Pearson vs. Ranieri

[4everfox]

I'll always love Pearson but todays second half was a Ranieri master class, the first half belonged to the players but the second half was all Ranieri.

[fridoux]

RESPECT to PEARSON,

 

without him, no mahrez nor okasaki, even CR admits to play the same system than last games of the last season.

 

we can like CR without hating Nigel.

[foxes_rule1978]

RESPECT to PEARSON,

without him, no mahrez nor okasaki, even CR admits to play the same system than last games of the last season.

we can like CR without hating Nigel.

Indeed, Pearson wasn't sack for footballing reasons ...

[shade]

Ranieri is someone you can trust, appears a caring man.

Pearson is the English equivalent of Mourinho.

well that's nonsense, most players raved about how caring Pearson was.

[Zorro Colombiano]

los fosse chicos originales

 

Senor Singh, lo siento, pero los britanicos llegarron aqui antes de la India

 

 

[Guest Bob Hazels shorts]

The guy obviously built a decent foundation, who knows if he could of gone that bit further.

 

Season was obviously split.

 

Goodness knows how he is feeling, could be forgiven for being a bit sick that he caused his dismissal and not able to follow up the end of last season.

[Guest Col city fan]

What I want to know is where are the congratulatory posts from the likes of Matt P and Mark w?

We've won two on the bounce, are looking happy, yet I've not seen posts from the staunch supporters of Pearson, praising Ranieri for his tactical prowess of his most enjoyable post-match interviews?

Apologies if I've missed such comments, but it seems like some posters have crawled under a rock at present?

I can't help thinking if we start to lose matches, they'll crawl back out again.

[Frank to be]

Don't know why people are crediting Pearson for Mahrez and especially Okazaki. It's obvious our scouting team is making the signings, maybe with just a sign off from the manager. Pearson didn't even seem to be at the club when Okazaki was signed.

 

Credit Pearson for his man management and team selections/tactic, if you feel the need, but the credit for signings belongs elsewhere.

[Frank to be]

What I want to know is where are the congratulatory posts from the likes of Matt P and Mark w?

We've won two on the bounce, are looking happy, yet I've not seen posts from the staunch supporters of Pearson, praising Ranieri for his tactical prowess of his most enjoyable post-match interviews?

Apologies if I've missed such comments, but it seems like some posters have crawled under a rock at present?

I can't help thinking if we start to lose matches, they'll crawl back out again.

 

Absolutely. There's a few with egg on their faces right now. They'll be back after the first poor result, no doubt about that.

[Nalis]

To summarise the OP.

I really liked Pearson and didn't expect we would make this kind of start under Ranieri, so I just want to remind you of all the things Pearson did so you all don't forget him.

Spot on, that was my synopsis of the OP too.

[wokinghamfox]

CR is at present just continuing the great work that NP had done. These two results are as much about big Nige. Comparisons are pointless and in my eyes NP has built this club from nothing.

[wokinghamfox]

To add to my previous comment we still have Nigels backroom staff and how vital will it be to keep them moving forward. Nigel has gone with minimum distruption and i cant imagine that our start would have been this good without them.

[Carl the Llama]

 

Absolutely. There's a few with egg on their faces right now. They'll be back after the first poor result, no doubt about that.

In fairness I can see why they would be reticent to concede anything to the same plebeians who hounded Pearson from the get go and may well only be vocally praising Ranieri to prove the point that they know a good manager when they see one.  On the other hand it somewhat flies in the face of the accepted knowledge at the time that the ones who supported Pearson were the ones looking on with clear minds.  

 

I suppose if you force a man into defending his position for long enough he'll become entrenched which is what I thinks happened to a couple of the 'Pearsonites'.  It turns out regular trolling/arrogance towards someone can change their behaviour for the worse, I hope the antagonisers are proud of themselves.

[Mark_w]

What I want to know is where are the congratulatory posts from the likes of Matt P and Mark w?

We've won two on the bounce, are looking happy, yet I've not seen posts from the staunch supporters of Pearson, praising Ranieri for his tactical prowess of his most enjoyable post-match interviews?

Apologies if I've missed such comments, but it seems like some posters have crawled under a rock at present?

I can't help thinking if we start to lose matches, they'll crawl back out again.

 

I'm on holiday, but I assure you I'm very happy we've won two games so **** off Col.

Comparing Ranieri to anybody after two games is stupid, but he's made a very good start. Yay.

[MC Prussian]

What I want to know is where are the congratulatory posts from the likes of Matt P and Mark w?

We've won two on the bounce, are looking happy, yet I've not seen posts from the staunch supporters of Pearson, praising Ranieri for his tactical prowess of his most enjoyable post-match interviews?

Apologies if I've missed such comments, but it seems like some posters have crawled under a rock at present?

I can't help thinking if we start to lose matches, they'll crawl back out again.

Colin, we've played two games and Ranieri arrived rather late this summer when he took over. We were rudderless for about a month.

From what I've seen and heard, he comes across as a lovely bloke in interviews. But how much of the current success (two wins in the first two games) is down to him or the foundation laid by Pearson remains to be seen.

I can't think of anyone wishing Ranieri any bad luck, as opposed to the plethora of staunch negativity shown towards Pearson over the course of his last stint with us. You have to admit, that was rather heavy and, for most part, unheard of.

 

On this occasion, I'd like to remind you of what this forum was like when Pearson got us the results. It's almost as if you're happy copying large portions of the argumentation the so-called "Pearsonites" used a year or a year and a half ago.

Bricks and glass houses and all...

[foxfanazer]

There is no Pearson v Ranieri

Pearson has left us in a remarkable position and compare that to what he took over it really is a transformation that not even the optimistic fan could imagine

Ranieri has come in and done it 100% right so far in the sense that he's not looked to change much at all. This speaks volumes for the man that he recognizes our strengths early doors and isn't too headstrong to want to do things his own way.

The transition has been as smooth as possible really

[dedlock]

There is no Pearson v Ranieri

Pearson has left us in a remarkable position and compare that to what he took over it really is a transformation that not even the optimistic fan could imagine

Ranieri has come in and done it 100% right so far in the sense that he's not looked to change much at all. This speaks volumes for the man that he recognizes our strengths early doors and isn't too headstrong to want to do things his own way.

The transition has been as smooth as possible really

Agreed.

CR has shown he is an astute manager.He has not tinkered with the foundation NP left.He made clear from day one that he was impressed with the end of season form and he has allowed that momentum to continue and develop.

[inckley fox]

Don't know why people are crediting Pearson for Mahrez and especially Okazaki. It's obvious our scouting team is making the signings, maybe with just a sign off from the manager. Pearson didn't even seem to be at the club when Okazaki was signed.

 

Credit Pearson for his man management and team selections/tactic, if you feel the need, but the credit for signings belongs elsewhere.

 

They're crediting Pearson because he was the manager at the time, he installed and presided over the scouting network that identified these players (and continues to) and went on record various times - as did Walsh - explaining the process, which involved Pearson specifying what he needed, giving a green light for the targets he liked and the red for those he didn't; right up to pulling the plug at the last minute where necessary. That's more involved than a lot of managers, and certainly worthy of credit where targets work out well. Plus there's the small matter of him getting credit for coaching these players, some of which - e.g. Mahrez - arrived with next to no pedigree in the second tier, and are now among the top upcoming Premier League talents. To not give him any credit for his team-building is your most laughable claim yet.

 

Absolutely. There's a few with egg on their faces right now. They'll be back after the first poor result, no doubt about that.

 

Who's got egg on their face? Any Leicester fan should have been sad to see Pearson leave the club and most of us, myself included, were ill-inclined to accept your theory that he almost certainly deserved it because, well, once he was nasty to a few people so he was probably like that all the time. But I saw next to nothing which suggested that people wouldn't get behind Ranieri.

 

Equally any Leicester fan should be ecstatic about our start to the season. For my part I've said this many times, as have most of the other people who were busy dismantling your arguments in the summer. Your one and only trick back then was to invent a load of things people had said, but hadn't, to add strength to your claims. Is this Wave Two?

 

But I suspect a few people also remember the last time we had an outstanding manager who left the club, how we began the season after that by climbing to the top of the Premier League in October, let alone August, amidst fans talking of the Champions League. We finished 13th at the end of that season. It took longer, even, than that before the distribution of eggs to faces could fully be decided.

 

So if egg is being dished out I see no reason why I, or most others on here, should be getting in line. But to see people so confidently comparing the two managers when their evidence is two games of Ranieri, in which the team Pearson left behind continued in the same form they showed at the end of his reign, to put up against nearly 300 games of Pearson, is absurd. Clearly they've forgotten how the beginnings of the reigns of Bryan Hamilton, David Pleat, Martin O'Neill, Peter Taylor, Rob Kelly, Martin Allen and Sven weren't exactly indicative of what was to come.

 

If it works out - and I believe it can - then I'll continue to be ecstatic. And Pearson will deserve his credit for the role he played in the scouting network he set up, the signings he made, the way he forged a team which went on to enjoy success. But for you to be rushing to conclusions all over again, after just two games, is clearly ridiculous.

[The Horse's Mouth]

I'm convinced Col is a troll now, absolutely no chance a normal poster would lack that much self awareness

[Max Power]

Are we still talking about Pearson? It got boring weeks ago

[bovril]

Colin, we've played two games and Ranieri arrived rather late this summer when he took over. We were rudderless for about a month.

From what I've seen and heard, he comes across as a lovely bloke in interviews. But how much of the current success (two wins in the first two games) is down to him or the foundation laid by Pearson remains to be seen.

I can't think of anyone wishing Ranieri any bad luck, as opposed to the plethora of staunch negativity shown towards Pearson over the course of his last stint with us. You have to admit, that was rather heavy and, for most part, unheard of.

 

On this occasion, I'd like to remind you of what this forum was like when Pearson got us the results. It's almost as if you're happy copying large portions of the argumentation the so-called "Pearsonites" used a year or a year and a half ago.

Bricks and glass houses and all...

 

Isn't that what he's doing? Taking the piss by repeating the tired arguments the 'hardcore pearsonites' used against us of little faith last year. That's how I read it anyway.

 

Anyway... back to the discussion. What NP did in 08 was change the mentality of the club from one that was scared to lose to one that wanted to go out and win. The recruitment policy since then has been fantastic and we find ourselves with an excellent squad. Ranieri is showing that he may be able to fine tune it into a slicker Premiership outfit than Pearson could. Going forward... who knows? Exciting times.

[foxfanazer]

What I want to know is where are the congratulatory posts from the likes of Matt P and Mark w?

We've won two on the bounce, are looking happy, yet I've not seen posts from the staunch supporters of Pearson, praising Ranieri for his tactical prowess of his most enjoyable post-match interviews?

Apologies if I've missed such comments, but it seems like some posters have crawled under a rock at present?

I can't help thinking if we start to lose matches, they'll crawl back out again.

Or you could just sit on the fence and then when we're doing well or not work it in your favour. If I remember correctly you yo-yoed in your support for Pearson quite a few times. Credit to you for not shying away but to dismiss the foundations Pearson has left us in as any reason for these two wins is naive.

Ranieri looks like he agrees as he's changed very little

[ARM1968]

Too early to compare in terms of football and success. However Ranieri's demeanour, class and approach to the press is in a different league. Yesterday he was honest about the match and said we would have difficult times during the season. Then we will see the mark of the man.

[foxfanazer]

Too early to compare in terms of football and success. However Ranieri's demeanour, class and approach to the press is in a different league. Yesterday he was honest about the match and said we would have difficult times during the season. Then we will see the mark of the man.

I like him but this isn't that important to me tbh. Easy saying the right things when we're winning but it'll be interesting to see his approach to the media when things aren't going our way. Hopefully he's not an excuses man

As bizarre as some of Pearson's interviews were at times, they did manage to deflect a lot of attention off of our players

[m4DD0gg]

I find it refreshing to hear an adult speaking in pre and post match press conferences.