General Election, June 8th

[Sharpe's Fox]

4 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

Only if she then burnt the proceeds I suspect.

better to have banked cash in that situation than have it tied up in bricks and mortar.

[Rincewind]

This is an interesting interview. Thought JC came across as natural. Although I have always been sceptical about politicians.  I have friends that have met him without cameras and they have said the same. I reserve judgement. I either go along with the media reports about him or people that have met him. Tough one.

 

 

[ajthefox]

Corbyn is everything hamface wanted people to think he was when he said call me Dave. Alas, Cameron never was and never will be a man of the people and Corbyn will never be the PM, just the leader of an opposition which is at odds with itself and does not seem all that credible despite some interesting ideas.

[purpleronnie]

Quite an extraordinary Manifesto from the Tories, who'd of thought Labour would explain their fiscal policy better than the Tories?.

 

And Tory's attacking their own with the OAP's care bill....I guess when you are so far ahead in the Poll's you can just about do anything.

 

And as for their ridiculous Immigration pledge..well so much for an outward looking global country then Mrs May....no wonder she ran away from the TV debate.

 

[Guest Kopfkino]

Angela Rayner is actually awful. Idk how she got selected to run to be MP, what a state the shadow cabinet is

[Jon the Hat]

21 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

better to have banked cash in that situation than have it tied up in bricks and mortar.

Not sure on that, if you have cash you pay your own costs until you last £100k

[Guest Dirkster the Fox]

Three facts today are:

 

1) we are living longer and longer. Death for us all is getter later in life (average)

2) the deficit still sits at £50+billion and that's with the highest employment rate for 42 years. The deficit is not likely to drop into a positive for years whichever way your vote swings. More debt as each year passes.

3) social care for the elderly is a rapidly increasing cost burden on the country

 

whatever your politics, as part of the economic argument, those three facts means something needs to be done to pay for our own care living longer and longer.  who pays for it? Apart from those without, is it us with an understanding we'll need to accept provision is needed and we give less to our children, or do you expect the state pick up all the tab for everyone as that how's it always been? If it's the latter and this bill gets bigger and bigger where does the money come from?

 

this is a serious issue. Think long term and not just 1 manifesto and 5 years...no money trees or utopia.

 

How? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rincewind]

Another politician who cannot get their figures right. Is 'I do not have the figures with me' a good enough excuse? 

 

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/michael-gove-numbers-hopelessly-wrong/

[Guest Dirkster the Fox]

23 minutes ago, Rincewind said:

This is an interesting interview. Thought JC came across as natural. Although I have always been sceptical about politicians.  I have friends that have met him without cameras and they have said the same. I reserve judgement. I either go along with the media reports about him or people that have met him. Tough one.

 

 

He might be natural, but he's a communist. That's all that matters for 3 weeks time. A communist or a Red Tory?

[Rincewind]

Are you colour blind?

[Jimothy]

Bit rich Priti Patel reiterating what the question was now on QT. A few minutes ago she was asked about how the winter fuel allowance would be means tested as previous governments said doing so would be too much work, her answer was that it would be means tested. ****ing idiot. No wonder people get pissed off with politicians when they answer questions like that.

[Sharpe's Fox]

14 minutes ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

He might be natural, but he's a communist. That's all that matters for 3 weeks time. A communist or a Red Tory?

"Communist" ffs what a child

[DJ Barry Hammond]

5 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Bit rich Priti Patel reiterating what the question was now on QT. A few minutes ago she was asked about how the winter fuel allowance would be means tested as previous governments said doing so would be too much work, her answer was that it would be means tested. ****ing idiot. No wonder people get pissed off with politicians when they answer questions like that.

 

I've had all the politics stuff on tonight, but paid little to no attention to it, as other horrible matters took over. But I'd agree Pretti is rather useless, I'm suprised she's being used on manifesto release day. 

 

One thing I have suddenly wondered... what is it about Corbyn and young student women. He's got loads fawning after him - I want some of that! Is it some sort of 'daddy fetish?'

[DJ Barry Hammond]

15 minutes ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

He might be natural, but he's a communist. That's all that matters for 3 weeks time. A communist or a Red Tory?

If you truly believe he is any sort of communist in the true sense of the word, you might want put some money on him winning because he'd have the backing of a very powerful vote winning machine behind him.

 

[Guest Dirkster the Fox]

Just now, Sharpe's Fox said:

"Communist" ffs what a child

I'm no child. I have an opinion and am sorry you need to say for **** sake what a child.

 

I don't call him a name or bad mouth him, I just believe he is deep down a communist. Enough of what is written, said and seen confirms it is likely.

[Nick]

1 minute ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

 I just believe he is deep down a communist. Enough of what is written, said and seen confirms it is likely.

You are going to need a little more than that buddy - present some evidence....

[Guest Kopfkino]

Fed up of the tuition fee debate. The current system is pretty decent and they shouldn't be scrapped. It's a vanity project

[Webbo]

3 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

You are going to need a little more than that buddy - present some evidence....

He's appointed a self confessed Stalinist as head of his campaign, his chancellor is a self confessed Marxist.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

8 hours ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

A Scottish nationalist, a Welsh nationalist, an English Nationalist, a European Nationalist and a whatever the **** the Green Party is.

 

all walk into a Wetherspoons on a Thursday night and go to the bar; 

 

The Welsh nationalist decrees she'll have a pint of Deli Rouge, a fine product with roots from her homeland.

 

The European nationalist compliments the barman on a varied selection of European larger and decides they best have one of those before the prices rise further.

 

The Scottish Nationalist makes some sort of racket that turns out to be a request for an Iron Bru. She also confirms she ain't doing rounds (tight arse!)

 

The Green Party duo ask lots of questions about the origin of the drinks on offer, only to then lecture the barman on how bad the mass production methods are for Mother Earth and plump for free tap water as their drink of choice. 

 

It then turn to Paul Nuttall to pick a drink and inspired by the rest of his group decides to go for something that suits his nationalist own mood...  "I'll have the Lamb Rogan Josh and a pint of Kingfisher please".

 

Hmmmmm... yeah not sure why I bothered ? 

[Guest Dirkster the Fox]

Just now, Swan Lesta said:

You are going to need a little more than that buddy - present some evidence....

So you want me to be copying and pasting opinions, quotes, videos and other material at 23.50 a night on a football forum? Lol. I'll have my opinion, you can have yours. 

 

Mine is he's deep down a communist and ultimately not a natural fit for this country. Labour are not currently traditional Labour and the country is the worse for it. A manifesto giving everything away to people literally hammering the rich/business and nationalising new things as each day passes.....is a path to communism. A path he wishes to travel on.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

4 minutes ago, KingGTF said:

Fed up of the tuition fee debate. The current system is pretty decent and they shouldn't be scrapped. It's a vanity project

 

Scrap tuition fees for public sector professions - so teachers, doctors, nurses etc.

[Guest Dirkster the Fox]

1 minute ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

Scrap tuition fees for public sector professions - so teachers, doctors, nurses etc.

Even though in essence I agree with tuition fees, I also agree with the principle of your point. Not an exact solution, but I like the way it could preserve the flow of quality into these professions. Something to debate more I guess?

[Nick]

5 minutes ago, Webbo said:

He's appointed a self confessed Stalinist as head of his campaign, his chancellor is a self confessed Marxist.

Well Stalinism for a start is closer to fascism than Marxism....

 

4 minutes ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

So you want me to be copying and pasting opinions, quotes, videos and other material at 23.50 a night on a football forum? Lol. I'll have my opinion, you can have yours. 

 

Mine is he's deep down a communist and ultimately not a natural fit for this country. Labour are not currently traditional Labour and the country is the worse for it. A manifesto giving everything away to people literally hammering the rich/business and nationalising new things as each day passes.....is a path to communism. A path he wishes to travel on.

I'm simply saying you need to back up your statements Theresa May I believe is a vampire but until she's caught hanging upside down and dining out on virgin necks I reckon I'll get called on it.

[Strokes]

9 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

Scrap tuition fees for public sector professions - so teachers, doctors, nurses etc.

Or raise the threshold in which it becomes a debt, say £80,000.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

1 minute ago, Dirkster the Fox said:

Even though in essence I agree with tuition fees, I also agree with the principle of your point. Not an exact solution, but I like the way it could preserve the flow of quality into these professions. Something to debate more I guess?

 

You know the other question with tutuion fees is to consider the chances of the money being paid back and interest. 

 

* I'm not sure interest should be charged

* The repayment rare and level isn't great... so in a way what's the point? 

* Couldn't the government provide a tax efficient product that parents / grandparents can pay into specifically towards a kids tuition fees when they're born - the government can use the proceeds it earns to provide more burseies to underprivileged kids who could otherwise not go to university. 

 

My understanding is Universities want to charge more still!