The Politics Thread

[Buce]

Who does a 72 hour crystal meth binge?

Meh, who doesn't?

[RedSoxUK]

What are the students mad about this time???

[Guest MattP]

Not getting free stuff, tonight's protest is the "million mask March" - 9,000 expected to attend.

The main point of the protest is not getting free stuff.

[RedSoxUK]

Not getting free stuff, tonight's protest is the "million mask March" - 9,000 expected to attend.

The main point of the protest is not getting free stuff.

 

I paid the 9k tuiton fees; i've been upset about it... but I would'nt protest over it, just read a book or something.

[Dr The Singh]

Loving the 20 ways to decrease signs of aging.

I'm glad I could be of help

[bovril]

Who does a 72 hour crystal meth binge?

 

72 hour crystal meth orgy, Matt. Get it right for God's sake.

[Guest MattP]

Quite surprised at this, centerist candidate comfortably wins the ballot for the Oldham by-election for Labour.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34743590

 

Only one constiuency of course but it's looks like a lot of the new members already aren't bothering to get involved.

[Guest Kopfkino]

What are the students mad about this time???

 

The fact that the maintenance grant is being got rid of and now all of it will be a loan. It means you get more money overall to help you at uni (better for the poor) but you have to pay it back now instead. I'd be delighted if I was paying it all back cos it means I'm making a decent amount of money in life and then I should pay for the education that afforded be the privilege to earn that wedge. I'm actually quite annoyed that I will be locked under the old system and still get the grant, I'd much rather an extra 600 quid that I may have to pay back later in life. I really struggle to understand student politics, a majority of the active ones have such an inability to reason with anything and I really don't get where all their anger comes from. Some of them just need to go out and get absolutely wankered once in a while and forget life. 

It's also mind boggling how out of touch they are, you can see why some politicians just don't get real life when you realise these are the future. I was speaking to a guy in my halls, he's one of the wannabe career politicians and went to Harrow. I tried to explain to him that people are fed up with these people going to uni and then working in politics all their life and not having a clue what life is like on the outside and he just wouldn't listen or accept it. 

 

As for the protests last night, I saw a bit of it as I passed through Trafalgar Square, it was an odd bunch of people to say the least. I didn't see much untoward but there's always a minority that take the headlines in things like this. What do they actually achieve by setting police cars on fire? It's just an excuse for grown men to act like animals really

[Sharpe's Fox]

The fact that the maintenance grant is being got rid of and now all of it will be a loan. It means you get more money overall to help you at uni (better for the poor) but you have to pay it back now instead. I'd be delighted if I was paying it all back cos it means I'm making a decent amount of money in life and then I should pay for the education that afforded be the privilege to earn that wedge. I'm actually quite annoyed that I will be locked under the old system and still get the grant, I'd much rather an extra 600 quid that I may have to pay back later in life. I really struggle to understand student politics, a majority of the active ones have such an inability to reason with anything and I really don't get where all their anger comes from. Some of them just need to go out and get absolutely wankered once in a while and forget life. 

It's also mind boggling how out of touch they are, you can see why some politicians just don't get real life when you realise these are the future. I was speaking to a guy in my halls, he's one of the wannabe career politicians and went to Harrow. I tried to explain to him that people are fed up with these people going to uni and then working in politics all their life and not having a clue what life is like on the outside and he just wouldn't listen or accept it. 

 

As for the protests last night, I saw a bit of it as I passed through Trafalgar Square, it was an odd bunch of people to say the least. I didn't see much untoward but there's always a minority that take the headlines in things like this. What do they actually achieve by setting police cars on fire? It's just an excuse for grown men to act like animals really

What? You have to apply for a maintenance grant separately if your household income is under £25,000 so why would you be "quite annoyed that I will be locked under the old system and still get the grant"? It obviously wasn't such a bad idea when you were applying for your free £3,000.

[Guest Kopfkino]

What? You have to apply for a maintenance grant separately if your household income is under £25,000 so why would you be "quite annoyed that I will be locked under the old system and still get the grant"? It obviously wasn't such a bad idea when you were applying for your free £3,000.

 

I suggest you do some research on what entitles you to a grant and how you get it mate

[Guest MattP]

Student behaviour at universities is becoming more worrying for a variety of reasons, when Germaine Greer is barred from debate on the "no platform" policy because of her views on transsexuals something is seriously wrong.

Why have this generations students become so offended by perceived offence they are incapable of debate?

[Frank to be]

Frightening to see Dave "private conversations should not be allowed" Cameron pushing on with recording everybody's internet history without much of a resistance this week.

[Rincewind]

There must be a forthcoming Royal event which is more important to the public. 

[Guest MattP]

Andrew Fisher (Corbyn's policy advisor) suspended by the party.

[Rincewind]

Another delaying tactic by a Tory MP http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-health-minister-blocks-law-to-give-the-nhs-cheap-drugs-whose-patents-have-expired-a6724526.html

[MooseBreath]

Student behaviour at universities is becoming more worrying for a variety of reasons, when Germaine Greer is barred from debate on the "no platform" policy because of her views on transsexuals something is seriously wrong.

Why have this generations students become so offended by perceived offence they are incapable of debate?

There's just too many of them. Lots of smart kids are taking on trades and in work training these days. You've got people in the 20th percentile of intelligence getting uni places and attending these events. They're a long way from any sort of respectable body of people.

Such a shame labour ruined higher education. They devalued the whole thing.

[Guest]

Frightening to see Dave "private conversations should not be allowed" Cameron pushing on with recording everybody's internet history without much of a resistance this week.

 

The Lords daren't say anything and MrC. is the democratically elected PM of the country. He can do anything he wants for 5 years - the blues on here said so.

[Guest MattP]

The Lords daren't day anything? You been on Mars the last two months?

[Guest]

There's just too many of them. Lots of smart kids are taking on trades and in work training these days. You've got people in the 20th percentile of intelligence getting uni places and attending these events. They're a long way from any sort of respectable body of people.

Such a shame labour ruined higher education. They devalued the whole thing.

 

Everyone, even the 99th percentile, should be better educated but a form of streaming is possible.

 

The only way to devalue education is to put the emphasis on testing instead of teaching or employ untrained or undertrained teachers.

The Lords daren't day anything? You been on Mars the last two months?

 

I was referring to the lambasting they got for standing up for the majority of the UK population. 

[Guest MattP]

Do you really believe the Lords wouldn't step in again because of that?

[Guest]

Do you really believe the Lords wouldn't step in again because of that?

 

I think they've used up all their energy and nerve for the next 6 months to a year at least.

[Webbo]

I'd be interested to know what specific part of this "snooper's charter" people are against, why and what their alternative is?

[RedSoxUK]

The fact that the maintenance grant is being got rid of and now all of it will be a loan. It means you get more money overall to help you at uni (better for the poor) but you have to pay it back now instead. I'd be delighted if I was paying it all back cos it means I'm making a decent amount of money in life and then I should pay for the education that afforded be the privilege to earn that wedge. I'm actually quite annoyed that I will be locked under the old system and still get the grant, I'd much rather an extra 600 quid that I may have to pay back later in life. I really struggle to understand student politics, a majority of the active ones have such an inability to reason with anything and I really don't get where all their anger comes from. Some of them just need to go out and get absolutely wankered once in a while and forget life. 

It's also mind boggling how out of touch they are, you can see why some politicians just don't get real life when you realise these are the future. I was speaking to a guy in my halls, he's one of the wannabe career politicians and went to Harrow. I tried to explain to him that people are fed up with these people going to uni and then working in politics all their life and not having a clue what life is like on the outside and he just wouldn't listen or accept it. 

 

As for the protests last night, I saw a bit of it as I passed through Trafalgar Square, it was an odd bunch of people to say the least. I didn't see much untoward but there's always a minority that take the headlines in things like this. What do they actually achieve by setting police cars on fire? It's just an excuse for grown men to act like animals really

 

Actually thanks for the reply.

 

I was on the £8,500 a year, no grants - I had some money saved up from work pre-uni, but wasn't specifically financed outside of the loans and a little bit of work. I can understand people being upset not being given grants; and I accept that people from less fortunate backgrounds whos parents may have split up, or been less fortunate in the job market can be harder for some - but largely I noticed the grant was mostly spent on boozing and expensive foods / take-aways etc.

 

If they're given more money overall, I don't see the issue at all - the fact they have to pay it back, another measly few grand in comparison to what? 50k? which a majority are highly unlikely to make a dent with over the next 30 years; it seems pretty minimal.

[Claridge]

There's just too many of them. Lots of smart kids are taking on trades and in work training these days. You've got people in the 20th percentile of intelligence getting uni places and attending these events. They're a long way from any sort of respectable body of people.

Such a shame labour ruined higher education. They devalued the whole thing.

Outrageous thing to say.

 Everyone knows poly's are the same as Uni's.

You will be arguing that the comprehensive system has not been a revelation next .

[The Railway Man]

Soem real serious shit about McDonnell coming out in the papers tomorrow according to Twitter, footage of him toasting British soldiers deaths apparantly.