The Monetary System

[cityfanlee23]

"You don't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist"  - Joe Biden. 

 

Obviously people on here will have their opinion on me, that's fine. But please don't try to picture me as anti-semetic, I can assure you, that is not true in the slightest @@Buce

[MooseBreath]

You thought correct

That is the key to life, I want to be a millionaire, but not for my own gain, I'd love to do some really positive things with that money, I'm not really very time rich at present, but hoping that will pay dividends so one day i can really dedicate my time in a way that benefits society, and obviously want to be financially secure to avoid the shower of crap that is coming in the economy in the next 10-15 years.

What's the point of being financially secure if money is fundamentally flawed? You'd be better off stockpiling guns and ammunition, the ultimate currency.

[cityfanlee23]

What's the point of being financially secure if money is fundamentally flawed? You'd be better off stockpiling guns and ammunition, the ultimate currency.

 

 

I suppose you have a point, I think it asks a broader question of , What is the point in currency?

"IF" (And i don't want to go into detail on this, because it's a never ending conversation) Humans could just "share" we could effectively all live a better life and be secure, whilst sharing the earths resources... But then it all comes down to the human being, no matter how much people deny it, the human race is essentially greedy and competitive. 

 

We will always want more than we have naturally (Even if people say they are content with what they have, and don't want great wealth, they were born without any assets, yet those people have assets, so there is an element of "wanting" things, even if it's not as much as someone else. 

 

So we will always need trade, And currency is the most effective way of doing that, as bartering simply does not work, Money is a fantastic creation, it makes trade very very easy, it's just created in a very corrupt way.

 

Even if we did manage to control how it was created, obviously over time (alot more time than today) it would slowly concentrate to a few people as it has now, and there would be a huge gap between rich/poor again, that's just how it works in a free society, but I think the point of debt, which is essentially a bank telling us "We put these numbers onto a screen therefore you owe us x and y" Is that, it's just numbers, It can be reset, either by choice, or by a total collapse which forces us to restart the system or create a new one.

 

All we can be sure of, is that this one is on course for a huge crash, and has been since day 1..

 

How can a system work of money/debt work, when there is always more debt than money?

[MooseBreath]

Money doesn't need to be backed by anything other than public confidence in its value. It will take some unprecedented event to shake that confidence because the consequences are so dire. If/when that event happens, whatever it is, money will probably be the least of our problems.

[Countryfox]

Not stalking my posts then @@Countryfox   

 

Absolutely not !!!!!

 

Where next though Lee  (just in case I miss it ) .....    "The rise of the Russian (Mafia) state and its danger to world peace' ....    or perhaps ...     "Global warming is it a myth?"  .......     or perhaps ...   "Jeremy Corbyn :  A threat to National security ?"  ......       or my personal favourite .....   "The quality of the nosh (especially cheese burgers), at LCFC".      

[cityfanlee23]

Money doesn't need to be backed by anything other than public confidence in its value. It will take some unprecedented event to shake that confidence because the consequences are so dire. If/when that event happens, whatever it is, money will probably be the least of our problems.

 

 

I do agree, it just needs to be controlled as to how it's printed, It will always crash one day, but it can be reset.

 

The thing that worries me, is that the printing of money has been causing boom and bust for decades now, every single bust is bigger than the last as the bubble created is bigger, the bust we have coming from this stimulus bubble is frightening to me, 100m went into poverty at the last crash, If we carry on as we are, our monetary system will fail completely.

 

Can you imagine life tomorrow if the entire money system crashed today?

Riots would break out, world wars Everything.

[cityfanlee23]

Absolutely not !!!!!

 

Where next though Lee  (just in case I miss it ) .....    "The rise of the Russian (Mafia) state and its danger to world peace' ....    or perhaps ...     "Global warming is it a myth?"  .......     or perhaps ...   "Jeremy Corbyn :  A threat to National security ?"  ......       or my personal favourite .....   "The quality of the nosh (especially cheese burgers), at LCFC".      

 

 

I'll speak to my committee (The voices in my head) 

But as a subject of national importance, I'll try to make sure cheese burgers is next on the list, I fully expect you to attend? @@Countryfox

[Izzy]

I do agree, it just needs to be controlled as to how it's printed, It will always crash one day, but it can be reset.

 

The thing that worries me, is that the printing of money has been causing boom and bust for decades now, every single bust is bigger than the last as the bubble created is bigger, the bust we have coming from this stimulus bubble is frightening to me, 100m went into poverty at the last crash, If we carry on as we are, our monetary system will fail completely.

 

Can you imagine life tomorrow if the entire money system crashed today?

Riots would break out, world wars Everything.

I know this is all very important Lee, but aren't you fretting about stuff you've got no control over?

When you talk about being 'worried' or things are 'frightening' to you, I do wonder.

Would you not be better served by chanelling all this energy into positively growing your own business for example?

Maybe I'm just an old cynic now but I can't be arsed to fight the system any more. I'd rather operate within whatever the system is and control what I can control.

Don't get me wrong, the world needs revolutionaries and pioneers so good luck to you in your quest to change things for the better.

#voteforLee

[jonthefox]

Phew! Can we talk about tits and beer now ?.

[Rincewind]

Phew! Can we talk about tits and beer now ?.

I've been waiting for the subject to change. It was getting too deep.

[cityfanlee23]

I know this is all very important Lee, but aren't you fretting about stuff you've got no control over?

When you talk about being 'worried' or things are 'frightening' to you, I do wonder.

Would you not be better served by chanelling all this energy into positively growing your own business for example?

Maybe I'm just an old cynic now but I can't be arsed to fight the system any more. I'd rather operate within whatever the system is and control what I can control.

Don't get me wrong, the world needs revolutionaries and pioneers so good luck to you in your quest to change things for the better.

#voteforLee

 

I don't think I have control over it as a single person (Maybe i should look for a girlfriend) But as a country (This is not me trying to be patriotic against the powers that be)

We do have to make change happen, because I cannot stand seeing hundreds of millions being put into poverty against their own control/will, I'm not so much a humanitarian, But in a world controlled by money, corrupting peoples source of survival is just a basic human right and should never be messed with how it is today, I'm not calling for a blood stained revolution, but it's good that people can educate others, and in my case, be educated by others who have differing opinions and ideas.

 

The more we know, the more we can do to end it, Bitcoin for example, It started off as a few people with an idea, since then, 14,000,000 are in circulation, it's not much in the grand scheme, but it's a start.. on todays prices those bit coins are worth £2,940,000,000, which is essentially £2.49bn less for the banks, Add to that the peer to peer trading platforms that are arising, and people are starting to take action. 

 

Take for example the things we have lost due to this corruption..

The Rothschild's/Morgans funded Nikola Tesla to study alternative energies, When they found out he was working out ways to provide an infinite amount of energy to the world, with no costs, they cut his funding, and his records were destroyed! Imagine where we would be now if his findings were allowed to carry on from from the early 1900's?

 

^^^^^ Now that is something that could be considered "Conspiracy" but it's one I wholeheartedly believe given the current controls we have over money today.

 

"Mad world"

[Webbo]

Exactly, see above comment. Not trying to get into the conspiracy's etc just to try and throw opinion about, but the FACT is that the rothchilds effectively are the most powerful family on earth as we know it, and have huge control over our lives through money, the effectively control it in different ways, It's a huge subject, I'm probably more knowledgeable to the ins/outs than the average person because I've actively gone out to study it, but in terms of the grand scheme, i'm in no way an expert on it, so don't want to get into accusations on specific events, but they do control the banks, the same banks that are fraudulently putting millions into poverty.

Can I see some evidence for that proven FACT? And not just somebody's opinion on a youtube video.

[Buce]

Can I see some evidence for that proven FACT? And not just somebody's opinion on a youtube video.

He wrote it in capital letters. What more evidence do you need?

[cityfanlee23]

Can I see some evidence for that proven FACT? And not just somebody's opinion on a youtube video.

 

Which part?

 

You need evidence that the rothschild's own the Federal reserve? run the IMF? 

[cityfanlee23]

He wrote it in capital letters. What more evidence do you need?

 

Buce do you really feel the need to respond on my behalf? Don't appreciate sarcasm, especially after being accused of being anti-semitic, because you don't know the difference between a religion and political group.....

 

Nazi's were a political group, does not make all Germans Nazi's does it?

Zionism is a political movement, it does not make me anti-semitic to be against rothchild Zionists.

[Webbo]

Which part?

 

You need evidence that the rothschild's own the Federal reserve? run the IMF? 

Yes.

[Izzy]

Which part?

 

You need evidence that the rothschild's own the Federal reserve? run the IMF? 

 

 

Yes.

 

Poor old Lee. He's got a business to manage and you've got him running off frantically gathering evidence for you

[cityfanlee23]

Yes.

 

Well, you could simply google the Bank deals of the 1800's and 1900's between the Morgans, Rockerfellers and rothschild' families,

You can look into the federal reserve act of 1913, read through it, it was funded by the rothschilds, and directly funds money markets globally to manipulate the price of the USD to stop a market crash. 

 

The Rothschild family created the federal reserve. 

 

Have a research into the "House of rothschild" 

You could look into how they funded World War 2

 

Research into the battle of waterloo, Where Nathan rothschild got inside information on the outcome of the battle before anyone else, and played the markets, Selling his english bonds, giving the impression the french had won, this caused a market crash from traders who followed his trades, taking english bonds down to 5% of their original worth, When the news came back that the English had won, The price rocketed, and he increased his wealth by more than 15 fold. This made him the single largest Debtor of the English government., Effectively giving him control of the bank of england. The rothschild family had control until the bank was nationalized in 1946. 

This gave him power to control the nation. Check his famous quote "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.” - Nathan Rothschild"

 

Amsel Rothschild - 1838 "Let me issue and control a nations money and I care not who makes it's laws"

 

Who runs the IMF? Zionist Rothschilds.. 

 

Research into the 5 sons who went abroad to branch out the rothschild banking firm

 

Nathan - Took control of the Bank of England.

Soloman - Austria, then became leader of the Austria-Hungary Empire (The very people that started world war 1 after the assasination of franz ferdinand)

Amschel - Propelled Germany to financial heights under Bismarck

Carl - Became the most powerful man in Italy after going to Naples

James Jacob - Central bank of paris.

 

By 1850, the rothschild family had more money than every single family in europe combined. 

 

I could sit here all night and reel off the history of their family, you can check all of this, Especially the waterloo market and his exact remarks about controlling our nation.

 

Surely you can not be denying how powerful this family are and how they control our governments through world banking control?

[cityfanlee23]

Poor old Lee. He's got a business to manage and you've got him running off frantically gathering evidence for you

 

Does not take 2 seconds to find information on how they run the banks, they've run them for hundreds of years, they controlled the Bank of England through stock market manipulation of Government bonds, Cannot believe he seriously needed me to tell him that, something so significant in his own country, Fully expect he was just trying to waste my time to be awkward, but I love him anyway 

[cityfanlee23]

An award winning documentary "The Four Horsemen"

 

Or read the about the federal reserve cartel families, how they run the federal reserve (Which manipulates markets globally to boost USD prices, for example look Congressman Alan Grayson questioning Bernard bernake (Rothschild Zionist) about the £500,000,000,000 they pumped into markets after the crash, He said he did not know where this money had gone.......

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families/25080

 

 

When AIG went bust (A private insurance company) over 77% of americans voted AGAINST bailouts, but because it's the insurance broker of Goldman sachs (Run by zionists, part funded by the rothschilds) the Federal reserve (Rothschild reserve) done it anyway with the tax payers money.... 

 

Google the AIG goldman sachs scandal. 

 

 

Very very easy to see how they control EVERYTHING money related.

[Webbo]

Well, you could simply google the Bank deals of the 1800's and 1900's between the Morgans, Rockerfellers and rothschild' families,

You can look into the federal reserve act of 1913, read through it, it was funded by the rothschilds, and directly funds money markets globally to manipulate the price of the USD to stop a market crash. 

 

The Rothschild family created the federal reserve. 

 

Have a research into the "House of rothschild" 

You could look into how they funded World War 2

 

Research into the battle of waterloo, Where Nathan rothschild got inside information on the outcome of the battle before anyone else, and played the markets, Selling his english bonds, giving the impression the french had won, this caused a market crash from traders who followed his trades, taking english bonds down to 5% of their original worth, When the news came back that the English had won, The price rocketed, and he increased his wealth by more than 15 fold. This made him the single largest Debtor of the English government., Effectively giving him control of the bank of england. The rothschild family had control until the bank was nationalized in 1946. 

This gave him power to control the nation. Check his famous quote "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain’s money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply.” - Nathan Rothschild"

 

Amsel Rothschild - 1838 "Let me issue and control a nations money and I care not who makes it's laws"

 

Who runs the IMF? Zionist Rothschilds.. 

 

Research into the 5 sons who went abroad to branch out the rothschild banking firm

 

Nathan - Took control of the Bank of England.

Soloman - Austria, then became leader of the Austria-Hungary Empire (The very people that started world war 1 after the assasination of franz ferdinand)

Amschel - Propelled Germany to financial heights under Bismarck

Carl - Became the most powerful man in Italy after going to Naples

James Jacob - Central bank of paris.

 

By 1850, the rothschild family had more money than every single family in europe combined. 

 

I could sit here all night and reel off the history of their family, you can check all of this, Especially the waterloo market and his exact remarks about controlling our nation.

 

Surely you can not be denying how powerful this family are and how they control our governments through world banking control?

I'm not seeing any evidence that they own the Federal Reserve nor run the IMF.

[cityfanlee23]

I'm not seeing any evidence that they own the Federal Reserve nor run the IMF.

 

Out of all of that you are still trying to deny it, Clearly you missed the point or are being deliberately ignorant to some of the things I said.

You also ignored where I told you to research the house of rothchild. 

Research their family history.

 

Research how they funded world war 2 through their central banking cartel, 

Research The Morgans and Rockefeller family, And you'll be able to work it out yourself, I'm not doing it all for you, if you want to be ignorant to the blatantly obvious, and the history of world banking, I'm okay with that.

 

[Webbo]

Out of all of that you are still trying to deny it, Clearly you missed the point or are being deliberately ignorant to some of the things I said.

You also ignored where I told you to research the house of rothchild. 

Research their family history.

 

Research how they funded world war 2 through their central banking cartel, 

Research The Morgans and Rockefeller family, And you'll be able to work it out yourself, I'm not doing it all for you, if you want to be ignorant to the blatantly obvious, and the history of world banking, I'm okay with that.

Out of all what? There is not a scrap of evidence in what you've written. I can't even see a suggestion that the Rothschilds own the federal reserve or control the IMF.

[Strokes]

Another tread where Lee replies to every post I see, I think I'll give this one a miss.

[cityfanlee23]

Out of all what? There is not a scrap of evidence in what you've written. I can't even see a suggestion that the Rothschilds own the federal reserve or control the IMF.

 

 

As I said, you've clearly not researched it, and I'm not doing it for you.... you've denied the control of the fed reserve and IMF, I cannot be bothered to sit and go through how it works with you, I've given you the means to research history (It's all linked) It takes some working to piece the puzzle, obviously a Zionist organisation is not going to say "Yes we own everything, we control it all" 

 

There are 12 banks just in america that need to be researched, then the European central banks that hold a large voting share in the IMF, look into all past chairs of the IMF and their relation to Zionism and the Rothschild, Rockefeller and Morgan family. 

 

It's pretty simple just takes time to go through it all, I wanted to discuss alternate monetary policy not spend all night putting together a list of evidence for you that proves who these people are, and basically spell it out for you, If you want to ignore it, i'm fine with that. 

This stuff goes back to Waterloo and you're still denying it, so I really cannot be bothered explaining it to you, with all due respect. 

 

Even if you took out the IMF and Federal reserve (To save us both some hassle of getting the research up) how can you deny the control over world banking? I've already given evidence of the 5 sons that set up central banks throughout europe. 

Another tread where Lee replies to every post I see, I think I'll give this one a miss.

 

Another stupid comment from one of the usual suspects I see, Goodbye.