Stadium atmosphere

[Nolucklcfc]

14 minutes ago, MS0204 said:

I think your right but I think you only have to look at the quality of our songbook to realise that.. all these clubs have songs that are happy and get people jumping around, singing loud and proud.. freed from desire is a classic one.. we have nothing like that.. 

completely agree. But short of getting 10/20 lads starting new chants together it’s difficult to change it. UFS like the Europe stuff so it’s going to take some effort from elsewhere. The ayew one is boring and simple but effective because everyone knows the words and it’s not droany. 

[SemperEadem]

1 minute ago, Nolucklcfc said:

completely agree. But short of getting 10/20 lads starting new chants together it’s difficult to change it. UFS like the Europe stuff so it’s going to take some effort from elsewhere. The ayew one is boring and simple but effective because everyone knows the words and it’s not droany. 

Come on now you've stood behind us long enough to know that the full repertoire gets sung every week. 
Molly Malone to WLY.

Lets stop this false notion that UFS are suddenly doing something different from any other game they have been singing at for over ten years.

[Nolucklcfc]

2 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Come on now you've stood behind us long enough to know that the full repertoire gets sung every week. 
Molly Malone to WLY.

Let’s stop this false notion that UFS are suddenly doing something different from any other game they have been singing at for over ten years.

I meant in terms of new songs being created, they are more of a European style. 

[RonnieTodger]

I think timing is important and it’s resulted in a disastrously tinpot fanbase for us.

 

We had our greatest ever era on the back of ****ing clappers being ever present. This season will mark 10 ****ing years of them being here.

 

A whole generation of kids being brought up on:

 

A) unable to get tickets with likeminded mates as our stadium is always full

 

B) thinking that banging clappers and dancing to goal music is the way to support your team.

 

A lot of these new ish grounds with good home atmospheres (Middlesbrough, Coventry, Hull, Derby) are off the back of bleak periods in which fans have been able to create themselves an “end” and let things grow organically. 

[Freeman's Wharfer]

8 hours ago, anstey blueboy said:

Has anyone mentioned the so-called fans in the singing section booing and making willy puller hand motions at the end of the game to the players on Friday. I know the 2nd half-performance was poor, but proper fans should be trying to get behind the players and get them up for the next game, not making them feel worse than they would, already.

That stadium clapped our team to the most disgraceful relegation ever and round the pitch after it had just been confirmed. A bit of accountability is fine by me.

[niyaminski]

9 hours ago, davieG said:

Let the debate begin.

Newcastle are great in my opinion. Shouldn’t be compared in the same bracket as West Ham.

Edited 28 October 2024 by niyaminski

[Dan]

12 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

I’m not suggesting that this is a major reason but a contributing factor certainly is just how many fans we have banned from our games. We are one of the top clubs in the country for banning orders. 

This again is a byproduct of what the club are 'really' after.

[Lako42]

It only get's worse from here IMO.

 

My seat is going to go empty as much as it's used for the remainder of this season as it's just a frustrating chore and I'm unwilling to waste my time sitting in a library. 

 

 

Genuinely don't enjoy being there anymore 

[SemperEadem]

25 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

It only get's worse from here IMO.

 

My seat is going to go empty as much as it's used for the remainder of this season as it's just a frustrating chore and I'm unwilling to waste my time sitting in a library. 

 

 

Genuinely don't enjoy being there anymore 

Why don’t you relocate your seat lower to UFS?

I read a lot you saying the middle area of the section doesn't join in so much.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

18 hours ago, anstey blueboy said:

Has anyone mentioned the so-called fans in the singing section booing and making willy puller hand motions at the end of the game to the players on Friday. I know the 2nd half-performance was poor, but proper fans should be trying to get behind the players and get them up for the next game, not making them feel worse than they would, already.

Haha a few marks on the bingo card here, great stuff. 

[Bettsj2]

SK4 was worse than a library on Friday.

 

Zero atmosphere and more focus on trying to get Gary Neville's attention in the Sky Studio than watching the game.

 

It's been a while since I've been to a game and left thinking the atmosphere was even half decent. 

[Lako42]

18 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Why don’t you relocate your seat lower to UFS?

I read a lot you saying the middle area of the section doesn't join in so much.

I go with the old man and he likes the view further back, he hates being down low. 

 

I'd still be narked off at the rest of the ground being completely shit so for my own good it's better to just detach from the whole thing if I'm honest. 

 

Sad but I just don't enjoy being there anymore 

[worth_the_wait]

12 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

I think timing is important and it’s resulted in a disastrously tinpot fanbase for us.

We had our greatest ever era on the back of ****ing clappers being ever present. This season will mark 10 ****ing years of them being here.

A whole generation of kids being brought up on:

A) unable to get tickets with likeminded mates as our stadium is always full

B) thinking that banging clappers and dancing to goal music is the way to support your team.

A lot of these new ish grounds with good home atmospheres (Middlesbrough, Coventry, Hull, Derby) are off the back of bleak periods in which fans have been able to create themselves an “end” and let things grow organically. 

That's the point I've made several times.

 

When things have gone really stale, you need a long enough period of being mediocre/sh*t to let the attendances drop far enough, so people can relocate.   It's no good doing what we did last year.   Most people just keep their ST immediately after a relegation in case you come back after a year or two.    You need to be crap for 10+ years or so, to really get rid of "dead wood".   (or 20 years like Forest)

 

(and even then, you preferably need a ground that doesn't have season ticket holders everywhere.    When we were in the 3rd Division 2008-09 with average crowds of about 20,000 we still had lots of ST holders in every section of the ground.   So even then, we didn't have complete flexibility to move around).

 

Obviously our atmosphere got much better after 10 years out of the top flight.   The promotion year, great escape and title years (2013-2016) were great ... and even without a single "singing section", the atmosphere was generally good, at at times bloody brilliant.     Even the season after was electric at times.   And the noise at the Sevilla game was off the scale.

But after that, it's slowly just got worse bit by bit.

 

Short of WW3, us being crap for 10+ years or having a complete change of who actually runs our club (day-to-day), I can't see much improving.    Joking aside ... if we got so far in debt that we were liquidated and had to start again as a non-league team, they'd be a better atmosphere that at most of our games at the moment!

[FoxesTalker]

14 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Come on now you've stood behind us long enough to know that the full repertoire gets sung every week. 
Molly Malone to WLY.

Lets stop this false notion that UFS are suddenly doing something different from any other game they have been singing at for over ten years.

The point to be made here though, respectfully, is that the group is clearly inspired by the European scene. The passion for the club and city is not in question, it's just how the group goes about supporting the team. In the main, Euro style clapping/chanting isn't going to be received all that well because of the cultural differences in this country. I would say that goes for any other group, not just Union FS. This comes from someone as you well know, that supports the group and wants it to be a success.

[SemperEadem]

4 minutes ago, FoxesTalker said:

The point to be made here though, respectfully, is that the group is clearly inspired by the European scene. The passion for the club and city is not in question, it's just how the group goes about supporting the team. In the main, Euro style clapping/chanting isn't going to be received all that well because of the cultural differences in this country. I would say that goes for any other group, not just Union FS. This comes from someone as you well know, that supports the group and wants it to be a success.

I honestly can’t see anything thats now done differently by the group last year, which had its plaudits and then any of the previous nine seasons.

 

Same drummer, same songs, same members.

[CrazyKopCorner]

Take away the singing section and there really is fuch all atmosphere in the whole ground near enough. 

 

The section can get other areas going at least a few times (i.e more than once) during an average game. 

 

 

 

 

[Nolucklcfc]

1 hour ago, SemperEadem said:

I honestly can’t see anything thats now done differently by the group last year, which had its plaudits and then any of the previous nine seasons.

 

Same drummer, same songs, same members.

I think just shake up the songbook a bit. Short snappy chants which people can easily learn. The ayew one for example is one everyone picked up really quickly and is one of the louder ones now. The loudest chants in the ground are the “come on Leicester” and “Leicester Leicester Leicester” that come from sk3/4. It’ll always come down to effort but now’s a good chance to try a more original style as we are short on songs after last season. “Harry, harry winks” it’s boring but effective.  You might think “start one yourself” but ultimately if you’ve got 20 lads starting a chant  at the front, and it’s a chant people can learn easily, it’ll have more success than a longer European one. Again, not having a pop in any way, just some thoughts. 

[Stuntman_Mike]

On 26/10/2024 at 22:11, Grebfromgrebland said:

I thought the forest fans were immense and wish I could've jumped in with them, they were having a blast. 

 

Out of interest, did you contribute anything to the Leicester atmosphere? 

 

I've seen people wish to be in a rivals end, want to get knocked out the cups and want Forest to get promoted on this forum, and we wonder why our fans are fcuked  

 

No hope.

[MS0204]

2 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

I honestly can’t see anything thats now done differently by the group last year, which had its plaudits and then any of the previous nine seasons.

 

Same drummer, same songs, same members.

After reading everyone’s comments, I hope the group ain’t taking anything personally. I think the main reason for this topic gaining as many pages and replies as the cooper out thread is simply because of the team and importance of the match. Had it been against Fulham for example I don’t think people would have been as bothered. 
@Nolucklcfc speaks well on this page and he’s right in what he’s saying. Far more people will join in with the short snappy ones. That’s not to say cut out the European style as there has got to be a mixture of both.. yous do it really well. All I would add is to sing more about the players.. harry winks ran the midfield for the equaliser and ok vardy scored but he could have been sung for too.. 

On a separate note arsenal was incredibly quiet on the telly yesterday but when their Allez chant goes it’s top tier.. for some reason it goes all round their ground as we experienced a couple of weeks ago.. hint hint HIIINNNNTTTTTTT 

 

don’t give up lads, we are all working together and want the same outcome.. it’s finding that equal balance again.. 

[SemperEadem]

58 minutes ago, MS0204 said:

After reading everyone’s comments, I hope the group ain’t taking anything personally. I think the main reason for this topic gaining as many pages and replies as the cooper out thread is simply because of the team and importance of the match. Had it been against Fulham for example I don’t think people would have been as bothered. 
@Nolucklcfc speaks well on this page and he’s right in what he’s saying. Far more people will join in with the short snappy ones. That’s not to say cut out the European style as there has got to be a mixture of both.. yous do it really well. All I would add is to sing more about the players.. harry winks ran the midfield for the equaliser and ok vardy scored but he could have been sung for too.. 

On a separate note arsenal was incredibly quiet on the telly yesterday but when their Allez chant goes it’s top tier.. for some reason it goes all round their ground as we experienced a couple of weeks ago.. hint hint HIIINNNNTTTTTTT 

 

don’t give up lads, we are all working together and want the same outcome.. it’s finding that equal balance again.. 

Short and snappy and not ultra, can’t then really suggest allez allez allez.

 

I get what people are saying to a point but  even shorter chants can’t seem to get a great deal more singing.

Players do need more chants id agree but then look you lose half your songbook every year and people are commenting on how thin it is now, hence maybe why we have gone for more club stuff.

 

Just think everything is an excuse really, it doesn't have to be perfect just needs more to join in and away it all goes.

Edited 28 October 2024 by SemperEadem

[Sir Steve Howard]

46 minutes ago, MS0204 said:

On a separate note arsenal was incredibly quiet on the telly yesterday but when their Allez chant goes it’s top tier.. for some reason it goes all round their ground as we experienced a couple of weeks ago.. hint hint HIIINNNNTTTTTTT 

 

May well speak for myself here but considering the English clubs that are synonymous with the Allez chant (even though it was taken from Napoli), it would boil my piss if we ever tried to get our own version going

[CosbehFox]

I see this constantly on this thread 

 

'shake up the song book' 'your songs choice is rubbish'

 

You have an individual have the ability to change that if you want to improve it. People are conceding responsibility by saying 'yeah but UFS do this' - you can change that, it just takes using your gob and getting it going between fans

 

Football crowds are democracies - you think there's a better way, have a go. The crowd will follow whatever everyone likes regardless of what UFS do or even want. That's been the case since chanting started. It shouldn't be up to a collective of 50 people to write a songbook of songs for the club 

 

Allez Allez is the original ultra tune - in the 1980s the Italians used it from an Italian pop song. Alongside that now its the most bastardised rent-a-chant going. 

 

The Ulloa song which absolutely boomed has origins back in the Ultra scene in Argentina. Basically every song which keeps catching on in the UK currently between supporters is generally coming from Argies, to South Europe onto Northern Europe. 

Edited 28 October 2024 by CosbehFox

[Corky]

17 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

I think timing is important and it’s resulted in a disastrously tinpot fanbase for us.

 

We had our greatest ever era on the back of ****ing clappers being ever present. This season will mark 10 ****ing years of them being here.

 

A whole generation of kids being brought up on:

 

A) unable to get tickets with likeminded mates as our stadium is always full

 

B) thinking that banging clappers and dancing to goal music is the way to support your team.

 

A lot of these new ish grounds with good home atmospheres (Middlesbrough, Coventry, Hull, Derby) are off the back of bleak periods in which fans have been able to create themselves an “end” and let things grow organically. 

I do wonder what would have happened if we had finished 10th twice after the survival run. The clappers received too much credence and still some believe they are a positive thing.

 

Until we properly bin them we cannot get an consistent atmosphere. Unfortunately a prominent player or manager won't call them out.

[SemperEadem]

7 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

I see this constantly on this thread 

 

'shake up the song book' 'your songs choice is rubbish'

 

You have an individual have the ability to change that if you want to improve it. People are conceding responsibility by saying 'yeah but UFS do this' - you can change that, it just takes using your gob and getting it going between fans

 

Football crowds are democracies - you think there's a better way, have a go. The crowd will follow whatever everyone likes regardless of what UFS do or even want. That's been the case since chanting started. It shouldn't be up to a collective of 50 people to write a songbook of songs for the club 

 

Allez Allez is the original ultra tune - in the 1980s the Italians used it from an Italian pop song. Alongside that now its the most bastardised rent-a-chant going. 

 

The Ulloa song which absolutely boomed has origins back in the Ultra scene in Argentina. Basically every song which keeps catching on in the UK currently between supporters is generally coming from Argies, to South Europe onto Northern Europe. 

Glad it has not been me that said this, everything that bangs now in England/Scotland is what would be described as an ultra song.

[Dan]

1 hour ago, Sir Steve Howard said:

May well speak for myself here but considering the English clubs that are synonymous with the Allez chant (even though it was taken from Napoli), it would boil my piss if we ever tried to get our own version going

Leicester getting on it years after everyone would be very on brand tbf.