Cue the defence slating. Arsenal post match thread.

[Jimothy]

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[Izzy]

Meet you at the KP at midnight and I will recreate that grapple for you down a side street (if you're lucky I might even give you some afters). You can be Vardy. *mwah*

  

Can we recreate Okazaki?

And even the Kante incident? 

I sense you've both kissed and made up. It's a beautiful thing

[chapero82]

It's my wife's fault she ruined my City top by putting it in the dryer so I could not wear it. I have been wearing it every match day since we went on the run last year

[Foxhateram]

Can we recreate Okazaki?

And even the Kante incident?

Nah I'm a dirty boy. The kante one is a bit too clean for me. Bit to frigid that! Much prefer grappling people well after the tackle has been done.

[Foxhateram]

It's my wife's fault she ruined my City top by putting it in the dryer so I could not wear it. I have been wearing it every match day since we went on the run last year

Similar incident happened to me. My city shirt that I wear got mud stained while at football. I came home today to find she had put vanish on it and all the white on the king power lettering has run off. Wore it still, but I fear the magic may have *er hum *... vanished.

[cityfanlee23]

It was quite a bit of time after the tackle before Koscielny grappled Vardy, he knew exactly what he was doing. It wasn't part of the momentum of the tackle. Koscielny was floored Vardy was still standing, he knew he had to stop invade his back pass wasn't good enough.

Okazaki and Arteta are both running in straight lines in paths that are meeting. One thing though, Okazaki is ahead. He can't know for sure where Arteta is but Arteta can be sure of Okazaki, he should check his run and make sure he doesn't catch him, but he doesn't the cynically takes him out to remove a man from our attack.

 

No way   Vardy never would have caught that back pass, Cech was already coming out to meet it, never would have got near it.

 

And okazaki was not running in a straight line at all, sorry, We won't agree on this. Okazaki was also Level with Arteta, he's just quicker and came across him, It won't let me attach images just says failed?

[Jimothy]

No way Vardy never would have caught that back pass, Cech was already coming out to meet it, never would have got near it.

And okazaki was not running in a straight line at all, sorry, We won't agree on this. Okazaki was also Level with Arteta, he's just quicker and came across him, It won't let me attach images just says failed?

Didn't say Vardy was going to catch it, but when has not catching something stopped him chasing it. Koscielny still down from making the tackle can't be sure if he will either and decides the safest option is clear all doubt and stop him.

And when I say straight line I don't mean straight as is parallel with the lines, he was running diagonal but he didn't curve his run. At the point of contact he's clearly ahead, Arteta should have checked his stride to avoid him.

[cityfanlee23]

Didn't say Vardy was going to catch it, but when has not catching something stopped him chasing it. Koscielny still down from making the tackle can't be sure if he will either and decides the safest option is clear all doubt and stop him.

And when I say straight line I don't mean straight as is parallel with the lines, he was running diagonal but he didn't curve his run. At the point of contact he's clearly ahead, Arteta should have checked his stride to avoid him.

 

See I'm not sure he should have, the issue if If he checks his run he's practically giving him an even bigger advantage because arteta will have to break stride and then get back into stride again, and with players not the quickest he's going to lose another 10 yards, I just think he has every right to continue his path, and okazaki crossed when he was not far enough infront, If it was on the ball then you'd say arteta was intentionally trying to stop him, but off the ball I can't see it's intentional, he does not change his line and just runs straight and okazaki comes across. I certainly would not break my stride if it was me just to let someone get past me without clipping my stride.... 

[Foxhateram]

See I'm not sure he should have, the issue if If he checks his run he's practically giving him an even bigger advantage because arteta will have to break stride and then get back into stride again, and with players not the quickest he's going to lose another 10 yards, I just think he has every right to continue his path, and okazaki crossed when he was not far enough infront, If it was on the ball then you'd say arteta was intentionally trying to stop him, but off the ball I can't see it's intentional, he does not change his line and just runs straight and okazaki comes across. I certainly would not break my stride if it was me just to let someone get past me without clipping my stride....

If you intrntionally bring a player down its a....... oh nevermind.

[cityfanlee23]

Nah I'm a dirty boy. The kante one is a bit too clean for me. Bit to frigid that! Much prefer grappling people well after the tackle has been done.

 

Don't get me too worked up, I can't control myself as you're fully aware 

[Jimothy]

See I'm not sure he should have, the issue if If he checks his run he's practically giving him an even bigger advantage because arteta will have to break stride and then get back into stride again, and with players not the quickest he's going to lose another 10 yards, I just think he has every right to continue his path, and okazaki crossed when he was not far enough infront, If it was on the ball then you'd say arteta was intentionally trying to stop him, but off the ball I can't see it's intentional, he does not change his line and just runs straight and okazaki comes across. I certainly would not break my stride if it was me just to let someone get past me without clipping my stride....

Why would it not be intentional just because he didn't have to ball, we were breaking with two players, taking him out meant Vardy was on his own and greatly decreased our chances of scoring.

[Larry_LCFC]

Christ there are some big posts going on for this time on a Saturday night. I suggest you guys head for the numerous rachel riley threads and have some fun.

[Foxhateram]

Don't get me too worked up, I can't control myself as you're fully aware

you love it. Cheeky chappy. see you later on...

[cityfanlee23]

Why would it not be intentional just because he didn't have to ball, we were breaking with two players, taking him out meant Vardy was on his own and greatly decreased our chances of scoring.

 

Yeah it would do just that, but arteta does not stick a boot out, he does not have too, He just continues his run and okazaki does it for him,

 

To flip that, why should Arteta check his run and give okazaki another 10 yards on him just so okazaki can get on the other side of him?

Is arteta not allowed to continue his run in the line he was running on? 

I know we are debating something really stupid but surely it's his right to keep running and not check his run giving the opposition an advantage? 

[Jimothy]

Yeah it would do just that, but arteta does not stick a boot out, he does not have too, He just continues his run and okazaki does it for him,

To flip that, why should Arteta check his run and give okazaki another 10 yards on him just so okazaki can get on the other side of him?

Is arteta not allowed to continue his run in the line he was running on?

I know we are debating something really stupid but surely it's his right to keep running and not check his run giving the opposition an advantage?

Not Okazaki's problem that Arteta is slow. He doesn't have the right to keep running into another player if it unfairly prevents him from continuing his run. By your reckoning players should just be allowed to take players out off the ball so as not to allow them an advantage.

[The Doctor]

So, according to cityfanlee anythings fair so long as it's off the ball. The words complete and utter melt come to mind.

[cityfanlee23]

Not Okazaki's problem that Arteta is slow. He doesn't have the right to keep running into another player if it unfairly prevents him from continuing his run. By your reckoning players should just be allowed to take players out off the ball so as not to allow them an advantage.

 

 

Thats not what I am saying... How is he running into okazaki? Okazaki is running across him even though he's not far enough ahead to get across him??

 

That's like hamilton coming across someone on a straight even though he's not far enough ahead to get across without clipping his back tire on his rivals front wing? 

Arteta ran straight, okazaki ran across him, if okazaki is not far enough ahead to get across him without hitting arteta then how is that artetas fault?

 

By your reckoning, if you're faster than another player, we can win free kicks anywhere on the pitch, just run across their body off the ball and clip them? That would be the easiest way to win free kicks and penalties in the world.. we know because vardy has done it more than once... It's ridiculous to be frank.

 

Arteta was running straight, okazaki came across him and wasnt quick enough or far enough ahead to get across him without clipping, that's not Artetas fault and shouldn't be forced to check his run and lose another 10 yards because of it... 

So, according to cityfanlee anythings fair so long as it's off the ball. The words complete and utter melt come to mind.

 

Don't be a ****. It does not suit you.

[The Doctor]

Thats not what I am saying... How is he running into okazaki? Okazaki is running across him even though he's not far enough ahead to get across him??

That's like hamilton coming across someone on a straight even though he's not far enough ahead to get across without clipping his back tire on his rivals front wing?

Arteta ran straight, okazaki ran across him, if okazaki is not far enough ahead to get across him without hitting arteta then how is that artetas fault?

By your reckoning, if you're faster than another player, we can win free kicks anywhere on the pitch, just run across their body off the ball and clip them? That would be the easiest way to win free kicks and penalties in the world.. we know because vardy has done it more than once... It's ridiculous to be frank.

Arteta was running straight, okazaki came across him and wasnt quick enough or far enough ahead to get across him without clipping, that's not Artetas fault and shouldn't be forced to check his run and lose another 10 yards because of it...

Don't be a ****. It does not suit you.

Well, you're the expert. But, let's be quite clear here, if a player is tracking back and clips the legs of a runner, that's a foul, pure and simple, all this how's it fair he has to stop his run is irrelevant, he trips okazaki, it's a foul. You can give this ghost up now, you're wrong (as usual), get over it.

[Leicesterpool]

Not our a day sadly, the first 15 minutes I thought we were fantastic maybe even should have been three up! However when you don't take your chances, you can be punished and today we certainly were. I don't think the score line tells the full reflection of the game, Ideally the score line should have been alot tighter. Arsenal had all the luck going, from shots to decisions and that's why we lost today. We weren't outclassed at all I don't think, so I'm not going to be too hard on the lads today.

 

Just be proud they've had a good start to the season and this is only their first loss of the season in seven.

[lgfualol]

Ergh it's painful to look at the results and see the 5 goals conceded at home.

[Foxhateram]

*stands outside the KP* Lee it's cold alright. Just bare that in mind before we start playing with these tackles.

[cityfanlee23]

Well, you're the expert. But, let's be quite clear here, if a player is tracking back and clips the legs of a runner, that's a foul, pure and simple, all this how's it fair he has to stop his run is irrelevant, he trips okazaki, it's a foul. You can give this ghost up now, you're wrong (as usual), get over it.

 

From now on then you cannot run next to a faster player incase they want to run across you and clip your stride, players have a right of way now.

 

Okazaki misjudged his run. he cut across when he was not far enough ahead, if he had waited another 3 strides then cut across he'd have done so without causing any collision with arteta. 

 

Okazaki got it wrong. Arteta started on a straight line, and finished on that same line.

Okazaki started level, and 4 yards to his right, he then ended up cutting across him. He ran into arteta, not the other way round. 

*stands outside the KP* Lee it's cold alright. Just bare that in mind before we start playing with these tackles.

 

It's too light where you are.. come to the dark bit in the corner

[Jimothy]

From now on then you cannot run next to a faster player incase they want to run across you and clip your stride, players have a right of way now.

Okazaki misjudged his run. he cut across when he was not far enough ahead, if he had waited another 3 strides then cut across he'd have done so without causing any collision with arteta.

Okazaki got it wrong. Arteta started on a straight line, and finished on that same line.

The Doc is right if you clip a player it's a foul. It's not Okazaki's fault, and in reality it's not really Arteta's either, but it's still a foul.

[The Doctor]

From now on then you cannot run next to a faster player incase they want to run across you and clip your stride, players have a right of way now.

 

Okazaki misjudged his run. he cut across when he was not far enough ahead, if he had waited another 3 strides then cut across he'd have done so without causing any collision with arteta. 

 

Okazaki got it wrong. Arteta started on a straight line, and finished on that same line.

You really are an ignorant simpleton. Okazaki was running in a straight line diagonally across, he doesn't curve his run. Arteta sees this and clips okazaki. That's a foul, he's tripped a player, end of story. Now, go build yourself a bridge...

[cityfanlee23]

You really are an ignorant simpleton. Okazaki was running in a straight line diagonally across, he doesn't curve his run. Arteta sees this and clips okazaki. That's a foul, he's tripped a player, end of story. Now, go build yourself a bridge...

 

He doesn't stick a leg out. He continues the same stride throughout, Okazaki misjudges his cut across. and actually okazaki does curve his run from the point of chesting the ball to vardy, he actually runs a few strides away from arteta then curves his run back across him. at the point of okazaki hitting top gear he no longer curves his run. but he's just not far enough ahead.