Whys it always me Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 2 hours ago, MPH said: or maybe people. Have relatives who work at the club and they are not allowed to officially share that evidence? For the record, I have a relative who works pretty high up at the club. He met the owners on their first ever visit to the Walkers stadium as it was back then and gave them a tour. However, I would never share the info he gives me publicly, and if I did, I would share it as a strong opinion of my own. are you getting what I’m saying, here? I also have a relative that works for the club who says it’s bollocks. Considering this is quite the accusation that is being made we are yet to see any actual evidence that this took place and until we do we can only assume it’s made up.
coolhandfox Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 Not sure why he get a free pass on here, didn't want to hang around for the fight last season.
Tommy Fresh Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 12 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Not sure why he get a free pass on here, didn't want to hang around for the fight last season. Rather someone say I'm not comfortable doing what you want from me and move on, then someone pretend they are and **** it 3
FOXSE Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 15 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Not sure why he get a free pass on here, didn't want to hang around for the fight last season. He is a young player and he said he want to play left back, and not an adapted centre back. Given Enzo has left and he would have effectively had an experimental year, positionally, he probably made the right call.... 4
MPH Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 22 minutes ago, Whys it always me said: I also have a relative that works for the club who says it’s bollocks. Considering this is quite the accusation that is being made we are yet to see any actual evidence that this took place and until we do we can only assume it’s made up. and what do you want as evidence? I mean, think about what you are saying… what evidence do you want?
Whys it always me Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 3 minutes ago, MPH said: and what do you want as evidence? I mean, think about what you are saying… what evidence do you want? For the player to come out and say he’s not happy with the atmosphere of the club or something along those lines. He actually said at the end of the last season he wanted to stay and get us promoted which doesn’t sound like a lad the is being bullied does it? He only left because Enzo wanted to play him in a position which he was unhappy to play, both of these are comments he made publicly and can be taken as facts. The suggestion he was bullied by a clique because he took thomas place is laughable. Rodgers was sacked and Smith started with Victor but he had a few rough games and Thomas then got back in the side for the rest of the season. He’s a young lad playing for the danish team, welcome him back and see how he gets on but let’s stop referencing bullying him when we literally have nothing to back this up.
coolhandfox Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 16 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said: Rather someone say I'm not comfortable doing what you want from me and move on, then someone pretend they are and **** it Do you think he would have said the same if we were still in the PL?
StanSP Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 Not good enough for us next season. Is there any clubs genuinely interested in signing him? 1
Tommy Fresh Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 18 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Do you think he would have said the same if we were still in the PL? Possibly considering it's a higher standard and he wasn't comfortable doing it at a lower level. Do you know he wouldn't of said it?
coolhandfox Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 1 minute ago, Tommy Fresh said: Possibly considering it's a higher standard and he wasn't comfortable doing it at a lower level. Do you know he wouldn't of said it? As much as you know he would have said it in those circumstances.
Tommy Fresh Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 4 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: As much as you know he would have said it in those circumstances. Why I said possibly, but your question also applies to your point doesn't it
MPH Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Whys it always me said: For the player to come out and say he’s not happy with the atmosphere of the club or something along those lines. He actually said at the end of the last season he wanted to stay and get us promoted which doesn’t sound like a lad the is being bullied does it? He only left because Enzo wanted to play him in a position which he was unhappy to play, both of these are comments he made publicly and can be taken as facts. The suggestion he was bullied by a clique because he took thomas place is laughable. Rodgers was sacked and Smith started with Victor but he had a few rough games and Thomas then got back in the side for the rest of the season. He’s a young lad playing for the danish team, welcome him back and see how he gets on but let’s stop referencing bullying him when we literally have nothing to back this up. do you really think he’s going to come out in the media and say he’s having problems with other players at the club? im actually quite sure there’s contractual obligations that stop players going to the media about that kind of thing. i can tell you pretty much what happened as you seem to want to know. He came to the club with very high standards of how professional footballers should behave. He shared his views and that rubbed people up the wrong way. Things were said to him over a period of time and the club knocked it it on the head and believe it was “ dealt with”. Edited 30 June 2024 by MPH
Whys it always me Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 1 hour ago, MPH said: do you really think he’s going to come out in the media and say he’s having problems with other players at the club? im actually quite sure there’s contractual obligations that stop players going to the media about that kind of thing. i can tell you pretty much what happened as you seem to want to know. He came to the club with very high standards of how professional footballers should behave. He shared his views and that rubbed people up the wrong way. Things were said to him over a period of time and the club knocked it it on the head and believe it was “ dealt with”. Ahh so he gave it billy big bollocks despite not setting the world alight and some players told him some home truths. yep totally sounds like bullying.
MPH Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 1 minute ago, Whys it always me said: Ahh so he gave it billy big bollocks despite not setting the world alight and some players told him some home truths. yep totally sounds like bullying. You’re determined to twist things your own way aren’t you? you’re clearly not interested in actually knowing the truth but you have your own agenda for some reason if you can’t stand him, you should have just said that to begin with and save everyone some time.
Whys it always me Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 13 minutes ago, MPH said: You’re determined to twist things your own way aren’t you? you’re clearly not interested in actually knowing the truth but you have your own agenda for some reason if you can’t stand him, you should have just said that to begin with and save everyone some time. No agenda here, I have no issue with the player and you can see that from my first reply to you today saying we welcome him back. you have your own agenda suggesting he was bullied but have no actual proof other than some suggestion he has high standards and allude that he told they players they didn’t. What a way to alienate yourself in any workplace!
MPH Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 1 minute ago, Whys it always me said: No agenda here, I have no issue with the player and you can see that from my first reply to you today saying we welcome him back. you have your own agenda suggesting he was bullied but have no actual proof other than some suggestion he has high standards and allude that he told they players they didn’t. What a way to alienate yourself in any workplace! i tell you what happened and you still twist it. If you’re going to do that with what happened, then you clearly have an agenda. Failure to admit that doesn’t change anything. 3
Whys it always me Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 15 minutes ago, MPH said: i tell you what happened and you still twist it. If you’re going to do that with what happened, then you clearly have an agenda. Failure to admit that doesn’t change anything. Unless you are victor or one of the players or a member of LCFC HR team then you literally have no idea so why would I admit something no of us have any idea about? if you are a member of the HR team then I worry about us as a football club even more. what you have suggested happened does not sound like bullying it sounds like victor said some things and some player gave it back which he didn’t like. what I want is what is best for Leicester if that is victor playing then great but as a fan base what we have to stop doing is harping on about stuff we literally have no idea about. Let’s get behind the team whoever the starting line up is. 1
MPH Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 11 minutes ago, Whys it always me said: Unless you are victor or one of the players or a member of LCFC HR team then you literally have no idea so why would I admit something no of us have any idea about? if you are a member of the HR team then I worry about us as a football club even more. what you have suggested happened does not sound like bullying it sounds like victor said some things and some player gave it back which he didn’t like. what I want is what is best for Leicester if that is victor playing then great but as a fan base what we have to stop doing is harping on about stuff we literally have no idea about. Let’s get behind the team whoever the starting line up is. the difference of course is that when telling you what happened you immediately twisted it to making it out to how badly behaved VK was. it just goes to show that you have no idea what you are talking about. He didn’t want to be a certain way as he believed it was unprofessional. He wasn’t “ billy big balls” about it like you twisted it to be, he wasn’t mean about it. He stayed quite polite about it.
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 21 minutes ago, Whys it always me said: what you have suggested happened does not sound like bullying it sounds like victor said some things and some player gave it back which he didn’t like. Correct. A difference of opinion, which happens at football clubs every day at all levels, does not necessarily equate to bullying. But certain posters can't seem to get their head around this. 1
Whys it always me Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 Just now, MPH said: the difference of course is that when telling you what happened you immediately twisted it to making it out to how badly behaved VK was. it just goes to show that you have no idea what you are talking about. He didn’t want to be a certain way as he believed it was unprofessional. He wasn’t “ billy big balls” about it like you twisted it to be, he wasn’t mean about it. He stayed quite polite about it. Ok so clearly you are either victor or related to him as you are suggesting you know how he “behaved” in the situation you have stated. If my suspicion is correct then what we are getting is one side of the event. I’m suggesting to go into any workplace and suggest that some work colleagues are not being professional or behaving at the required standard will win you no friends and alienate you from said work colleagues no matter how polite you think you may be when saying it. I have absolutely no issue with victor, he’s a young lad with potential. I have no issue with him calling players out but if he is happy to do that then has to be open to criticism back too. let’s get back on the tread though this is about victor coming back but I just wanted to point out that what you are suggesting happened hasn’t been confirmed and could be hearsay so let’s stop talking about it some of these players have moved on now haven’t they.
MPH Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, Whys it always me said: Ok so clearly you are either victor or related to him as you are suggesting you know how he “behaved” in the situation you have stated. If my suspicion is correct then what we are getting is one side of the event. I’m suggesting to go into any workplace and suggest that some work colleagues are not being professional or behaving at the required standard will win you no friends and alienate you from said work colleagues no matter how polite you think you may be when saying it. I have absolutely no issue with victor, he’s a young lad with potential. I have no issue with him calling players out but if he is happy to do that then has to be open to criticism back too. let’s get back on the tread though this is about victor coming back but I just wanted to point out that what you are suggesting happened hasn’t been confirmed and could be hearsay so let’s stop talking about it some of these players have moved on now haven’t they. either that or I’m hearing from someone who has heard both sides? If you read some of my posts again you will see that I have chosen my words carefully and not accused anyone of anything you however have used very strong language to describe VK. if there is any bias on show here, it’s been from you towards VK Edited 30 June 2024 by MPH
Whys it always me Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 27 minutes ago, MPH said: either that or I’m hearing from someone who has heard both sides? If you read some of my posts again you will see that I have chosen my words carefully and not accused anyone of anything you however have used very strong language to describe VK. if there is any bias on show here, it’s been from you towards VK Well if you have heard both sides you are either victor a player who was party to the event/events or a member of HR. Your post earlier suggests that you have a relative that works for the club so something doesn’t add up here. for you to hear both sides you would have to be part of or its purely second hand information where there will be some bias from the person that shares the information with you as that would be there views of the event. The bias I show towards VK if anything is purely based on your version of events, he joined a new club and you suggested he has high standards implying he thought some may be unprofessional or not at the standards he expects. In my view I would absolutely consider this a billy big bollocks attitude as he had done very little in the game at that point. As I keep saying, in any workplace this would not be a way to make yourself popular would it? I can keep going all day on this but for both of us, the rest of the forum and for VKs thread I suggest we agree to disagree as hearsay is not going to help us moving forward.
MPH Posted 30 June 2024 Posted 30 June 2024 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Whys it always me said: Well if you have heard both sides you are either victor a player who was party to the event/events or a member of HR. Your post earlier suggests that you have a relative that works for the club so something doesn’t add up here. for you to hear both sides you would have to be part of or its purely second hand information where there will be some bias from the person that shares the information with you as that would be there views of the event. The bias I show towards VK if anything is purely based on your version of events, he joined a new club and you suggested he has high standards implying he thought some may be unprofessional or not at the standards he expects. In my view I would absolutely consider this a billy big bollocks attitude as he had done very little in the game at that point. As I keep saying, in any workplace this would not be a way to make yourself popular would it? I can keep going all day on this but for both of us, the rest of the forum and for VKs thread I suggest we agree to disagree as hearsay is not going to help us moving forward. what I said was maybe I have heard from someone who has heard both sides., I didn’t say impersonally heard both sides. Hope you have a good week . Edited 30 June 2024 by MPH
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