Pearson vs. Ranieri

[city187]

Tbf to Col he's been on the receiving end of a lot of posts similar to 1 he's made. If you give it out you have to take it.

Thats fair enough but don't seem to help himself calling out people naming them and goading them for responses because they had a different opinion. Seems abit petty when everything is going so well so far in.

[Mike Oxlong]

Impossible to compare them at this time.

Pearson did great things but took time to find his feet in the PL. my own view is that we only found the golden key when we were forced to play to our strengths rather than worrying too much about containing those of our opponents.

There's no reason to think that Pearson would have regressed, having discovered what worked. I believe that we would have started as positively if he were still at the helm. Only one player of the 14 is likely to be a player that we were not interested in before the sacking.

It will be interesting to see how Pearson gets on should he get a job managing in the PL again.

As for Ranieri, likeable, experienced, generally successful and entertaining. However his legacy is yet to be created so how can we compare?

Just relieved at the moment that we dodged Lenny.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

What I want to know is where are the congratulatory posts from the likes of Matt P and Mark w?

We've won two on the bounce, are looking happy, yet I've not seen posts from the staunch supporters of Pearson, praising Ranieri for his tactical prowess of his most enjoyable post-match interviews?

Apologies if I've missed such comments, but it seems like some posters have crawled under a rock at present?

I can't help thinking if we start to lose matches, they'll crawl back out again.

Me too. They stand out like sore thumbs, as a couple of pro Pearson people, who just don't have the guts, to admit that Claudio is doing a pretty good job, thus far. They were both very mouthy in defence of Pearson, and are doubtless praying that we will do badly.

 

As you say Col, they will crawl out of the woodwork if we have a bad spell. 

[Mark_w]

Me too. They stand out like sore thumbs, as a couple of pro Pearson people, who just don't have the guts, to admit that Claudio is doing a pretty good job, thus far.

Comparing Ranieri to anybody after two games is stupid, but he's made a very good start. Yay.

 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Me too. They stand out like sore thumbs, as a couple of pro Pearson people, who just don't have the guts, to admit that Claudio is doing a pretty good job, thus far. They were both very mouthy in defence of Pearson, and are doubtless praying that we will do badly.

 

As you say Col, they will crawl out of the woodwork if we have a bad spell. 

I.e. you during Pearson's spell? Just sayin'

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

I'm on holiday, but I assure you I'm very happy we've won two games so **** off Col.

Comparing Ranieri to anybody after two games is stupid, but he's made a very good start. Yay.

 

I'm on holiday, but I assure you I'm very happy we've won two games so **** off Col.

Comparing Ranieri to anybody after two games is stupid, but he's made a very good start. Yay.

I bet that hurt. I doubt very much if you would have said anything but for Col's post. 

 

i notice your darling Pearson has not moved on, but then, I'm not really surprised, nobody has seemingly made him an offer. Too much of a liability, with his bad manners, probably.

[Corky]

Your darling Arry has not moved on either, six months after, his surprising decision to, leave QPR.

 

Has your, mate had an, offer yet?

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Why do you have to be such a helmet all of the time?

 

Why do you have to be such a helmet all of the time?

Oh yes, another Pearson lap dog. Col was right in what he said. 

 

There's an old saying "What goes around, comes around." Dig?

 

Me smokum Peace pipe now In Claudio I trust. He my great white God!

[Mark_w]

I bet that hurt. I doubt very much if you would have said anything but for Col's post. 

 

For some reason can't quote other threads properly, but here are some of my thoughts post-Sunderland.

 

 

It was a very promising start and whilst I'm generally keen not to judge situations on one game, it looks like there's a good chance that Ranieri can continue to get a similar level out of players as Nigel did at the back end of last season (obviously we're not going to win every week, but the same commitment and enthusiasm) ... today is reason to be optimistic about our chances.

 

Generally, it is a good idea not to judge everybody else by your own standards DT. You might like to criticize football managers for no reason whatsoever, I do not.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

For some reason can't quote other threads properly, but here are some of my thoughts post-Sunderland.

 

 

Generally, it is a good idea not to judge everybody else by your own standards DT. You might like to criticize football managers for no reason whatsoever, I do not.

 Of course not, you love 'em all. 

[Babylon]

The point I was making (which is actually quite obvious, if anyone chooses to try to understand (I'm convinced certain posters don't..they just like to abuse and to go off at tangents)) is that Ranieri has done a superb job, thus far, in maintaining our form.

This can't have been easy. The squad was Pearson's squad, the sacking was a surprise. Ranieri came in pretty late and had to hit the ground running. But he's been sensible, he seems to got the lads on board. Finally, his press conferences have been a delight compared to the dour, defensive Pearson.

SO...... Where is the congratulations on the part of some posters? The staunch Pearsonites (to coin a phrase). Those who were saying we were doomed? Others that we would get relegated? Not that we MIGHT go down, but that we WOULD?

It's of no surprise that the usual suspects have responded to this question with abuse and accusations of trolling. To be honest, I'd expect no less.

Personally I'm absolutely chuffed for Ranieri and the squad. I said give him a chance and I'd love to see him do good things at this club.

Finally, I say once more...if we start losing, the forum will change once more, as it always does.

Great start Claudio. Keep it going because, at present, you've not put a foot wrong.

 

Seeing as Mark has highlighted a positive post above giving CR credit for carrying things on, I presume you will be apologising to him?

 

As for the forum changing if we lose, well I'd have thought that was obvious, especially to your good self whose opinions change with the wind.

 

PS. It's two bloody games... do you remember Peter Taylor?

[Grewks]

Seeing as Mark has highlighted a positive post above giving CR credit for carrying things on, I presume you will be apologising to him?

 

As for the forum changing if we lose, well I'd have thought that was obvious, especially to your good self whose opinions change with the wind.

 

PS. It's two bloody games... do you remember Peter Taylor?

 

 

 

No-one was as pissed off at us sacking pearson as i was.

 

 

But....if you're gonna criticize ranieri's appointment before a ball is kicked, you can praise the bloke after 2 games.

[Mark_w]

But....if you're gonna criticize ranieri's appointment before a ball is kicked, you can praise the bloke after 2 games.

 

I'm struggling to think of an example of anyone who hasn't praised the performances he's got out of the team so far.

 

By the way, DT and Col's other example, Mattp, posted this after the Sunderland game...

 

 

Fantastic start, the desire, spirit and fearless football was still there, long may it continue.

 

So yeah, maybe Col and DT should have a little think about whether it'd be worth saying sorry.

[Clever Fox]

If CR is still here in 3 years time then it might be fair to compare them. But after 2 games is a bit silly. I actually love them both.

Pearson I love the job he done rebuilding our club root and branch from the bottom up. Yes he made mistakes but he got way more right than wrong. That's basically all you can ask from anyone doing a job of work.  

Ranieri for the calm way he's come in and firstly acknowledged the fine setup Nigel left him. Then continuing the way of playing we finished the season with. He hasn't shouted like some new Managers how he's going to change everything to his way which usually means disaster in most cases. He been smart enough to retain and work with NP backroom staff while integrating some of his own and they seem to be all working well together. 

But that's what maturity and experience give you. That's where he has the advantage over NP. Hopefully we can now benefit from that experience. So yes I actually like them both. While I'm sorry for the way NP left us equally I think CR can take us to the next level quicker. Which is what it appears the owners want.

[CosbehFox]

Silly argument to have after two games.

There are some comparisons with Taylor's start but it would unnecessary to do.

[bovril]

Silly argument to have after two games.

There are some comparisons with Taylor's start but it would unnecessary to do.

 

Very few. We're playing good football for a start. The only similarity is winning at Upton Park.

[CosbehFox]

Very few. We're playing good football for a start. The only similarity is winning at Upton Park.

Our two most sellable players signing brand new contracts, keeping pretty much the same starting eleven, beating West Ham, a favourable run of fixtures at the start. It's irrelevant just like the argument of comparing managers.

It was once pointed out to me a managers performance at a club should be rated a year after they have left as it gives a good indication how much they can get out of the same players.

[fleckneymike]

I still have terrors about that Taylor start. The way the side did well inspite of him, I'm hoping the difference will be signings, Taylor was too quick to try and place his own stamp on the side and when he lost Lennon to Celtic he never managed to replace him.

[foxes_rule1978]

I still have terrors about that Taylor start. The way the side did well inspite of him, I'm hoping the difference will be signings, Taylor was too quick to try and place his own stamp on the side and when he lost Lennon to Celtic he never managed to replace him.

He did replace him... with Junior Lewis... just as he replaced Heskey with Akinbiyi...

[fleckneymike]

He did replace him... with Junior Lewis... just as he replaced Heskey with Akinbiyi...

 

As I said, he never managed to replace him.

 

The recruitment policy verged on the farsical and the speed at which he wanted to overhaul the squad was idiotic, he bombed out Cottee and Walsh which meant having lost Heskey and Cottee all the goals and focal point to our play was ripped from the side. When he replaced them with Akinbiyi and Benjamin we no longer controlled the ball.

[Great Boos Up]

Nigel Pearson is the best manager we've have ever had, and I'm related to MON.

Put your long winded arguments together and I will skip read through them with contempt.

Now we have a good manager and great owners with a fantastic cub set up following administration and I'm backing what I have to support; along with the many families that come to support our beloved club.

Looking forward to the rest of this season and taking my son to his first football match.

[AKCJ]

Oh yes, another Pearson lap dog. Col was right in what he said. 

 

There's an old saying "What goes around, comes around." Dig?

 

Me smokum Peace pipe now In Claudio I trust. He my great white God!

 

 

What are you suggesting?

 

Do you think i'm sad that we've made a bad start? I'm over the chuffing moon.

 

I didn't see it coming and I stand by that. Ranieri hasn't changed a lot when I thought he'd come here and gut the place. Credit to him for that.

 

Why these children have to take some sort of moral high ground over something we're all delighted with is just beyond me.

 

It's like;

 

"I'm really pleased with our start under Ranieri, although I didn't see it coming".

 

then Col or some other plonker coming in and saying "YEH BUT I DID SO IM OBVIOUSLY A BETTER FAN. GO CRAWLING UNDER UR STONE HUR DUR".

[Guest Col city fan]

Sigh.....it gets so tiresome this....

What I was saying was three-fold:

1. Just how quickly people will jump on this forum.. 'Ranieri won't work, we want Pearson back, we're doomed, we'll be relegated'..etc....I think I made a post in the summer to point out that these things were being mooted even before we'd kicked a ball in anger.... Which is just weird.

2. That I'm chuffed to bits with us..at a time we really could have suffered, if anything, we've continued in the same great vein of late last season, if not improved!

3. That the tide WILL turn very quickly if we start losing. I'm not saying we will start losing. I've never said we will start losing..but IF this happens, we'll see posters starting to post more stuff.

Anyway, enough already...the same ol faces will twist this into some sort of cobblers once more I'm sure.

I feel the best about our football club that I've felt in a long long time. I guess what I'm saying is I don't want anything to spoil it, or scupper it. And certainly for people not to resort to sheer negativity if we don't continue producing.

[Corky]

Col, you asked what Mark and Matt thought about things so far. You've had your answer- they were positive and praising.

 

People will moan about losing whoever the manager is. Ranieri is not unique, it won't be totally personal, it's football supporting life.

 

Everyone is enjoying it now, the so-called Pearsonites seem pleased, let's enjoy winning matches and playing good football.

[foxfanazer]

2. That I'm chuffed to bits with us..at a time we really could have suffered, if anything, we've dramatically improved...or at least we've continued in the same great vein of late last season.

Dramatically improved or continued in the same great vein of late last season? Which of those do you think because they don't go together at all