Why England are so poor - a massive rant

[WinslowFox]

My thoughts on it

Be great to get some feedback

[Finnegan]

BECAUSE YOU DIDNT PICK HAL ROBSON-KANU WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE

[Winchesterfox]

Just seen the ticket prices for England v Scotland at Wembley next month.  £60 for an adult and £50 for a child.  That's the official price, not touts 

[Darkon84]

8 minutes ago, Winchesterfox said:

Just seen the ticket prices for England v Scotland at Wembley next month.  £60 for an adult and £50 for a child.  That's the official price, not touts 

Or, instead of being sensationalist, you can get single tickets for as little as £35, or £20 for adults and £10 for kids in the family enclosure.

 

EDIT: £65 is still bloody ridiculous though.

[Detroit Blues]

No country gets less out of their players at the international level than England. 

 

 

 

    

 

 

[Winchesterfox]

3 hours ago, Darkon84 said:

Or, instead of being sensationalist, you can get single tickets for as little as £35, or £20 for adults and £10 for kids in the family enclosure.

 

EDIT: £65 is still bloody ridiculous though.

Fair point, although I couldn't see enough cheap seats when I was looking.  Maybe people who paid for membership got them.  Either way, it's sold out, so I guess they will say they got the pricing right.  

[fuchsntf]

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 21:13, m4DD0gg said:

 

What did he ever do for england...oh yeh feck all. 

 

England are an abomination but it makes me laugh when ex players like him come out giving it some when they were equally as gash.

He played at the highest standard, and like football forum users, has just much the right and probably more than people Who  post  on here.,

Ex-players do see and understand  the ins n outs, better, but doesnt mean they are better analysts, or critics of the game....than anyone,

Thats why it really is the game for the masses..!!!

 

PLAYERS like Carrargher WHo  reached an high level within his chosen career , not WClass, no England legend, but carries

the achievements on taking Some great trophies Home..

He doesnt deserve to be jizzed off by any normal joes on any forum.

 

[Wymsey]

Put the talented youngsters in who lack some game time, and get rid of the 'servants' who don't push themselves to their maximum.

[fuchsntf]

4 hours ago, Detroit Blues said:

No country gets less out of their players at the international level than England. 

 

 

 

    

 

 

We get out of the players the most we can, you, I and every fan in history done the very English thing...Of over-rating ourselves

and under-rating  the  others. We avg between  2nd to 3rd level, sufferering occasionally with implosions on cosmetic

Levels. We find WClass players, or groups of, but they peak, before and not during tournaments.

 

Lets not forget we criticise, some of our top 4-5 teams for bottling the title, and they do usually have our best players.

Many managers have found that magic of a system, but is blown apart often by injuries , or of late, changing just before

or during the major tournaments.Its history itself that shows neither chosen players, nor coaches can get themselves

to consistently hold on to any system let alone an English style plan.That is IMO more the Players  fault, good

Internationals have been chosen and play consistently, are expected to know their own game and Mesh quicker

Into tactics and Shared Team plans, using mostly their own Individual  skills, not those that are strange to them.

Sven ,Cappello , Venables, Robson, tried to instill exactly that with international nous, we still fell short.

Hodgson started right and found good pairings, I actuall think the injuries to his wanted players, ju s t got to him

and he imploded, and lost any idea of innovation, and the simple plan B Mentality.

 

We need a manager and coaches, that can get the players to believe the English way, and its not wrong

to move quickly, and drive forward..like they do in the PL. Oh and ffs they should

stop passing backwards and across,

use their i ndividual given skills. Or grt off the pitch and never mention again   you are an Int. profi footballer..

[Dan]

Why England are so poor, the main reason? They are incapable of either identifying where they go wrong, or changing things once they have.

[fazzyfox]

I think if anything they are over- coached to the point where their ability to be spontaneous and reactive is drilled out of them. Taking two or three touches before moving the ball on, side ways and backwards passing, trying to pass their way through, how many times did anyone actually take on an oponent and try to beat them on the edge of the box in our recent bore fests? Rashford and Townshend perhaps but not enough of trying to force the issue, the worst that can happen is we lose the ball high up the pitch, sometimes we'll be in on goal, other times we'll draw a foul. The way they fail to utilise Vardy when he plays because putting a ball into space rather than to feet is against the years of F.A. Coaching they've had and when they do try it it's over or under hit due to the discomfort of the unnatural process of playing such a ball. His off the cuff approach goes against the F.A. coaching, after all he hadn't had it until now as obviously he missed those years of under 18 and under 21 call ups (thankfully for us)

 

We need to do what we're good at, utilise what we have which as far as I can see is pace. Form pending, Vardy, Sterling, Rashford, Welbeck, Townshend, Walcott, Barkley are all capable of playing at a pace which no opponent likes to face and the likes of Alli and Drinky have the craft to thread through balls but instead we're still watching Rooney slowing things down, taking several touches then passing it sideways or backwards as the opposition file back into position.

 

In short, focus on what we're good at and become something other sides can't cope with.

 

[GaelicFox]

Think the poverty in the north of England is shocking , 6 of the top places in Europe to suffer deprivation are in the north 

[yorkie1999]