Buce Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Sorry Buce. I think their purpose is to advise and suggest amendments, that's generally what they have always done. Not outright block, and certainly not block financial matters which is a long term tradition. Thanks, Matt. I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, I'm instictively opposed to an unelected body having any form of political power; on the other hand, part of me wants to conveniently ignore that on the grounds of it being the right decision. I dare say I'd be thoroughly pissed off if it was legislation I approved of being blocked, though.
MooseBreath Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/junior-doctors-who-work-the-longest-hours-will-actually-have-their-pay-cut-jeremy-hunt-admits-a6713136.html Sounds very sensible. Nobody wants to be treated by an overworked junior doctor.
Bettsj2 Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 I'm still not convinced it would have actually been an unpopular policy. Hopefully they just stagger it a little so the large planned living and minimum wage rises offset the losses slightly more. It would be a tragedy if this government was prevented from continuing the superb job they have done at getting people into work by a bunch of bishops and academics. Lets not kid ourselves. If they went ahead with it, it could possibly have cost them the next election already.
theessexfox Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Lets not kid ourselves. If they went ahead with it, it could possibly have cost them the next election already. Surely it's early enough in the cycle to be fairly insignificant come 2020. There's a reason the changes are being proposed and pushed through in 2015, not 2019.
MooseBreath Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Lets not kid ourselves. If they went ahead with it, it could possibly have cost them the next election already. Depends how many people it actually affected. From what I've read, the hardest hit would be young single parents, of which there aren't a great number, who would become better off through increases to the living/minimum wage and the tax free allowance by 2020, and who aren't in any case typical tory voters. For almost everyone else the net affect would be neglible, and some might agree with the need for the cuts even if it directly affects them.
Bettsj2 Posted 31 October 2015 Posted 31 October 2015 Depends how many people it actually affected. From what I've read, the hardest hit would be young single parents, of which there aren't a great number, who would become better off through increases to the living/minimum wage and the tax free allowance by 2020, and who aren't in any case typical tory voters. For almost everyone else the net affect would be neglible, and some might agree with the need for the cuts even if it directly affects them. It doesnt matter how many it actually effects. The spin you'd be able to put on something like that, opposition could dine on for centuries.
Guest MattP Posted 4 November 2015 Posted 4 November 2015 Struggle to see May getting these proposals through, she'll need some cross party support to do it. Just having a watch of the "free education" protest on Sky, hilarious stuff, most of the placards have nothing to do with it, I've seen two refugees welcome banners, numerous ones refering to Cameron shagging a pig and of course a couple of Palestinian flags.
Guest Posted 4 November 2015 Posted 4 November 2015 The idea of bringing back testing for 7 year olds is ludicrous. Testing doesn't improve quality, it has a negative impact. Put the money into on the job repeat training for teachers, bringing older experienced teachers up to date and helping younger inexperienced teachers to learn from the experienced ones. Better teachers = better education.
Guest Kopfkino Posted 4 November 2015 Posted 4 November 2015 Struggle to see May getting these proposals through, she'll need some cross party support to do it. Just having a watch of the "free education" protest on Sky, hilarious stuff, most of the placards have nothing to do with it, I've seen two refugees welcome banners, numerous ones refering to Cameron shagging a pig and of course a couple of Palestinian flags. I saw them gathering outside uni ready to march down earlier on, half of them wearing 'I voted for a new kind of politics' Corbyn t shirts. I wanna go to the Marxist Society meetings actually, think it'd be great entertainment.
Darkon84 Posted 4 November 2015 Posted 4 November 2015 Aaaaaaaaaaaaan right on cue, it turns nasty and violent
Voll Blau Posted 4 November 2015 Posted 4 November 2015 Stoodent revolutionaries are the worst. More arsed about gobbing off and occupying lecture theatres over pie in the sky international issues than actually campaigning on things that matter to their fellow students, as in the ones who elected them to run their union. My uni was notorious for them and I remember once attending a meeting where they debated whether to stage a protest over the Union Flag flying above the campus library FFS. Most of them were well dressed home counties kids or international students driving Jags or Range Rovers to lectures too.
Dr The Singh Posted 4 November 2015 Posted 4 November 2015 I finally have some respect for CorbynGood to see a leader expose India for what it is, a abuser of minorities and persecuter of the truth http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/narendra-modi-uk-visit-jeremy-corbyn-alex-salmond-concerned-over-indias-human-rights-record-1525080 SIGN INhamburgerInternational Business Times UKPoliticsAlex salmondModi UK visit: Jeremy Corbyn and Alex Salmond concerned over India's human rights recordPriyanka By Priyanka MogulOctober 21, 2015 18:30 BST1,034 152Prime Minister Narendra ModiIndia's Prime Minister Narendra Modi has sparked concern among British MPs ahead of his trip to the UK in November.GettyNearly 40 British MPs have signed a motion calling on David Cameron to raise human rights concerns with India's prime minister, Narendra Modi. The motion was started by Jim Cunningham, Labour MP for Coventry South, in July 2015. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn is among the list of supporters, alongside Alex Salmond from the SNP.Among other issues, the Early Day Motion calls for the release of a number of political prisoners held by the Indian state, condemns the ban on Indian Greenpeace activist Priya Pillai from coming to the UK to address British MPs, and questions the Indian government's ban on the BBC's documentary 'India's Daughter', as well as attempts from Indian authorities to block the film from being shown in the UK. The motion also cites an Amnesty International special report on human rights atrocities in Kashmir.ADVERTISINGSponsors of the motion include John McDonnell (Labour), Peter Bottomley (Conservative), Paul Monaghan (SNP), Ronnie Campbell (Labour) and Alan Meale (Labour).Why advertise with us"I was very happy to support the Early Day Motion in respect of the promotion of human rights in India," Monaghan told IBTimes UK. "While I recognise and respect the right of the people of India to develop their culture and their society as they see fit, I would equally, with the greatest of respect, ask political leaders in India to review the circumstances surrounding the hunger strikes and other protests currently being undertaken by individuals fighting for recognition of human rights in that country."More about Narendra ModiNarendra Modi in London: Extra tickets released for Indian PM's reception at Wembley StadiumIndian community protests against Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to the UKIndia beef controversy: Prime Minister Narendra Modi breaks silence on Hindu-Muslim violenceThe motion is supported by a dominant proportion of Labour party MPs, presenting a contrast with a group of Labour party MPs who have actively supported Prime Minister Modi and his visit to the UK in November.Four Labour MPs have also announced that they would be donating their pay rise to help fund a welcome reception for the Indian Prime Minister at Wembley Arena. 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No genocide should be welcome in our pious land .flag / 1 like / replyEnglish10 days agoHatts off Mr. Corbyn, you are true British. You love your citizens. Everybody should know here,,,,,,,, there was riouts in India in 2002in Gujrat. Our two British national went Gujrat at that time . Some extremist Indian national those are member of RSS caught our British national and burnt them alive . They were innocent , they went India as a tourist. You will be shocked to know that Modi was ex - member of RSS. Modi was chief minister of Gujrat at that time in 2002. The killer of our British nationals are still free. You also know here about RSS, this is an organisation who works against minorities of Indian national(Sikh,Christians,and Muslims). Modi was the genocide of 2002 riouts. 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Danno Posted 4 November 2015 Posted 4 November 2015 https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/661897790818263041*searches first flight to panama*
Guest MattP Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 I saw them gathering outside uni ready to march down earlier on, half of them wearing 'I voted for a new kind of politics' Corbyn t shirts. I wanna go to the Marxist Society meetings actually, think it'd be great entertainment. I went to my first Green party meeting the other month with a friend, claimed I was just starting to take an interest in politics. At a methodist hall of course (free tea and coffee), least I could have sunk a few at the local Labour club. Was actually quite surprised, expected it to be all about enviromental issues etc but mostly the talk was about America, 9/11 and all sorts of conspiracy theories etc They were proper tin foil hat brigade but seemed like nice people, then again I didn't tell them I voted Tory. I would love to have filmed myself and seen my face when someone looked me straight in the eye and said they that have the best leader of the lot by far in Natalie Bennett.
Claridge Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 I went to my first Green party meeting the other month with a friend, claimed I was just starting to take an interest in politics. At a methodist hall of course (free tea and coffee), least I could have sunk a few at the local Labour club. Was actually quite surprised, expected it to be all about enviromental issues etc but mostly the talk was about America, 9/11 and all sorts of conspiracy theories etc They were proper tin foil hat brigade but seemed like nice people, then again I didn't tell them I voted Tory. I would love to have filmed myself and seen my face when someone looked me straight in the eye and said they that have the best leader of the lot by far in Natalie Bennett. Person I work with is a green party member.Drippy idealist(mind boggles at some of the green parties ideas) who is great to wind up, but he's a good laugh who wants the best for' the' people
Dr The Singh Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 Singh has copied and pasted the whole internet I was waiting for someone to comment on my post!!
bovril Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 I was waiting for someone to comment on my post!! We're all still reading it.
Dr The Singh Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 Why to foook have BBC published a article on Corbyn wanting to debate Human Rights Issues with regards to China but not India?????? Is the BBC a puppet???? Another point about BBC, they did not cover the human rights abuses of Sikhs, and subsequent deaths of Sikhs by the Indian state and countrywide protest and state media blackout, but go to BBC main page they get a article about a daft women taking going to court over Sikhs jokes, why the fook is it that poeple in India are being killed by the state and not being reported but a daft women lawyer taking the state to court over Sikh jokes is????? I'm not a conspiracy theorist but there is definitely a agenda by the BBC not wanting to upset our ex colonial friends????
Dr The Singh Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 We're all still reading it. Thoughts so far???????
bovril Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 Thoughts so far??????? Loving the 20 ways to decrease signs of aging.
Guest Posted 5 November 2015 Posted 5 November 2015 Singh has copied and pasted the whole internet The real question is, did anyone read it? Maybe Alf was feeling bored. We're all still reading it.
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