Dan Posted 7 July 2016 Posted 7 July 2016 forgot rose had been at leeds, i agree, we just buy ready made products from anywhere, but if we do produce anything, we turn them into a star overnight. Have to disagree on van gaal, i think his hand was forced by injuries. But overall Man Utd maybe up there as the club who has produced more players that have had good/steady careers in the top flight. I think man city are up there as leaders in players who are still in the game, albeit L1/2 etc, but again, they brought Hart, after that, who have they had really, we suck these kids in way to early now, show them the money and lifestyle, they get attitude and then we spit them out again. Correct on the first point. One good season and you're a star, and untouchable in a national team set up. It kind of proves our level of desperation if anything. If Dele Alli was German they would see him as a promising midfielder to keep an eye on but nothing more yet. England see him as the future already. He was forced by injury but I seem to remember Tyler Blackett getting ripped to pieces when we beat them 5-3 and that wasn't injury - that was Van Gaal giving him a chance. Man Utd v Swansea, LVG's first ever game at Man Utd, started Blackett & Lingard, had Amos, Keane and James on the bench. It's not the class of 92 but it's a lot more than most others can claim to have done. Man City have done little. I hardly see a single English youngster get a game for them. What have they done with Patrick Roberts? He looked a real prospect a year ago and now the majority of people will think "oh yeah I forgot about him" when they read his name. That Brandon Barker as well is supposed to be good but I've seen nothing of him other than the Chelsea drubbing in the cup. It could change under Guardiola, mind, he's always been a very big advocate of it.
Lcfc_lass10 Posted 8 July 2016 Posted 8 July 2016 We all knew Pearson would come back to us for something.
ramadaone Posted 8 July 2016 Posted 8 July 2016 Who is the last player they could really claim to have made, they just scour europe taking kids from france and spain and the english players they normally take as soon as they have played 12 games for someone else. Our system and track record isn't great but, spurs, have kane and rose, everyone else seems to leave and end up at hull or somewhere, ok you could argue that they are still making a living in the top flight, but we have had a few, stearman, mattock, moore, chilwell. It seems attitude or bad choices, have been the down fall rather than talent. Kingy and jeff have done ok, although we did pick them up after others had let them go. Maxi Gradel, had to leave, but he's made the grade. How many players have Man Utd actually brought through in recent years, they got lucky with having Beckham, Butt, Scholes, The nevilles all come through at one time, I think people get carried away with that, brown, o'shea etc, all had to move on, because they weren't top draw. Liverpool, owen, gerrard, carragher? for me, what is wrong in this country is we over hype and over pay anyone who looks half decent and then look what happens at international level we are not miles behind because of ability, it's the attitude. I know of some seriously talent kids around the area I live, but they are just that kids, who knows if they will make the grade. One thing that does concern me, is I know for a fact, Forest and Derby seem a lot more pro-active in scouting these lads and taking them for trails. practice matches etc, they seem much better at looking after the kids as well. Keeping in contact, managing injuries etc. I know of lads, from round here as well, travelling down for development games, V west ham and chelsea's academy lads, so they can get a look at them, yet not a sniff of interest from Leicester at times. Sorry if I've gone off on a tangent here Are you suggesting that we are losing loads of local lads that make professionals to Forest , Derby , West Ham and Chelsea ? Because if you are I'd like you to state a few names please
ealingfox Posted 8 July 2016 Posted 8 July 2016 Barca won the CL in 2009 with 10 academy products in their starting 18 in the final so until we do something similar our Academy is not good enough imo
Bayfox Posted 8 July 2016 Posted 8 July 2016 Are you suggesting that we are losing loads of local lads that make professionals to Forest , Derby , West Ham and Chelsea ? Because if you are I'd like you to state a few names please Yeah i'm not sure sticking young lads names on a internet forum is the best idea I've ever had, but I have 2 mates who's boys are both currently training with Florist and are big city fans and would jump at the chance. And 1 mate who's boy has been signed up by Derby on good terms at 8 years old. Who's whole family are City mad, he's also been to games, to be looked at by london clubs yes.
ramadaone Posted 8 July 2016 Posted 8 July 2016 Yeah i'm not sure sticking young lads names on a internet forum is the best idea I've ever had, but I have 2 mates who's boys are both currently training with Florist and are big city fans and would jump at the chance. And 1 mate who's boy has been signed up by Derby on good terms at 8 years old. Who's whole family are City mad, he's also been to games, to be looked at by london clubs yes. Fair point about names Only training with Forest who are not even Cat 1 means very little but they would certainly have been watched by an LCFC Scout at some point Derby lad I'm guessing comes from Ibstock ? PM if you want to discuss further
LCFC FOX Posted 8 July 2016 Posted 8 July 2016 Fair point about names Only training with Forest who are not even Cat 1 means very little but they would certainly have been watched by an LCFC Scout at some point Derby lad I'm guessing comes from Ibstock ? PM if you want to discuss further are you a scout for lcfc?
Bayfox Posted 8 July 2016 Posted 8 July 2016 Fair point about names Only training with Forest who are not even Cat 1 means very little but they would certainly have been watched by an LCFC Scout at some point Derby lad I'm guessing comes from Ibstock ? PM if you want to discuss further No mate. All from Syston and Goscote way. Play for quorn and Syston.
GaelicFox Posted 9 July 2016 Posted 9 July 2016 No mate. All from Syston and Goscote way. Play for quorn and Syston. I know a city lad , born and bred in the city and represented his country at underage is at derby , they also have a kid from Harborough up there who is classy , they seem very active in the area Derby
Lcfcwigstonblue Posted 11 July 2016 Posted 11 July 2016 My cousin is a first year pro at Derby he has been at Derby since he was 8, I'm sure he would have preferred to be at his hometown club.
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