Strokes Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 14 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: Did anyone hear that MP Matt Hancock has released an app (“how do you do, fellow kids”)? Well it’s not going well. How do you do, fellow kids? Is that a title to bring the attention of yew tree?
Rogstanley Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 My negative correlation with height is in proportion to the age of my constituents - a Tory twat 1
Sharpe's Fox Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 20 minutes ago, Strokes said: How do you do, fellow kids? Is that a title to bring the attention of yew tree? It’s a meme mate.
Strokes Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 15 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: It’s a meme mate. Sorry I didn’t know that one.
Buce Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 (edited) Strokes, your change of avatar is most disconcerting. Edited 1 February 2018 by Buce
Strokes Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 1 hour ago, foxinexile said: I mentioned it a while ago, that whilst waiting to be served at a bar in Leeds, I got told to "**** off back to Poland" (despite actually being born in Leicester!). This happened in August 2016, just after the referendum. The guy who said that was being pretty racist in my opinion (and being a ****!). But to assume he voted Leave (let alone having enough brain cells to vote in the first place) would have been the completely wrong assumption to make. Jo Cox's killer was not a Leave supporter, he was a deranged lunatic; "hate crimes" after the referendum weren't committed by Leave voters, they were done by opportunistic scum. From the people I've ever talked to about their vote, many reasons have been mentioned, but very few raised immigration as a reason though. Ironically, Theresa May seems to be driving the issue of immigration the most (keeping good company with Farage!), and trying to attach it to the "will" of the British people, whilst clearly doing it to placate members of her own party. But even as the most ardent europhile I know, even I can see very clearly that Brexit was not a racist vote. And to assume or to believe so takes us, as a country, into dangerous territory. I'd hope Remain voters would make this clear in their opposition to Brexit. Sadly, it doesn't seem to be the case as often as it should. I think the big problem lies in opposition to freedom of movement is not opposition to immigration per se or even immigrants. But it’s such a touchy subject, it’s hard to discuss without the two getting clouded. I think think the most dangerous thing about the referendum is that it has been so divided and created such a heated debate that no two sides are really going to be happy with any result that isn’t absolutely all their way. As any inch given will be felt like a defeat, how do you unite the country when the division is so vast? 1
Strokes Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 8 minutes ago, Buce said: Strokes, your change of avatar is most disconcerting. Cmon, it’s Mr Poopybutthole.
Webbo Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 52 minutes ago, Rogstanley said: All the surveys pointed to immigration being the most important factor among leave voters. When pushed, many leavers who claim to have voted based on other reasons seem to have a very poor understanding of their own argument. For example, many leavers who claimed that escaping EU law was important to them can’t describe the function of even one EU law and certainly can’t come up with a list of EU laws they don’t like. It’s definitely wrong to say all leavers are racist but to pretend there isn’t a lot of racism in their ranks in naive, and I suspect a degree of xenophobia is fairly common while prejudice based on culture and feelings of cultural superiority is endemic. Well that's a lie, sovereignty was the most important factor. https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/
Rogstanley Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 5 minutes ago, Webbo said: Well that's a lie, sovereignty was the most important factor. https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/ Oh right, not all of them then. Immigration was 2nd in that one.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 1 February 2018 Author Posted 1 February 2018 1 hour ago, Sharpe's Fox said: Did anyone hear that MP Matt Hancock has released an app (“how do you do, fellow kids”)? Well it’s not going well. Yep and it’s been downloaded! Just came into here to post about it myself. It’s brilliant! Bet get on quick, because I give it about a week!
Strokes Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 3 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Yep and it’s been downloaded! Just came into here to post about it myself. It’s brilliant! Bet get on quick, because I give it about a week! What is it?
Guest Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 11 minutes ago, Buce said: Strokes, your change of avatar is most disconcerting. Agreed.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 1 February 2018 Author Posted 1 February 2018 1 minute ago, Strokes said: What is it? Its an app, completely dedicated to everyone’s favourite West Suffolk MP; Matt Hancock! Do you like pictures of Matt? Do you like video’s of Matt? Do you like to read about Matt? Of course you do! So this is THE app for you! Styled as a mix between Twitter and Facebook, the Matt Hancock App is the future. Get involved... NOW! 2
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 1 February 2018 Author Posted 1 February 2018 But seriously it’s worth t just to see the cringeworthy opening video... and the many, many, piss take comments from users... ... and because it’s notifications start with ‘Matt Hancock’ so for example you get ‘Matt Hancock wants to know your location”.
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 1 February 2018 Author Posted 1 February 2018 Right - back to Matt chat - this place is dead to me now. post your usernames in case I check back. Mines ‘conscientious objector’ By all means friend request me ?
Strokes Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 11 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Right - back to Matt chat - this place is dead to me now. post your usernames in case I check back. Mines ‘conscientious objector’ By all means friend request me ? Matt HandWang 1
Sharpe's Fox Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 10 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Right - back to Matt chat - this place is dead to me now. post your usernames in case I check back. Mines ‘conscientious objector’ By all means friend request me ? On it now here we go
Sharpe's Fox Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 (edited) Hmm sure I agree Edited 1 February 2018 by Sharpe's Fox
foxinexile Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 28 minutes ago, Strokes said: I think the big problem lies in opposition to freedom of movement is not opposition to immigration per se or even immigrants. But it’s such a touchy subject, it’s hard to discuss without the two getting clouded. I think think the most dangerous thing about the referendum is that it has been so divided and created such a heated debate that no two sides are really going to be happy with any result that isn’t absolutely all their way. As any inch given will be felt like a defeat, how do you unite the country when the division is so vast? It's a really good question and I, probably along with everyone else who voted, won't be able to give any answer to it any time ever. I don't know if it's something that can ever be resolved. You could look at it one way and say that given the divisions that have occurred, holding the referendum in the first place was a mistake. And yet on the other hand you could quite rightly argue that people were entitled to make their own choice regarding our future. All opinions aside though, and whichever way we all voted, the end result always has to be that we all have to hope Brexit is a success because it affects all of us. Hopefully that's one thing we can all agree on! 1
Strokes Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 1 minute ago, Sharpe's Fox said: got my profile set up For anyone missing my old avatar, you can find it, along with me on the Matt Hancock app. Bye bye. 1 1 1
foxinexile Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 1 hour ago, Rogstanley said: All the surveys pointed to immigration being the most important factor among leave voters. When pushed, many leavers who claim to have voted based on other reasons seem to have a very poor understanding of their own argument. For example, many leavers who claimed that escaping EU law was important to them can’t describe the function of even one EU law and certainly can’t come up with a list of EU laws they don’t like. It’s definitely wrong to say all leavers are racist but to pretend there isn’t a lot of racism in their ranks in naive, and I suspect a degree of xenophobia is fairly common while prejudice based on culture and feelings of cultural superiority is endemic. Immigration was a factor, agreed, it's just never one that I've heard as the main reason why people voted Leave (I am basing that on a very small number though!). I just think that racism is such a serious issue and it's been diluted so much by people who are happy to stick it on to others just because their opinions don't agree. Take Corbyn for example, one of, if not the, biggest Eurosceptic there is. He's acknowledged that freedom of movement can't continue in its current form when we leave the EU. I'm sure his reasons for voting Leave weren't due to immigration as the main issue, but here he is acknowledging it. And yet ... I don't recall Corbyn ever being called racist, but it's a term that sticks with Farage on a daily basis (and I hold my hands up, I've called him that regarding his views on immigration before). Immigration is always going to be a contentious issue, and similar to what Strokes has said, like the referendum itself it's something that is always going to divide people and I doubt a solution will ever be reached which everyone agrees with. I support freedom of movement, someone else will support limiting immigration to a few thousand per year. We'll never agree yet we both have a right to our opinions. How on earth you solve it though I have no idea!
leicsmac Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 12 minutes ago, foxinexile said: It's a really good question and I, probably along with everyone else who voted, won't be able to give any answer to it any time ever. I don't know if it's something that can ever be resolved. You could look at it one way and say that given the divisions that have occurred, holding the referendum in the first place was a mistake. And yet on the other hand you could quite rightly argue that people were entitled to make their own choice regarding our future. All opinions aside though, and whichever way we all voted, the end result always has to be that we all have to hope Brexit is a success because it affects all of us. Hopefully that's one thing we can all agree on! Pretty much this. A similar division now exists in the US, too - or is certainly more visible than it was.
Buce Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 1 hour ago, Buce said: Strokes, your change of avatar is most disconcerting. 1 hour ago, Strokes said: Cmon, it’s Mr Poopybutthole. 43 minutes ago, toddybad said: Agreed. As an aside, have you any idea who the guy is in my meme?
Strokes Posted 1 February 2018 Posted 1 February 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Buce said: As an aside, have you any idea who the guy is in my meme? Lawrence Fishbourne, as Morpheus in the Matrix. Edited 1 February 2018 by Strokes
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