Huge leak exposes elite's tax havens

[Webbo]

Hopefully, I want him gone as quick as possible now, the EU leaflet charade was the last straw for me.

 

He's becoming a liability to the Tories now anyway, sooner we see the back of him and bring in Boris or Gove the better, I hope the backbenchers are learning the lesson from the opposition of what will happen when you leave alone a dead duck as leader.

I think Cameron will be gone by the end of the year, if not by then he'll have announced when he's leaving sometime in 2017. The only thing that can save him is a whopping  big win for remain in the referendum.

[Rincewind]

Well said that woman. Great letter.

 

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/04/12/an-nhs-workers-open-letter-to-the-tory-mp-who-called-people-low-achievers-for-fighting-tax-avoidance/

[Alf Bentley]

Well said that woman. Great letter.

 

http://www.thecanary.co/2016/04/12/an-nhs-workers-open-letter-to-the-tory-mp-who-called-people-low-achievers-for-fighting-tax-avoidance/

 

 

Indeed. An excellent response.

 

Alan Duncan is right to say that people who have made money through business success should not be discouraged from entering parliament. But people who have achieved other things should not be discouraged from entering politics and should not have their contributions devalued either - even if they haven't made a packet of money doing so. They are not low-achievers. Some people achieve a lot without getting wealthy, some get wealthy without achieving much - and others achieve a lot AND get wealthy.

 

If he was defending Cameron, it's a strange defence. His wealth was either inherited or earned through politics, wasn't it? He's not a high-achieving entrepreneur. He dabbled in PR, inherited a shed load of cash and has spent his career in politics - like many at Westminster.

 

Any fair-minded Tory should be seriously embarrassed at this bloke's comments. Wealth isn't a synonym for achievement, even if the two sometimes go hand in hand.

[Steven]

Indeed. An excellent response.

 

Alan Duncan is right to say that people who have made money through business success should not be discouraged from entering parliament. But people who have achieved other things should not be discouraged from entering politics and should not have their contributions devalued either - even if they haven't made a packet of money doing so. They are not low-achievers. Some people achieve a lot without getting wealthy, some get wealthy without achieving much - and others achieve a lot AND get wealthy.

 

If he was defending Cameron, it's a strange defence. His wealth was either inherited or earned through politics, wasn't it? He's not a high-achieving entrepreneur. He dabbled in PR, inherited a shed load of cash and has spent his career in politics - like many at Westminster.

 

Any fair-minded Tory should be seriously embarrassed at this bloke's comments. Wealth isn't a synonym for achievement, even if the two sometimes go hand in hand.

 

Alan Duncan is, was and will always be a cvnt.

[Rincewind]

I am reminded of the sketch the Two Ronnies did with John Cleese (not their show ) 'I know my place'

At the factory I worked there was one bloke who actually was our union rep. He used to love boasting how he met some important person at a rugby match and how his daughter was married to the son of a rich scrap metal dealer. He used to say things like 'Of course you get a better class of person at a rugby match.'

He played bowls for a Blaby club and considered it a high class sport. He only was able to buy his own house because he won a of grand on Spot The Ball otherwise he would have still been living in a council house because he had always done the same job and was basically a shopfloor worker earning the same as the rest of us.

[Darkon84]

I am reminded of the sketch the Two Ronnies did with John Cleese (not their show ) 'I know my place'

At the factory I worked there was one bloke who actually was our union rep. He used to love boasting how he met some important person at a rugby match and how his daughter was married to the son of a rich scrap metal dealer. He used to say things like 'Of course you get a better class of person at a rugby match.'

He played bowls for a Blaby club and considered it a high class sport. He only was able to buy his own house because he won a of grand on Spot The Ball otherwise he would have still been living in a council house because he had always done the same job and was basically a shopfloor worker earning the same as the rest of us.

[Rincewind]

I found this quite amusing. Not sure others will.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/its-obvious-that-jeremy-corbyn-is-the-real-tax-dodger-thats-why-he-paid-more-tax-than-he-owed-a6984411.html

[Guest MattP]

I found this quite amusing. Not sure others will.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/its-obvious-that-jeremy-corbyn-is-the-real-tax-dodger-thats-why-he-paid-more-tax-than-he-owed-a6984411.html

 

It's not really an issue to be honest in terms of money, although it does raise questions about whether a man who can't even fill in a basic tax return on time can run a country.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

It's not really an issue to be honest in terms of money, although it does raise questions about whether a man who can't even fill in a basic tax return on time can run a country.

Does this critiscism extend to people who gets others to do it for them?

[Guest MattP]

Does this critiscism extend to people who gets others to do it for them?

 

No, why would it?

[DJ Barry Hammond]

No, why would it?

Well part of your critiscism is based on the inability to complete a tax return... Yet passing it off to someone else to do for you doesn't show any capability in that area, it just shows you can afford to outsource.

[Sharpe's Fox]

It's not really an issue to be honest in terms of money, although it does raise questions about whether a man who can't even fill in a basic tax return on time can run a country.

 

I repeat that Cameron left his child in a pub when he didn't mean to. Why is it even an issue? People make honest mistakes all the time. I left the cap off my car when refuelling the other day, maybe I should be sectioned and put in a nitwit institution because I'm obviously not capable of functioning in civilised society.

[Guest MattP]

Well part of your critiscism is based on the inability to complete a tax return... Yet passing it off to someone else to do for you doesn't show any capability in that area, it just shows you can afford to outsource.

 

You should have phrashed the question like that then, if Cameron is incapable of filling in a basic tax return then yes he's unfit to run the country. However he and anyone else is perfectly entitled to pay somebody else to do it, a lot of people do.

 

People pay others to do their gardening, park their car, shine their shoes, it doesn't mean they aren't capable of doing it themselves.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

You should have phrashed the question like that then, if Cameron is incapable of filling in a basic tax return then yes he's unfit to run the country. However he and anyone else is perfectly entitled to pay somebody else to do it, a lot of people do.

 

People pay others to do their gardening, park their car, shine their shoes, it doesn't mean they aren't capable of doing it themselves.

Well there you go - be careful with your cheap remarks.

[Guest MattP]

 

I don't get what's cheap about it? We don't have any proof Cameron can't fill out a basic tax return, we just know someone else does it for him? (Do we actually?)

 

What we do know is that Corbyn can't fill one in properly and couldn't get it in on time.

[Rincewind]

Corbyn was late filling it in. Maybe he had other things on his mind like his constituents. It did not mean that he was incapable of doing it. At least his expense claims were not excessive. You cannot criticise him for that surely? Or should he have claimed for everything for you to give him some credit?

[Guest MattP]

Corbyn was late filling it in. Maybe he had other things on his mind like his constituents. It did not mean that he was incapable of doing it. At least his expense claims were not excessive. You cannot criticise him for that surely? Or should he have claimed for everything for you to give him some credit?

 

Then he should get someone else to do it, I find it hard to believe he is bogged down 24/7 with constituents he can't get a tax return done once a year.

 

I've posted this twice before but you ignored it, he is quite happy flying across the World in luxury when it's other countries taxpayers paying for it. - http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1588611.ece

 

THE Labour leadership favourite Jeremy Corbyn, who has boasted that he is a “parsimonious MP” because he claims so little on parliamentary expenses, has been flying around the world and staying in five-star hotels on expenses-paid trips.

Since 2000 the MP for Islington North has accepted free flights to at least 18 destinations, including San Francisco, New York, Canada, Chile and Iran. Taxpayers paid for some of his business-class flights and one trip, to Iran, was part funded by an Iranian-born property investor who has donated to the Tories and Liberal Democrats.

In the last parliament the left-wing MP made taxpayer- funded visits to Mexico, Guatemala and Honduras, flying business class and staying in four and five-star hotels.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

Then he should get someone else to do it, I find it hard to believe he is bogged down 24/7 with constituents he can't get a tax return done once a year.

I've posted this twice before but you ignored it, he is quite happy flying across the World in luxury when it's other countries taxpayers paying for it. - http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1588611.ece

Given the countries mentioned... Isn't those moves sensible?

[Guest MattP]

Given the countries mentioned... Isn't those moves sensible?

 

Why? I thought they were all fantastic socialist paradises that we in the corporate greedy evil west should be aspiring to?

[MC Prussian]

His flights were mostly financed by the Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU) that has been in existence for more than 115 years. All members pay their own share which constitute 80% of their budget, with less developed countries paying a smaller fee. I couldn't find the specific contributions per country on their website, but their total budget is at around 10 million Swiss Francs (roughly £7.3m). Use 80% or 8 million Swiss Francs, divided by a total of 182 members (full and associated). On average, that's 44'000 Swiss Francs or £32'000 per year (£2'700 per month) and member. The rest (20% of the budget) is made up by voluntary donations and other income.