Guest Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 Private sector property developer says asking the private sector to build social homes is stupid, calls for higher corporation tax and government funded social housing. Social housing funding system is 'nuts', says top property developer https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/may/14/social-housing-funding-system-is-nuts-says-top-property-developer?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard
Innovindil Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 24 minutes ago, toddybad said: Private sector property developer says asking the private sector to build social homes is stupid, calls for higher corporation tax and government funded social housing. Social housing funding system is 'nuts', says top property developer https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/may/14/social-housing-funding-system-is-nuts-says-top-property-developer?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard So do you agree with him or not? Should we be taxing people so the government can build social housing and these private companies can maximise profits?
Guest Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 2 minutes ago, Innovindil said: So do you agree with him or not? Should we be taxing people so the government can build social housing and these private companies can maximise profits? Yes. I don't care what happens in high end housing, I'm do care about normal people having somewhere to live.
Guest Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 Is it offensive to call ruddy-faced middle-aged Tories 'gammons'? The lunch meat has found new life as a political insult – but an increasing number of people have taken issue with it Name: Gammon. Age: 50-plus, broadly speaking. Appearance: Like a nice pub lunch, albeit a really angry pub lunch that won’t shut up about the will of the people. Gammon? Like the meat? Exactly. And also like the skin tone of almost every furious, spittle-mouthed wingnut ever to scream borderline racist nearly-questions at the panel on Question Time. Right, I get it, we’re being pejorative. That’s right. In recent months, the word “gammon” has become a shorthand for middle-aged, right-leaning white men who won’t stop railing against a system they feel is working against them, even though they are ultimately among its greatest beneficiaries. I know exactly the sort of people you’re talking about. Sure you do. They voted for Brexit and support the Conservatives even though they harbour a secret fondness for Nigel Farage. They’re into the idea of St George’s Day 5% more than they should be. They drink beer. They smoke. They look – and this is really the key point here – like slabs of greasy gammon shimmering stupidly under a fluorescent light. Call me old-fashioned, but isn’t that needlessly confrontational? Oh great, you’re one of them. One of who? One of the fun-sponges who don’t like it when people make dismissive judgments of strangers based on aspects of their appearance over which they have little to no control. Yes, that’s exactly the sort of person I am. For God’s sake. I’ll just add you to the increasing pile of naysayers who have taken issue with the term, calling it unfair and racist, then. Well, yes, that would be nice. Oh, get a load of you. You still think that the left should be above making the sort of knee-jerk, bullying, generalised stereotypical attacks that have long characterised their opponents on the right, do you? You think we should be held to higher standards, do you? Of course I do. As soon as you call someone “gammon”, you’re shutting down the discussion in an overtly unhelpful way. Oh, right. You probably think it’s better to engage someone in intelligent conversation, don’t you? You would rather build a foundation of common values and work towards a mutually beneficial consensus than just write the word “GAMMON” on Twitter whenever anyone says anything you disagree with, right? Yes. You probably think it’s reductive and that it systematically demolishes everything we have spent generations working towards, don’t you? Again, yes. Well, fine. But you’re only saying that because you look like gammon. I mean, I have a genetic disposition towards hypertension, but … GAMMON. I’m not going to win this one, am I? GAMMON GAMMON GAMMON. Do say: “Always punch up, never punch down.” Don’t say: “Unless the guy below you looks like pub meat, in which case punch away.”
Guest MattP Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 1 hour ago, toddybad said: Based on the local election results labour would have a minority government or small majority though. One model had Labour ahead by one seat on the BBC, Michael Thrasher's model on Sky had the Tories ahead by about 30. I don't think you are correct any model on those results could give Labour a small majority.
ealingfox Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 (edited) Howling at this D. Miliband-Morgan-Clegg triumvirate. Doing their speech surrounding by massive bags of white rice - the most boring and pointless foodstuff going. The symbolism wasn't lost on me. If them 3 started a party I'd love to see who signs up. Edited 14 May 2018 by ealingfox
Guest Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 22 minutes ago, MattP said: One model had Labour ahead by one seat on the BBC, Michael Thrasher's model on Sky had the Tories ahead by about 30. I don't think you are correct any model on those results could give Labour a small majority. It was the bbc version I saw. A step forward from the general election. Means nothing though.
Guest Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 9 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Howling at this D. Miliband-Morgan-Clegg triumvirate. Doing their speech surrounding by massive bags of white rice - the most boring and pointless foodstuff going. The symbolism wasn't lost on me. If them 3 started a party I'd love to see who signs up. The trouble is a centrist party might be viable - not necessarily with clegg or Morgan - but it needs to understand and deal with the reasons for the north of England voting for Brexit. Politics needs to get to grips with the problems faced by people in the north and redirect investment there pretty sharpish.
Guest MattP Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 26 minutes ago, toddybad said: It was the bbc version I saw. A step forward from the general election. Means nothing though. The BBC version still had Labour way short of a majority.
Alf Bentley Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 1 hour ago, toddybad said: Is it offensive to call ruddy-faced middle-aged Tories 'gammons'? The lunch meat has found new life as a political insult – but an increasing number of people have taken issue with it I'm reporting this post as spam. p.s. As a ruddy-faced, middle-aged, spittle-mouthed wingnut lefty, I'm concerned that such abuse might rebound on me....
Guest Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 39 minutes ago, MattP said: The BBC version still had Labour way short of a majority. I can't remember the seats but think it left it impossible for the Tories to form a government but quite easy for labour? Either way it's still pretty meaningless.
Guest Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 20 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: I'm reporting this post as spam. p.s. As a ruddy-faced, middle-aged, spittle-mouthed wingnut lefty, I'm concerned that such abuse might rebound on me.... Tbh I just found the way the supposed left winger became more and more gammon like quite funny. I suppose it might well rebound on you
Guest MattP Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 3 minutes ago, toddybad said: I can't remember the seats but think it left it impossible for the Tories to form a government but quite easy for labour? Either way it's still pretty meaningless. Here it is. Certainly not easy, you need another 43 seats just to form a majority of one and the Lib Dems have already confirmed they won't work with you, so you take in the SNP/Plaid and the Greens to bungle something together. I would honestly you rather won outright than see that for a few months before another election. Fact reminds though, against one of the worst governments in my lifetime, you still can't get anywhere near defeating them, which is absolutely tragic.
Alf Bentley Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 4 minutes ago, toddybad said: Tbh I just found the way the supposed left winger became more and more gammon like quite funny. Er, so did I. I was just making a silly pun - but maybe the old meaning of "spam" is disappearing from use... Here's a right-wing gammon/spam: Here's a left-wing gammon/spam:
Sharpe's Fox Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 (edited) This thread is a wall of gammon at times Edited 14 May 2018 by Sharpe's Fox
Alf Bentley Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 12 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: This thread is a wall of gammon at times Don't ham it up, mate. That'll never bring home the bacon. 1
Sharpe's Fox Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 5 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: Don't ham it up, mate. That'll never bring home the bacon. Stop posting the thread with spam
Alf Bentley Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 Look at this! Another traitorous scoundrel undermining our great patriotic nation in the Brexit negotiations.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44106521 "Jeremy Hunt has warned Boris Johnson his public criticism could undermine the UK's Brexit negotiating position. The health secretary told BBC Radio 4's Today he thought "it's important that we have these debates in private". The UK government is currently deciding which form of future trade relations it wants with the EU before the detailed negotiations take place in Brussels. The foreign secretary called one of the two options - a customs partnership - "crazy", in a newspaper interview." .....and another lefty Europhile seeking to defy the will of the people to re-establish our proudly independent island nation as the dominant global power.... https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/13/uk-and-european-intelligence-more-vital-than-ever-warns-m15-head "Cooperation between the UK and other European intelligence services has never been as important as it is now in facing up to twin threats posed by terror groups such as Islamic State and states such as Russia, Andrew Parker, the head of MI5, will warn on Monday. In the first public speech delivered overseas by a head of MI5, Parker will say that intelligence sharing within Europe is now at an unprecedented level and that an effective security partnership between the UK and the rest of Europe is more operationally vital than ever before. “In today’s uncertain world we need that shared strength more than ever,” he will tell his audience in Berlin, according to a draft".
Alf Bentley Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 3 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: Stop posting the thread with spam I'll try to put a lid on my rasher conduct.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 1 minute ago, Alf Bentley said: I'll try to put a lid on my rasher conduct. And stop telling porkie pies while your at it 1
Buce Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 7 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: I'll try to put a lid on my rasher conduct. Please do, or we'll have to meat out some kind of punishment for your pork conduct. 1
Guest Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 17 minutes ago, Buce said: Please do, or we'll have to meat out some kind of punishment for your pork conduct. If you've got a beef with alf, take it elsewhere. We don't want to see you butchering the language in the politics thread - the steaks are too high.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 (edited) and then Edited 14 May 2018 by Sharpe's Fox 4
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 14 May 2018 Posted 14 May 2018 21 hours ago, Mark_w said: Can this policy be applied to Football forums? That would be nice, but I think you would miss foxestalk.
Guest MattP Posted 15 May 2018 Posted 15 May 2018 17 hours ago, Alf Bentley said: I'm reporting this post as spam. p.s. As a ruddy-faced, middle-aged, spittle-mouthed wingnut lefty, I'm concerned that such abuse might rebound on me.... Others will be more worried more than you, given the criteria for being gammon appears to be being white, over 50, working class, a Brexiteer, shouty and appearing angry just imagine the abuse this guy is going to get, his head is more gammon than gammon.
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