cityfanlee23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 First off his studs are up. Secondly his arms are up and wrapped around vardy's leg, he did everything he could there to bring vardy down. I think he is in full control and to attempt to say otherwise is clutching at straws. Done everything he could do to bring him down AFTER he had already won the ball and safely got it back to the keeper?
Corky Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 Kante's challenge was clean, Vardy's wasn't a foul.
cityfanlee23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 Guys there's no point in arguing with cityfanlee, what you need to learn is he's always right and you're always wrongs and he'll use capitals to prove his point of how stupid you are, just to cement it. Capital letters clearly trump photographic evidence too. Capitals because I'm so frustrated at how deluded our fans are, Come on Facecloth, you're not a stupid person... Vardy does not contest it, he had lost the ball well before going down, Okazaki was clearly at fault for tripping over.. It's blatently obvious for anyone to see.. our fans just want an excuse as to why we did not defend the fact we lost the ball and they had to go all the way up the other end and score.. Twice. Neither was a foul, and if vardy gets a foul, so does arsenal for the challenge kante made in the box, where he got the ball (slightly..) then takes the man in the box. Simple.
Foxhateram Posted 26 September 2015 Author Posted 26 September 2015 You cannot grab someone with your arm, The screenshot is of a player not in control of his body!?!? If you think thats a foul, taking the player down after winning the ball... Then kante should have given a penalty away, simple.. If that's a foul, they should have had a penalty. It's not a foul, vardy did not think so, He got tackled fairly, he lost the ball, he did not contest it, CLUTCHING. AT. STRAWS. I get so bored of you really quickly. I watched the repeated highlight on the stream earlier and his arm goes up to bring vardy down, the commentator even suggested the same. He won the ball fair and the challenge was fine, it was the afters that wasn't. The afters is where the free kick should have come. He goes in with his arms and legs down to win the ball them raises them to bring vardy down. It was clear on the slow mo highlights earlier.
cityfanlee23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 Kante's challenge was clean, Vardy's wasn't a foul. Thankyou. Ref was far more likely to give a penalty for Kante's challenge than a free kick for Vardy and okazaki.
Izzy Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 A) You're wrong! B) You're deluded! A) You're clutching at straws! B) You're in denial! A) Shall we agree to disagree? B) OK, fair enough, we lost so it doesn't really matter anyway A) Fancy a pint? B) Cheers
cityfanlee23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 I get so bored of you really quickly. I watched the repeated highlight on the stream earlier and his arm goes up to bring vardy down, the commentator even suggested the same. He won the ball fair and the challenge was fine, it was the afters that wasn't. The afters is where the free kick should have come. He goes in with his arms and legs down to win the ball them raises them to bring vardy down. It was clear on the slow mo highlights earlier. I watched the highlight aswell, came to the same conclusion, I've watched the link above about 10x now and still come to the same conclusion. aswell as others. No foul, if that is a foul, so is kante's A) You're wrong! B) You're deluded! A) You're clutching at straws! B) You're in denial! A) Shall we agree to disagree? B) OK, fair enough, we lost so it doesn't really matter anyway A) Fancy a pint? B) Cheers You need to learn the alphabet mate
Foxhateram Posted 26 September 2015 Author Posted 26 September 2015 Thankyou. Ref was far more likely to give a penalty for Kante's challenge than a free kick for Vardy and okazaki. Shut up about kante. He won the ball cleanly without any debatable afters. Stuck record comes to mind. Grrrr.
reynard Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 Ok Arsenal were really very good. However, if we continue to play such an open game we are going to be bottom 6 very quickly. The way we approached that game today was kamikaze football. We must tighten up at the back. We've played some good stuff but we're conceding too many goals. Mahrez was atrocious today. Looked like a player starting to believe all the hype surrounding him. Well 6 good performances does not make you a world beater. On the plus side Drinkwater was excellent and Vardy took his goal very well. If we had sat back and tried to play them on the counter we might have done better but it was a bit like watching an enthusiastic under 10s team on a Sunday afternoon who have only been taught about attacking and don't bother to defend. A very entertaining game for the neutral and Arsenal fans. I thought the gap between us a sides like Arsenal might be closer than before but today showed just how big that gap really is.
orangecity23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 You need to learn the alphabet mate He's written it as a conversation script between two people, person A and person B. But please, go ahead, tell us how you are right about this as well.
Foxhateram Posted 26 September 2015 Author Posted 26 September 2015 I watched the highlight aswell, came to the same conclusion, I've watched the link above about 10x now and still come to the same conclusion. aswell as others. No foul, if that is a foul, so is kante's You need to learn the alphabet mate Well if you came to that conclusion after watching it that amount if times then you either have rugby fever and are getting confused between the sports. Or you need a new pair of glasses. I bid you goodnight on that bombshell good sir. I shall enjoy another debate where you just say the same thing louder and louder until the other person gives up, again sometime soon.
Izzy Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 You need to learn the alphabet mate A = you B = Foxhatrem
cityfanlee23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 Shut up about kante. He won the ball cleanly without any debatable afters. Stuck record comes to mind. Grrrr. He won the ball then pushed the man in the box.. that was the point, same as vardy, defender won the ball fair, his momentum followed him into vardy's path, Watch the 2 players running direction, neither changes, Defender was always going to have vardy come over the top of him because he slid down, his momentum was always going to take him that way. Pundits did not pick it up, ref did not pick it up, many fans are not so biased they screamed for it, Vardy did not call for it. It's pretty obvious to me Either way, We did not defend well all game and were far too open.
Jimothy Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 Capitals because I'm so frustrated at how deluded our fans are, Come on Facecloth, you're not a stupid person... Vardy does not contest it, he had lost the ball well before going down, Okazaki was clearly at fault for tripping over.. It's blatently obvious for anyone to see.. our fans just want an excuse as to why we did not defend the fact we lost the ball and they had to go all the way up the other end and score.. Twice. Neither was a foul, and if vardy gets a foul, so does arsenal for the challenge kante made in the box, where he got the ball (slightly..) then takes the man in the box. Simple. No, I agree with everyone else. Kante wins the ball and he doesn't grapple the player, he just falls in the process of the tackle, Koscielny wins the ball and as Vardy attempts the run passed to chase it down he reaches out to impede him. Okazaki does cross the path of the defender, but that's still a foul, I've seen hundreds of fouls given for that. The defender needs to be more aware of the players around him.
cityfanlee23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 Well if you came to that conclusion after watching it that amount if times then you either have rugby fever and are getting confused between the sports. Or you need a new pair of glasses. I bid you goodnight on that bombshell good sir. I shall enjoy another debate where you just say the same thing louder and louder until the other person gives up, again sometime soon. Which you've also done?
Izzy Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 He's written it as a conversation script between two people, person A and person B. But please, go ahead, tell us how you are right about this as well.
Foxhateram Posted 26 September 2015 Author Posted 26 September 2015 He won the ball then pushed the man in the box.. that was the point, same as vardy, defender won the ball fair, his momentum followed him into vardy's path, Watch the 2 players running direction, neither changes, Defender was always going to have vardy come over the top of him because he slid down, his momentum was always going to take him that way. Pundits did not pick it up, ref did not pick it up, many fans are not so biased they screamed for it, Vardy did not call for it. It's pretty obvious to me Either way, We did not defend well all game and were far too open. *yawns*
cityfanlee23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 No, I agree with everyone else. Kante wins the ball and he doesn't grapple the player, he just falls in the process of the tackle, Koscielny wins the ball and as Vardy attempts the run passed to chase it down he reaches out to impede him. Okazaki does cross the path of the defender, but that's still a foul, I've seen hundreds of fouls given for that. The defender needs to be more aware of the players around him. So the defender has to give way to attacking players? He runs in a straight line... If okazaki wants to run across when he's not far enough infront to not impede himself that's his fault, Yeah we have had plenty of penalties where vardy has run across defenders in the box... Difference being he normally has the ball at the time.. As I said Koscielny wins the ball, his direction of momentum does not move, as soon as he drops down to slide the ball to the keeper he will never control how his body goes when his studs hit the turf, he starts rolling before vardy comes over the top of him. So in my opinion is not a foul. Kante was similar, he came from behind, won the ball then his momentum took him through his man.
Foxhateram Posted 26 September 2015 Author Posted 26 September 2015 Which you've also done? Nope I have clearly addressed the argument to you in several forms and quoted several pieces of evidence to prove you wrong. I have also used no exclamation marks in any of my posts Love you really
cityfanlee23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 He's written it as a conversation script between two people, person A and person B. But please, go ahead, tell us how you are right about this as well. Yeah.......... Nope I have clearly addressed the argument to you in several forms and quoted several pieces of evidence to prove you wrong. I have also used no exclamation marks in any of my posts Love you really Prove it
cityfanlee23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 A = you B = Foxhatrem Actually I would have been B
Foxhateram Posted 26 September 2015 Author Posted 26 September 2015 Yeah.......... Prove it Meet you at the KP at midnight and I will recreate that grapple for you down a side street (if you're lucky I might even give you some afters). You can be Vardy. *mwah*
cityfanlee23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 Meet you at the KP at midnight and I will recreate that grapple for you down a side street (if you're lucky I might even give you some afters). You can be Vardy. *mwah* Can we recreate Okazaki? And even the Kante incident?
Jimothy Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 So the defender has to give way to attacking players? He runs in a straight line... If okazaki wants to run across when he's not far enough infront to not impede himself that's his fault, Yeah we have had plenty of penalties where vardy has run across defenders in the box... Difference being he normally has the ball at the time.. As I said Koscielny wins the ball, his direction of momentum does not move, as soon as he drops down to slide the ball to the keeper he will never control how his body goes when his studs hit the turf, he starts rolling before vardy comes over the top of him. So in my opinion is not a foul. Kante was similar, he came from behind, won the ball then his momentum took him through his man. It was quite a bit of time after the tackle before Koscielny grappled Vardy, he knew exactly what he was doing. It wasn't part of the momentum of the tackle. Koscielny was floored Vardy was still standing, he knew he had to stop invade his back pass wasn't good enough. Kante doesn't grapple Ramsey, Ramsey just falls because in after Kante wins the ball their legs clash, perfectly natural in a tackle.Okazaki and Arteta are both running in straight lines in paths that are meeting. One thing though, Okazaki is ahead. He can't know for sure where Arteta is but Arteta can be sure of Okazaki, he should check his run and make sure he doesn't catch him, but he doesn't the cynically takes him out to remove a man from our attack.
orangecity23 Posted 26 September 2015 Posted 26 September 2015 Can we recreate Okazaki? And even the Kante incident? I'm off to bed, where I shall be recreating some of our defending, by going to sleep.
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