and done... Great start let's hope we keep it up... And more importantly over the LONG term

[dylanlegend]

If anything this start has shown more of what great signings NP made while at the club... Okazaki, Mahrez, Vardy, Albrighton, Huth. I just hope it was Walsh who was more influential with the signings than Nige.... Cos I really hope we continue to sign these types of players. Not necessarily household names.... But BAGS of potential and most importantly ...... PACE!!

[bob gregory]

The most telling evidence will be when np gets another job.

Will HIS / OUR backroom follow ????imo I don't think they will..

Nigel was out his depth big time and nobody knows that more than shakey and Walsh

[bob gregory]

It's not an np side,, it's a Walsh, shakey, rudkin and most importantly a LEICESTER side..

Anyone would think Nigel was a scouting,man managing, coaching genius with similar skills in media relations..

The mans ego became an embarrassment,,, I'm sure most if not all our players and coaches are happier working with CR

It's very early days. A great start. But it's only been 2 games. This is exactly the start we had with Taylor, top of the league, I think this season and next season we will start to see a more CR Leicester. At the minute it is very much a 'NP' side. It depends on the signings CR makes over the next 12-24 months. However, what is most pleasing is that CR seems like he is willing to listen to others (ie. Shaky / Walsh) on some issues and I believe this is imperative. We can't really judge CR on 2 games we need to see where we are after at least one season. New manager syndrome etc (remember Pearce at Forest last season)

Some people are going over the top with saying things like "more attacking, tactically astute" etc etc. that's not really true... If you look at the stats it's very similar to last year. Not dominant on possession but a lot of shots etc. we are a counter attacking and more important pacey side. I won't give CR much credit for this as it is the team he has inherited.

The one thing I worry about is... IF he keeps up his 'tinker man' tag, I think this could potentially damage morale and we seem to be better when we have a settled side. Also, at some point the new signings will play more... How they fit in only time will tell. I see the point of Kante but don't want to see Drinky or King lose out to Inler

All said and done... Great start let's hope we keep it up... And more importantly over the LONG term

[Babylon]

I'm sure most if not all our players and coaches are happier working with CR

 

Yeah because you know this don't you. 

[Babylon]

Just to say, because we don't always get involved in the petty squabbles back and forth, there are also some rational people who:

- thought Pearson did a fantastic job and are thankful for the success he brought us

- understand to some extent why the owners felt it necessary to make a change

- were/are still also optimistic about Ranieri and thrilled with the start he's made

- acknowledge that we will probably lose more than we win this season and that a few defeats in a row wouldn't be the end of the world as long as we're still competing

- grateful that our club is still progressing and that lots of different factors have contributed to that over the past few years

Obvious Pearsonite, lynch him.

[McFoxy]

My only minor worry in terms of the differences between the 2 is the recruitment process, that we seem to be only signing players from European sides. A large reason Pearson's recruitment process was successful was he signed young players, non league players, reserves, foreign gems as well as experienced big names. I hope we continue in the future to bring in a wide variety of players rather than limiting ourselves.

That's because the scouts look for what they are told too.

When a lot of our team was recruited we were in league one or the championship. As such they were looking for players that could compete and have potential to lift

Lift us out of those leagues.

We had a fairly close escape last season and have lost cambiasso. Now they are looking for players at a premiership level that can compete and raise our league position. Some of our recent signings look like absolute bargains when you look at the cost of some of the dross our competition have signed

It will be a while before you see another vardy

[Guest Col city fan]

Don't usually like what Col posts, and this did lack a bit of class. However he has a point, as this place was in absolute meltdown for weeks after Pearson was sacked. With certain posters being smarmy about our 'elite' manager when he was struggling to get deals over the line, making wild predictions of relegation, comparing him to Sven, ripping apart his record as manager etc.

The same people have been very quite and while giving some credit, more often than not it's either begrudgingly or more of a backhanded compliment to Pearson.

Ranieri has been more attacking, more tactically astute, and time will tell if we can continue this, but let's give the bloke credit for himself.

Cheers mate, but with some of what gets written on here, the accusation of 'lacking a bit of class' is a bit rich, to be fair.

[Babylon]

I would be labelled a Pearsonite I suppose, but I can tell you I am delighted by the start. Claudio is really seeping positiity and it's great that he hasn't really changed anything from a successful formula.

Of course it's only 2 games, but they were pretty good performances for large parts of the games.

My only minor worry in terms of the differences between the 2 is the recruitment process, that we seem to be only signing players from European sides. A large reason Pearson's recruitment process was successful was he signed young players, non league players, reserves, foreign gems as well as experienced big names. I hope we continue in the future to bring in a wide variety of players rather than limiting ourselves.

I think there were some quotes from CR that he'd like to get English players if possible. It may just be words, but if it's true I think it's a good thing to keep a british core to your team. He said and did the same at Chelsea, so I think he's not just saying it either.

 

What leagues they are from obviously is dictated by budgets and where we are as a team. I'm sure we'll keep our eye out for rough diamonds, but rather than spend huge amounts of time scouting say league 2 in france, we're now more likely to watch more league 1... that's just the way it is as we have the money to buy better.

[huddersfieldfox]

Looks like Pearson is going to Sunderland

[huddersfieldfox]

looks like Pearson is going to Sunderland

[bob gregory]

Like I said earlier the most telling time will be when np gets another job,,, I reckon the back room will stay myself, tbh I think they would have already gone by now.... Also think dragging them kicking and screaming to dull wouldn't have helped his cause right now or in the future...

Yeah because you know this don't you.

[Asherz]

so leicester are doing well yet theres still pro pearson actively worshipping him and saying were top coz off him!! .. heard it all now i can die lol'in

[bob gregory]

Sickening isn't it ,,, Leicester City or Nigel City

so leicester are doing well yet theres still pro pearson actively worshipping him and saying were top coz off him!! .. heard it all now i can die lol'in

[Carl the Llama]

so leicester are doing well yet theres still pro pearson actively worshipping him and saying were top coz off him!! .. heard it all now i can die lol'in

Sickening isn't it ,,, Leicester City or Nigel City

 

I challenge both of you to find a quote where someone's said it's all down to Pearson and Pearson alone.  Then I want you to write a reasonable post about why it has nothing to do with Pearson at all.

 

Ready... Go!

[Babylon]

Like I said earlier the most telling time will be when np gets another job,,, I reckon the back room will stay myself, tbh I think they would have already gone by now.... Also think dragging them kicking and screaming to dull wouldn't have helped his cause right now or in the future...

Why would they just walk out? They are under contract, to walk out would mean they get nothing, they aren't stupid.

 

Depends very much on what job he gets, doesn't matter how much they like the bloke I'm not sure they would take what would probably be a fairly large pay cut. So many factors involved it's not easy to say.

so leicester are doing well yet theres still pro pearson actively worshipping him and saying were top coz off him!! .. heard it all now i can die lol'in

Errrr no they haven't.

[foxfanazer]

Would any other club have a group of fans that have so much contempt for a manager that has taken their club up two divisions and survived relegation in the top flight whilst improving our position each season?

[Babylon]

Would any other club have a group of fans that have so much contempt for a manager that has taken their club up two divisions and survived relegation in the top flight whilst improving our position each season?

People don't like to be wrong, to give credit would be admitting they were wrong. Ridiculous that people still try to devalue what he built here.

[ImBlue]

It's very early days. A great start. But it's only been 2 games. This is exactly the start we had with Taylor, top of the league, I think this season and next season we will start to see a more CR Leicester. At the minute it is very much a 'NP' side. It depends on the signings CR makes over the next 12-24 months. However, what is most pleasing is that CR seems like he is willing to listen to others (ie. Shaky / Walsh) on some issues and I believe this is imperative. We can't really judge CR on 2 games we need to see where we are after at least one season. New manager syndrome etc (remember Pearce at Forest last season)

Some people are going over the top with saying things like "more attacking, tactically astute" etc etc. that's not really true... If you look at the stats it's very similar to last year. Not dominant on possession but a lot of shots etc. we are a counter attacking and more important pacey side. I won't give CR much credit for this as it is the team he has inherited.

The one thing I worry about is... IF he keeps up his 'tinker man' tag, I think this could potentially damage morale and we seem to be better when we have a settled side. Also, at some point the new signings will play more... How they fit in only time will tell. I see the point of Kante but don't want to see Drinky or King lose out to Inler

All said and done... Great start let's hope we keep it up... And more importantly over the LONG term

Hold on. He is playing a 4-4-2, which is different to Nigel's excellent run. He's made the selections, being brave to move nugent on, leave out our two record signings and drop Wasilewski who was playing the best football of his time at the club, and we have got results. They may not be all HIS players, but he's doing a good job of getting the bet of them so far, give the man credit.

That moves me on to another thing, why does Pearson get credit for all the signings? It's clear we have a scouting team that's remained in place for CR, and likely we would have pursued Okazaki anyway like we did Kante.

Ranieri doesn't deserve to be living in the shadow of Nigel Pearson, period.

[Babylon]

That moves me on to another thing, why does Pearson get credit for all the signings? It's clear we have a scouting team that's remained in place for CR, and likely we would have pursued Okazaki anyway like we did Kante.

Because it's his team of scouts, put together with Walsh... I would have thought that was obvious. What the club are trying to do is make it their team, rather than Pearson's which is a great thing. But Pearson (and Walsh if he moves on) should still get credit for starting the team. If the other guys stay here without them and continue to do an excellent job, it will be based on what was set out before.

 

The same goes for the sports science department, we weren't particularly well known for scouting or sports science before they arrived. They layed down the foundations to have some of the best setups in the country... why would you not credit him?