Owners into UK Horse Racing now

[Nickfosse]

1 hour ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

Consider the track record of these guys... they'll want this to be a successful venture, they don't do failure. 

Yeah, I think you're right moving forward. I just think the bulk buying of Ascot runners on the eve of the meet was more a way of being part of it all. 

I'd recommend a trip to Aiden O'Brien's stables. He seems to win everything. ?

Edited 23 June 2017 by Nickfosse

[DJ Barry Hammond]

 

https://www.racingpost.com/profile/owner/249481/abudiencia-co-ltd/horses

 

Chai Chai runs in the 7:35 at Haydock tomorrow. 

 

Currently priced 4-1, having its second run in what looks a competitive novice stakes (some interesting newcomers in it). It's probably a race to watch than bet on, because there be some future winners in it.

[Kitchandro]

Funny how the colours are blue and white but they insist on blue and gold for us

[DJ Barry Hammond]

2 minutes ago, Kitchandro said:

Funny how the colours are blue and white but they insist on blue and gold for us

Under BHA regulations there are only 18 set colours to choose from, but you can have any of these colours in any of the body, sleeve and cap designs listed below.

 

Gold isn't one of them!

[DJ Barry Hammond]

http://www.britishhorseracing.com/resource-centre/ownership/racing-colours/

 

i was mean... should have added the link so you can mock up your own silks for when that lottery win comes in.

[GaelicFox]

From Twitter 

 

I love the internet  

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, Nickfosse said:

Yeah, I think you're right moving forward. I just think the bulk buying of Ascot runners on the eve of the meet was more a way of being part of it all. 

I'd recommend a trip to Vincent O'Brien's stables. He seems to win everything. ?

It's aiden. Vincent (no relation) must have gone to meet his maker some time ago. 

[Nickfosse]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

It's aiden. Vincent (no relation) must have gone to meet his maker some time ago. 

Haha, of course you're right. ?

early age dementia setting in?

Edited 23 June 2017 by Nickfosse

[SouthStandUpperTier]

maybe there's a Robert hoof out there somewhere 

Sean ST. LEDGER!

Can't believe you guys missed that one. Sloppy.

[Kitchandro]

17 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

http://www.britishhorseracing.com/resource-centre/ownership/racing-colours/

 

i was mean... should have added the link so you can mock up your own silks for when that lottery win comes in.

Mate I am well ahead of you. A man can dream.

[brucey]

I know nothing about horse racing, but how is it that they've lost 2m? Surely the horses still hold a decent proportion of their value after finishing 'mid-table'?

[GaelicFox]

4 minutes ago, brucey said:

I know nothing about horse racing, but how is it that they've lost 2m? Surely the horses still hold a decent proportion of their value after finishing 'mid-table'?

If they went back in a sale next week probably be lucky to recoup 500-700 !!! 

 

£2.5-3m was probably the purchase figure including Vat and commissions 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

5 minutes ago, GaelicFox said:

If they went back in a sale next week probably be lucky to recoup 500-700 !!! 

 

£2.5-3m was probably the purchase figure including Vat and commissions 

 

Yeah, but sooner or later they'll get it right and have a nice batch of 2 year olds. Be interesting to see how tomorrow's runner goes.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

[Babylon]

16 minutes ago, brucey said:

I know nothing about horse racing, but how is it that they've lost 2m? Surely the horses still hold a decent proportion of their value after finishing 'mid-table'?

They haven't it's just morons on twitter. A bit like prats with players on here they write off a horse on its first outing rather than seeing how they get on with their new trainers and jockey etc.

[GaelicFox]

11 minutes ago, Babylon said:

They haven't it's just morons on twitter. A bit like prats with players on here they write off a horse on its first outing rather than seeing how they get on with their new trainers and jockey etc.

It was none of their first outings  

 

 none of them were worth 50% of what was paid ... all over priced donkeys !!! Look at some of their original purchase prices  

 

And there is slightly worrying pattern between horse deals like this and some of our record spending recently .... 

 

Islam , Musa and   Kramaric 

 

too much money for fairly average players 

 

but it's their money ... long may they enjoy it 

 

I just hope they get a better director of football and bloodstock manager ... SOON ! 

 

And it does remind me of this sketch !!!!! Posted above ! 

 

 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

They'll get better with more experience. But they'll drop a few clangers initially, just like they did with City (binning Pearson the first time, hiring Sousa, Sven).

 

 

[GaelicFox]

7 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

They'll get better with more experience. But they'll drop a few clangers initially, just like they did with City (binning Pearson the first time, hiring Sousa, Sven).

 

 

Could be argued that Claudio was a huge stroke of luck ..... 

 

if year one was like year two for Claudio the clangers would still be going on 

[st albans fox]

8 hours ago, brucey said:

I know nothing about horse racing, but how is it that they've lost 2m? Surely the horses still hold a decent proportion of their value after finishing 'mid-table'?

Without looking into too much detail I believe they have bought mainly mares at this sale which means they are looking to breed from them. This is a long term investment with a bit of fun at the start re ascot entries. 

 

EDIT: the three ascot purchases were for 1.2 m and included one mare ( looks a good prospect for breeding from), one colt (which is a decent quality animal and could well earn his fee back over time and potentially go to stud)  and one gelding which does surprise me a little as can only earn his corn by winning races and he will need to improve a fair bit to manage that over the next few campaigns. a gelding will generally be kept racing for many years so perhaps they wanted a horse they could become attached to over the next few years on the track.

 

they have invested in a decent broodmare separately. 

 

this looks like it has been done fairly strategically to give them fun now and investment for the future. 

Edited 24 June 2017 by st albans fox

[Babylon]

7 hours ago, GaelicFox said:

It was none of their first outings  

 

It's their first outing for them, the horses probably haven't even step foot in their yard yet. Let's see what happens long term in terms of breeding etc before declaring someone has lost £2m on the back of a single race for each horse.

Edited 24 June 2017 by Babylon

[GaelicFox]

1 hour ago, Babylon said:

It's their first outing for them, the horses probably haven't even step foot in their yard yet. Let's see what happens long term in terms of breeding etc before declaring someone has lost £2m on the back of a single race for each horse.

They haven't got a racing yard  

 

breeding ? most are gelded or will be .. none will ever be a stallion ... ever 

 

for once Babylon it's a subject you know little about and that's not me being patronising that's just looking at your answers 

 

long term I'll wager these horses will all be sold over next 2-3 years and they will recoup 5-10% of the outlay maybe less 

 

they really have made a shocking start to racing .. and that will hurt they have spent 5m im told and won £25,000  and virtually devalued every horse 

 

they need a better bloodstock advisor 

 

and they need a better Director of Football 

 

there is a direct link here  

[st albans fox]

11 minutes ago, GaelicFox said:

They haven't got a racing yard  

 

breeding ? most are gelded or will be .. none will ever be a stallion ... ever 

 

for once Babylon it's a subject you know little about and that's not me being patronising that's just looking at your answers 

 

long term I'll wager these horses will all be sold over next 2-3 years and they will recoup 5-10% of the outlay maybe less 

 

they really have made a shocking start to racing .. and that will hurt they have spent 5m im told and won £25,000  and virtually devalued every horse 

 

they need a better bloodstock advisor 

 

and they need a better Director of Football 

 

there is a direct link here  

 

Racing yard : they have already stated they will place all their horses with Andrew balding

 

Breeding: read the racing post article. They already bought an in foal mare who has an existing foal in tow. 

 

The three horses purchased for ascot were overpaid for but they have an interesting decent three y o colt who has been placed in group company and a potential brrodmare. The gelding, as I said may well be just for some fun at a decent standard. 

 

im not arguing that they may have over spent (where did 5m come from????) but your overall post is fairly patronising. 

[Guest MattP]

10 hours ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

Yeah, but sooner or later they'll get it right and have a nice batch of 2 year olds. Be interesting to see how tomorrow's runner goes.

No guarantee of that at all, even some of the most knowledgeable people with connections to stables like Godolphin have struggled to make a profit and maintain a top batch of horses.

 

Coolmore and Aiden have the flat in these Isles almost tied up anyway, they are bonkers to get involved imho.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

17 minutes ago, MattP said:

No guarantee of that at all, even some of the most knowledgeable people with connections to stables like Godolphin have struggled to make a profit and maintain a top batch of horses.

 

Coolmore and Aiden have the flat in these Isles almost tied up anyway, they are bonkers to get involved imho.

 

True that there's no guarantees, but they have the money and mindset to make a success of it if they want. I imagine the Polo background will help as well, because they'll know what a horse looks like! 

 

Going with Andrew Balding as a starting point looks a shrewd early move and I notice they have a few horses in Irish stables as well, suggesting this isn't a passing fancy. Clearly they won't be troubling the likes of Coolmore yet, but if they get some nice horses just below top class level there's plenty of opportunity to farm some of the bigger handicaps or less prestigious listed races.

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

 

Racing yard : they have already stated they will place all their horses with Andrew balding

 

Breeding: read the racing post article. They already bought an in foal mare who has an existing foal in tow. 

 

The three horses purchased for ascot were overpaid for but they have an interesting decent three y o colt who has been placed in group company and a potential brrodmare. The gelding, as I said may well be just for some fun at a decent standard. 

 

im not arguing that they may have over spent (where did 5m come from????) but your overall post is fairly patronising. 

Seems like someone else did some research before commentary unlike Gaelic.