AjcW Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 I begged people on here to give Claudio a chance when he joined, wrote a huge post to just try and remind people of the manager he was and not just the Greek episode. When we won the league I asked people to eat their words, and to a man they did. Thats been flipped now and I've been challenged to question whether Claudio was holding the players back by being too defensive. If the performance I saw tonight continues then I will 100% do that, as I hope others will. If it turns out that those players were told to sit back more and be more cautious then the owners decision will be 100% justified. So it might just be that as sad as it was and as much as I wish he'd retired last season on a high.... this whole situation might just be for the greater good ? But all in all let's find a balance, it's not difficult to have respect for someone whether you believe they're to blame or not, so let's move on, thank Claudio as all the fans did tonight in a fantastic way, and get back to doing what we do best, SUPPORTING THE CHAMPIONS OF ENGLAND AND HAVING THE BEST FORUM IN THE COUNTRY!! See you all on Saturday, I, like the players, got that fire back tonight and I can't wait for Hull!
Stadt Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 I think the players were probably fed up of extra training, flipping between stubbornness and inane tinkering, bewildering team selections and changes to the back room staff. The players aren't blameless but Claudio was credited with not changing much as tempting as it could be but this season it seems as if he tried to implement more of his own ideas on how the team should operate and it's alienated the players. They weren't playing deliberately poorly or anything but it's hard to be motivated by someone who you increasingly disagree with. (mostly conjecture).
TheUltimateWinner Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 5 minutes ago, AjcW said: I begged people on here to give Claudio a chance when he joined, wrote a huge post to just try and remind people of the manager he was and not just the Greek episode. When we won the league I asked people to eat their words, and to a man they did. Thats been flipped now and I've been challenged to question whether Claudio was holding the players back by being too defensive. If the performance I saw tonight continues then I will 100% do that, as I hope others will. If it turns out that those players were told to sit back more and be more cautious then the owners decision will be 100% justified. So it might just be that as sad as it was and as much as I wish he'd retired last season on a high.... this whole situation might just be for the greater good ? But all in all let's find a balance, it's not difficult to have respect for someone whether you believe they're to blame or not, so let's move on, thank Claudio as all the fans did tonight in a fantastic way, and get back to doing what we do best, SUPPORTING THE CHAMPIONS OF ENGLAND AND HAVING THE BEST FORUM IN THE COUNTRY!! See you all on Saturday, I, like the players, got that fire back tonight and I can't wait for Hull! Great post
EGBFitness Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Everyone respects Ranieri and was obviously hard to see him go but the time was needed. I dont think he lost respect from the players but I think their was a lot disharmony within the group and staff caused by Ranieri. I think he wanted to put his own stamp on things but never worked for him, tonight we played to our strengths and the performance/result shown all what we know this team can achieve.
Swarles Barkley Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 8 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: My mind went straight to this as well
yorkie1999 Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 Should have offered him a directorship, face of Leicester and all that pr stuff.
VLC86 Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 1 hour ago, Sharpe's Fox said: An hour too late, fuming.
urban.spaceman Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 1 hour ago, Wookie said: I think the players were probably fed up of extra training, flipping between stubbornness and inane tinkering, bewildering team selections and changes to the back room staff. The players aren't blameless but Claudio was credited with not changing much as tempting as it could be but this season it seems as if he tried to implement more of his own ideas on how the team should operate and it's alienated the players. They weren't playing deliberately poorly or anything but it's hard to be motivated by someone who you increasingly disagree with. (mostly conjecture). This is basically everything.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Well this is it. The players have (rightly so) taken a lot of flack but the way Claudio got off Scott free at times was unfair. This season has been diabolical and while I wanted to sit here and say hey we are 10th-12th and Claudio should be here for another 10 years. The truth is, if he was, we'd fall further down the league. The greater good is always what's best for Leicester City. Like anything else in life, that's the strive to be better than where you currently are. You may not get there but the moment you stop trying, is when you wrap it up and go into the light. No one, should be that big, that the possibility of that should become a reality. Claudio leaving was best for this club because it was not working anymore and was getting considerably worse. I wil admit, towards the end I was forming a distaste for his management, his interviews and what I perceived as belittling of our club. That was wrong of me but I will always stand by it that in the last few months, he was not right for this club. Claudio, thank you for what you did but thank you to the owners for realising that Leicester needed a change.
Bunyip Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 2 hours ago, AjcW said: I begged people on here to give Claudio a chance when he joined, wrote a huge post to just try and remind people of the manager he was and not just the Greek episode. When we won the league I asked people to eat their words, and to a man they did. Thats been flipped now and I've been challenged to question whether Claudio was holding the players back by being too defensive. If the performance I saw tonight continues then I will 100% do that, as I hope others will. If it turns out that those players were told to sit back more and be more cautious then the owners decision will be 100% justified. So it might just be that as sad as it was and as much as I wish he'd retired last season on a high.... this whole situation might just be for the greater good ? But all in all let's find a balance, it's not difficult to have respect for someone whether you believe they're to blame or not, so let's move on, thank Claudio as all the fans did tonight in a fantastic way, and get back to doing what we do best, SUPPORTING THE CHAMPIONS OF ENGLAND AND HAVING THE BEST FORUM IN THE COUNTRY!! See you all on Saturday, I, like the players, got that fire back tonight and I can't wait for Hull! Does the word " Fickle " mean anything to you ?
foxes_rule1978 Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Claudio didn't understand the players... last season even Ranieri himself admitted to just doing what they and his staff wanted, this season he tried to install all his own style, and wasn't listening to those around him. I love the guy no doubt but don't throw everything out that actually allowed us to do the impossible. We need to be defending from the front and pressurising teams throughout...
AjcW Posted 28 February 2017 Author Posted 28 February 2017 5 hours ago, Bunyip said: Does the word " Fickle " mean anything to you ? Of course, it's almost a legal requirement of being a football fan
Semper Eadem Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 A great performance , a great result and importantly positive signs that the players have rediscovered their winning desire but still a bitter taste. Did Claudio really prevent the players from pressing? Did he order them to shirk 50/50 balls? Were they instructed to look disinterested? Did he say whatever you do don't track back? Were they told under no circumstances show any passion? Were they led to believe that there was no sense of urgency and everything was fine? I guess we will never know and in many ways it does not matter as the Club is rightly bigger than any individual, whether coach , manager or player. The only people who really know what went on are the players and the key support staff - they know how much or little they did to contribute to Ranieri's demise or, perhaps more importantly, how much they did to prevent it . 'The king is indeed dead, long live the king' - let's hope that 'uneasy lies the head which wears the crown' does not apply!
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