Chelmofox Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 Just now, trooky said: Yeah I was going to make this point, he's at the level of his transfer fee Excatly. I have seen players about as good as him in the PL who cost far more. As much as a tosser he comes across, they guy is physical, puts in effort and barely has any time off injured. He has big decision making issues, but is actually a good blocker of the ball and fast coming forward. We could have far worse for what we paid. 4
trooky Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 54 minutes ago, VLC86 said: No laughing here, happy to have a civilised debate. Your penultimate point is what led me to that thought, how do you move away from the perpetual circle we currently have of Wout getting booed, then cupping his ears because of the boos, to them get booed again . On the point re it not being the fan groups booing, I agree completely however having the fan groups on board means there can be a collective group of people saying draw a line under it and let’s all work together to get the club out of this mountain of shit we find ourselves in. The other option is to sell him whatever the cost, and in my opinion he is a very good option in defence for the way we play right now plus you lose money etc etc. I think we need a sacrificial lamb, or Rudkin so we can unite behind a new DOF and move forward. Turning on the players isn't going to help us.
Bourbon Fox Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 2 hours ago, CrazyKopCorner said: We've been more than patient with both Ward and Faes but their continued shiteness has to be addressed and the fans have every right to let their feelings known about continued perennial under performers I hope he fully gets the message and it drives him to **** right off See even with Ward, he was just not up to it but I do believe he was trying hard. With Wout it's the hands on hips, arms thrown out pouting routine that gets my goat. Too many times when he's been caught out of position or made some cock-up, or even just when we've conceded he has seemed very quick to blame teammates. He looks like he thinks he's wasted at our level. I'd be much quicker to forgive if he put his hands up and accepted his mistakes, or if he was seen to be trying to motivate the players around him. Even if he just got his head down and reset. The best thing he could do to rebuild respect is to try to build bridges with the fans - if he'd shown some passion for the result and just been delighted after he scored that would have been better. Even if he'd done a Vardy-style 'me, ****ing me' it wouldn't have been so bad. His current net contribution to our goal difference over the last few seasons is still in the minus figures so I don't know why he tried to use it as a '**** you' moment, he's done himself no favours. Looks like he's trying to force a move. 1
Dahnsouff Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 3 minutes ago, Bourbon Fox said: See even with Ward, he was just not up to it but I do believe he was trying hard. With Wout it's the hands on hips, arms thrown out pouting routine that gets my goat. Too many times when he's been caught out of position or made some cock-up, or even just when we've conceded he has seemed very quick to blame teammates. He looks like he thinks he's wasted at our level. I'd be much quicker to forgive if he put his hands up and accepted his mistakes, or if he was seen to be trying to motivate the players around him. Even if he just got his head down and reset. The best thing he could do to rebuild respect is to try to build bridges with the fans - if he'd shown some passion for the result and just been delighted after he scored that would have been better. Even if he'd done a Vardy-style 'me, ****ing me' it wouldn't have been so bad. His current net contribution to our goal difference over the last few seasons is still in the minus figures so I don't know why he tried to use it as a '**** you' moment, he's done himself no favours. Looks like he's trying to force a move. Both fans and Wout are stubborn, no quarter given. Best if he goes, but whilst he remains there is sod all point chastising him, as it clearly does not have the effect people would like. Both sides should try to compromise on their frustrations.
Popular Post Dr The Singh Posted 11 August 2025 Popular Post Posted 11 August 2025 1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said: Both fans and Wout are stubborn, no quarter given. Best if he goes, but whilst he remains there is sod all point chastising him, as it clearly does not have the effect people would like. Both sides should try to compromise on their frustrations. No 5
Popular Post Bourbon Fox Posted 11 August 2025 Popular Post Posted 11 August 2025 4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Both fans and Wout are stubborn, no quarter given. Best if he goes, but whilst he remains there is sod all point chastising him, as it clearly does not have the effect people would like. Both sides should try to compromise on their frustrations. 5
Les-TA-Jon Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 (edited) Can anyone actually explain what Wout Faes has actually done to get the reputation he has? (i.e direct quotes of his, or specific examples of behaviour on or off the pitch?) By all means have an opinion on whether he's any good or not, but how or why is he "toxic" or a "bad egg" that needs culling? Edited 11 August 2025 by Les-TA-Jon 1
coolhandfox Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 43 minutes ago, Houdini Logic said: I completely agree it's cause and effect... because why did fans boo when he came on? Because cupping his ear and gesturing to the fans is something he has done several times over the last couple of seasons, often without genuine reason and usually followed up by some horrendous interviews or actions thinking he is bigger and better than the club Do you have a link to those interviews? I've never seen them. 1
DJW1 Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 Last season someone suggested that Faes should be played in CM. I reckon it's worth a try, perhaps in the League Cup game
Dahnsouff Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 1 minute ago, Houdini Logic said: I know he was booed when he came on. I'm not sure if you're purposely trying to deflect this or not, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you simply didn't read the post I was replying to. I am not trying to be a <insert expletive> so I am keen to understand what I misunderstood! You said "No, it wasn't in jest. The booing started AFTER he angrily gestured with his fist to the fans and then started cupping his ears" So I replied, perhaps a little testily I confess "No it didn't. Shameful." Just not sure what was misunderstood given I said "Booing started when he came on.." If I got the wrong end of the stick my bad, but help me out here!
Winstonthedog Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 1 hour ago, Blue.Fox84 said: He ain’t the first player to be boo’d by his own fans and won’t be the last Don’t mind players showing passion but definitely came across as arrogance and out of touch The club is a mess, we’ve just been relegated again with a lot of players responsible for it playing yesterday. You’ve got a new manager who looks to be trying to build a connection with the fans and you’ve got a CB who has been apart of 2 relegations cupping his ears and shushing the fans, sums a lot of our problems up. The thing is ...... if Faes was as good as he seems to think he is ... some other club would be willing to come in for him and pay his wages ... any takers .... None as far as I can see ... booing players is not good ... however he is not blameless for it happening
Chelmofox Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 10 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Can anyone actually explain what Wout Faes has actually done to get the reputation he has? (i.e direct quotes of his, or specific examples of behaviour on or off the pitch?) By all means have an opinion on whether he's any good or not, but how or why is he "toxic" or a "bad egg" that needs culling? He flaps his arms about when goals go in. Actually feel there is a slightly physiological thing going on with being Fofana's replacement. Fofana represented us going for the big time - trying to get top 4 and Champions League. Faes cost a fraction of Fofana, and although he has played far more games for us and barely been injured, he represents a different version of the club. I still think people forget he is a cheap center back. 1
fleckneymike Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 13 minutes ago, Les-TA-Jon said: Can anyone actually explain what Wout Faes has actually done to get the reputation he has? (i.e direct quotes of his, or specific examples of behaviour on or off the pitch?) By all means have an opinion on whether he's any good or not, but how or why is he "toxic" or a "bad egg" that needs culling? You’re clearly not part of the body language expert group 3
Houdini Logic Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: I am not trying to be a <insert expletive> so I am keen to understand what I misunderstood! You said "No, it wasn't in jest. The booing started AFTER he angrily gestured with his fist to the fans and then started cupping his ears" So I replied, perhaps a little testily I confess "No it didn't. Shameful." Just not sure what was misunderstood given I said "Booing started when he came on.." If I got the wrong end of the stick my bad, but help me out here! Original message: 'I'm not sure if booing his goal was done in jest, but who in their right mind boos a player when he scores the winner? ' My reply: "No, it wasn't in jest. The booing started AFTER he angrily gestured with his fist to the fans and then started cupping his ears" You: Ignores the fact we were talking about the booing for the goal and starts going on about the booing when he came on and saying I was wrong even though we were talking about a very specific scenario Edited 11 August 2025 by Houdini Logic 1
Guest kristianity77 Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 Weird thing is when he scored and you could hear the so called boos from the crowd, from the tv I though our fans were just chanting “Woooout”
Les-TA-Jon Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 7 minutes ago, Chelmofox said: He flaps his arms about when goals go in. Actually feel there is a slightly physiological thing going on with being Fofana's replacement. Fofana represented us going for the big time - trying to get top 4 and Champions League. Faes cost a fraction of Fofana, and although he has played far more games for us and barely been injured, he represents a different version of the club. I still think people forget he is a cheap center back. Exactly. As far as I can tell it's: Throws his arms up after we concede (1. why is this a problem exactly? 2. Is he the only player to ever do this for the club?) Has big floppy hair Has (through not fault of his own) become synonymous with our recent downfall (we've had plenty of other poor performers and signings in that timeframe too) But no one can produce an actual quote or specific action taken on or off the pitch that justifies or explains the reputation he has. And sure, there's been some light reporting the last few windows of him wanting a move away - but again, he won't be the only player that's done that in recent years - and can you blame him, given the grief he gets? And isn't him leaving what a lot of people want?
brockmyster Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 Since he has joined he has arguably been the poster boy for the mess the clubs regularly found itself in, constantly showing a negative attitude which is clear to see, combined with his chatter this summer thinking he's bigger than the problem has rightly turned many fans against him. He then has the brass neck to do that celebration after scoring against a 10 men side that have well documented issues, he absolutely deserves the flack he got. For me our fanbase is summed up well by what happened with him yesterday. A bit of light booing for a player who probably does deserve it, he responds like that and has sympathisers. A lot of other clubs that would be it, fan base fully against him and united final straw and all that. But there's a lot out there taking his side forgetting its Leicester City FC, not Wout Faes FC - **** the curly haired tosspot. Yeah he's ultimately not the worst CB in the world, but you must be deluded if you don't think he is one of the roots that is rotten and needs cutting off for this club to flourish. 1
Dahnsouff Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 11 minutes ago, Houdini Logic said: Original message: 'I'm not sure if booing his goal was done in jest, but who in their right mind boos a player when he scores the winner? ' My reply: "No, it wasn't in jest. The booing started AFTER he angrily gestured with his fist to the fans and then started cupping his ears" You: Ignores the fact we were talking about the booing for the goal and starts going on about the booing when he came on and saying I was wrong even though we were talking about a very specific scenario Seems I judged the context more holistically, but its clear now the context is added 1
Bordersfox Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 36 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Both fans and Wout are stubborn, no quarter given. Best if he goes, but whilst he remains there is sod all point chastising him, as it clearly does not have the effect people would like. Both sides should try to compromise on their frustrations. Well he did score so maybe it did have an unexpected positive consequence!
CrazyKopCorner Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 For Faes and for the fans it's better off to have it in the open. We've thought he's a dick for a while he scores the winner yesterday and essentially proves it. Appreciate he has every right to give us some stick but on back of his performances over the last 2 years (some poor and many shocking) you'd have thought he'd have a degree of understanding and humility. The fact he doesn't is absolutely fine by me. Both parties are best to know where they stand and it's best if he leaves at the very earliest opportunity. The fact he doesn't have an immediate out should tell the twonk everything but he's too busy blaming every one else.
Dahnsouff Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 Just now, Bordersfox said: Well he did score so maybe it did have an unexpected positive consequence! Oh, assumed it was an own goal again based on the reaction.... 1
Bordersfox Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 Just now, Dahnsouff said: Oh, assumed it was an own goal again based on the reaction.... Very good! Regardless, like you, I cannot get on board with tbe booing yesterday as much as I've found him intensely irritating at times 1
Grebfromgrebland Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 I think on the whole we are a pretty weird set of fans and very sensitive. 2
Dahnsouff Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 2 minutes ago, Bordersfox said: Very good! Regardless, like you, I cannot get on board with tbe booing yesterday as much as I've found him intensely irritating at times Tbh, he comes across as arrogant, but I don`t know him and maybe that is just his persona, and as he is only one part of dysfunctional system, he does not deserve singly out in my mind. 1
Jattdogg Posted 11 August 2025 Posted 11 August 2025 We are so focused on the Faes issue but should be focusing on why and how we got here to begin with. Lack of accountability, sustainability, sense of togetherness, pride etc that our club have lost the plot on. There is a lot to unpack with that all of course and not for this thread I suppose. Just saying lol.
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