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Cooper - OUT

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FrankieADZ

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Just now, suffolk fox said:

At what did you seriously expect at Arsenal away?  Cooper did nothing wrong yesterday.  Our  team gave it all so all this conspiracy crap about the team not

playing for him can get in the bin Player revolt my arse.

 

Who do you suggest we get to replace him?

 

Just interested?

so how about performances against Fulham, Everton, Walsall, parts of the tranmere game, 

 

Cooper is a part of the issue here, its pretty plain to see. like that Everton game, putting Ayew against Young, like come on Fatawu would have had him

playing JJ even tho hes looked iffy as hell at RB, 

 

Cooper said he learnt from his time out the game, watched all of our games from last season, its clear he's lied on both fronts

 

as for a replacement, god sodding knows with the idiots higher up

we need a manager whos adaptable really, so could be one of a number but the club always wants one with "experience"

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guest123

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14 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

lol Some agree even if you don`t. Personally I would like Potter, but he is a project manager, like Maresca, but fully expect Everton to get Potter is their takeover goes through.

Nobody agrees that the idea of potter should be binned because some people will moan 😂😂😂 ridiculous 

Dahnsouff

Dahnsouff

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Nobody agrees that the idea of potter should be binned because some people will moan 😂😂😂 ridiculous 

You are too wearying to discuss stuff with, its Sunday and I really have not the patience, my apologies.  Enjoy.

foxfanazer

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The quality of the league is at an all time low imo so there's a real opportunity to stay up but we're hamstrung by this manager. I just pray we don't leave it too late

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guest123

guest123

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2 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

You are too wearying to discuss stuff with, its Sunday and I really have not the patience, my apologies.  Enjoy.

There’s plenty of reasons for and against anyone, saying bin it because some will moan is not one of them

Sly

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38 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

Would have been interesting if the Arsenal player had been red carded as he should have been with 20 minutes to go.  1st goal was a  foul on Vardy too again the ref gave nothing.  Ref was an absolute homer and a joke at this level, dishing cards out like confetti mainly to our players.

 

It was a valiant effort yesterday, especially 2nd half.

 

Getting bored of this Cooper out nonsense now, genuinely believe some of you lot should support another team.

 

oh through the good times and the BAD........and repeat, which laughably some of you lot sing........lol.

It’s no different to having better players in the squad and not playing them.

 

Better quality coaches are available. 
 

We are inflicting damage to ourselves with persisting with Cooper.

 

I didn’t expect us to beat Tottenham, Villa or Arsenal. However it’s the horrendous tactics that are hurting us. 
 

Realistically we should have been heavily defeated by Arsenal.

 

If you look at the xG across our games, it’s crazy. We haven’t won one of those and I know it’s only an indicator but long term we can’t expect the team to out perform it. 
 

The xG against Arsenal alone just proves that Hermansen kept that score down yesterday and left it looking semi respectable. 
 

 

Leicester xG

Opponent xG

Tottenham

1.03

1.41

Fulham

0.86

1.96

Villa

0.77

2.16

Palace

1.65

2.89

Everton

1.34

1.82

Arsenal

0.34

6.08

Total

5.99

16.32

 

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Guest Basildon Fox

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12 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

At what did you seriously expect at Arsenal away?  Cooper did nothing wrong yesterday.  Our  team gave it all so all this conspiracy crap about the team not

playing for him can get in the bin Player revolt my arse.

 

Who do you suggest we get to replace him?

 

Just interested?

I expect cohesion and a team willing to have some kind of attacking intent.

 

Congratulations on being happy to play the bit part in the great Arsenal story. Our tactics were beyond embarrassing yesterday. We deserved nothing and got nothing. They were arguing amongst themselves at points yesterday.

 

It is not my job to replace the chump. I am a fan. Are you suggesting we should stick with shite in case we replace him with shite?

Dahnsouff

Dahnsouff

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6 minutes ago, guest123 said:

There’s plenty of reasons for and against anyone, saying bin it because some will moan is not one of them

The point is, Potter plays a non dissimilar style of play top Maresca (When he was with us) and people moaned about his patient style, so why go for such a manager to only reap the same results?

Maybe Potter has changed, but its not an ideal footprint for a new manager.

foxfanazer

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23 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

At what did you seriously expect at Arsenal away?  Cooper did nothing wrong yesterday.  Our  team gave it all so all this conspiracy crap about the team not

playing for him can get in the bin Player revolt my arse.

 

Who do you suggest we get to replace him?

 

Just interested?

You know a manager is in trouble when this gem of a question starts being asked on here lol

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jim5000

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23 minutes ago, suffolk fox said:

At what did you seriously expect at Arsenal away?  Cooper did nothing wrong yesterday.  Our  team gave it all so all this conspiracy crap about the team not

playing for him can get in the bin Player revolt my arse.

 

Who do you suggest we get to replace him?

 

Just interested?


They might have given it their all but we were setup terribly and had no way of playing. 4-2 hugely flattered us, on another day with Mads not in that form and it could have been 6-0.

 

We offered zero in attack, our midfield was absent, and we couldn’t defend for toffee.

 

What we expect is a good standard of performance, a team that is coached to play, an ability to compete. We had none of these.

 

Sure, we were always likely to lose the fixture but it’s the manner of the performance not the result or scoreline that has people worried and makes people think Cooper simply doesn’t have what it takes at this level.

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Filbert Fireworks

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We had a huge transition this summer. 

Promotion managerial change. All the off pitch issues. 

10 players left

9 joined

We didnt assemble the squad untill a couple of weeks ago and with the off pitch issues we know Cooper didn't get his preferred targets. What manager does sail through that preseason perfectly he also joined us quite late. 

 

Maresca was a brilliant tactician. Simply brilliant. It was all about meticulous drills and patterns of play. 

 

Cooper is somewhat the opposite he provides motivation and allows the players freedom to decide and express themselves which at the minute looks like we lack a style but the 2 goals against palace and arsenal you see it working. 

 

It hasn't fully clicked yet but a win is coming.

 

Transitions take time and patience. He has a good run in october now for it to click now and I hope we are all pleasantly suprised when it does. Reminds me a bit of MON remember thinking he was out his depth at the start of his tenure. 

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Dahnsouff

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4 minutes ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

We had a huge transition this summer. 

Promotion managerial change. All the off pitch issues. 

10 players left

9 joined

We didnt assemble the squad untill a couple of weeks ago and with the off pitch issues we know Cooper didn't get his preferred targets. What manager does sail through that preseason perfectly he also joined us quite late. 

 

Maresca was a brilliant tactician. Simply brilliant. It was all about meticulous drills and patterns of play. 

 

Cooper is somewhat the opposite he provides motivation and allows the players freedom to decide and express themselves which at the minute looks like we lack a style but the 2 goals against palace and arsenal you see it working. 

 

It hasn't fully clicked yet but a win is coming.

 

Transitions take time and patience. He has a good run in october now for it to click now and I hope we are all pleasantly suprised when it does. Reminds me a bit of MON remember thinking he was out his depth at the start of his tenure. 

Nice different post, thank you. I hope you are right, and a way towards wins is found during October.

marcymarc666

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22 minutes ago, Basildon Fox said:

I expect cohesion and a team willing to have some kind of attacking intent.

 

Congratulations on being happy to play the bit part in the great Arsenal story. Our tactics were beyond embarrassing yesterday. We deserved nothing and got nothing. They were arguing amongst themselves at points yesterday.

 

It is not my job to replace the chump. I am a fan. Are you suggesting we should stick with shite in case we replace him with shite?

We were playing one of the 10 team teams in the world at present , without class players there is no cohesion. All you do is chase the ball and try to get it off them and we couldn't,  but we tried. 

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The just give him time drones thought Rodgers would turn it around, then they started saying ‘who else is there’? when it was obvious he wouldn’t.

 

Anybody defending him is simply not worth reading or replying too.

 

There’s literally thousands of managers what would leap at the job. They’re not all going to be good enough but there’s managers in the Belgian, Danish, Dutch, Czech etc leagues doing well who’d love to manage in the PL and 5x their salary. 
 

The club hierarchy just for once have to stop being myopic goons and recruit from Europe 

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Filbert Fireworks

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4 minutes ago, Stadt said:

The just give him time drones thought Rodgers would turn it around, then they started saying ‘who else is there’? when it was obvious he wouldn’t.

 

Anybody defending him is simply not worth reading or replying too.

 

There’s literally thousands of managers what would leap at the job. They’re not all going to be good enough but there’s managers in the Belgian, Danish, Dutch, Czech etc leagues doing well who’d love to manage in the PL and 5x their salary. 
 

The club hierarchy just for once have to stop being myopic goons and recruit from Europe 

I'm in the more time for cooper camp. Rodgers had 3/4 season which I agree was too long when it clearly had all gone stale. We've all got PTSD from that. 

 

Coopers had 6 games. Just 6. 

October gives him around 10. 

 

That's reasonable. 

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foxgas

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4 minutes ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

I'm in the more time for cooper camp. Rodgers had 3/4 season which I agree was too long when it clearly had all gone stale. We've all got PTSD from that. 

 

Coopers had 6 games. Just 6. 

October gives him around 10. 

 

That's reasonable. 

I think Cooper has found a copy of Brendan's " How to lose a football game with pointless substitutions in injury time" kicking around the toilet in the managers office at Seagrave.

sharpylcfc

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8 minutes ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

I'm in the more time for cooper camp. Rodgers had 3/4 season which I agree was too long when it clearly had all gone stale. We've all got PTSD from that. 

 

Coopers had 6 games. Just 6. 

October gives him around 10. 

 

That's reasonable. 

10 games too many. Shouldn't of been appointed in the first place. 

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5 minutes ago, Filbert Fireworks said:

I'm in the more time for cooper camp. Rodgers had 3/4 season which I agree was too long when it clearly had all gone stale. We've all got PTSD from that. 

 

Coopers had 6 games. Just 6. 

October gives him around 10. 

 

That's reasonable. 

so when we lose at Southampton and Ipswich (because Cooper can't set up a team away from home for toffee), and maybe just get a draw from Bournemouth and Forest, and are sat bottom and winless with 10 played, what then?

 

why waste 4 games against other bottom 8 sides for the sake of reaching some magic number of games where sacking is ok

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sharpylcfc

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25 minutes ago, Stadt said:

The just give him time drones thought Rodgers would turn it around, then they started saying ‘who else is there’? when it was obvious he wouldn’t.

 

Anybody defending him is simply not worth reading or replying too.

 

There’s literally thousands of managers what would leap at the job. They’re not all going to be good enough but there’s managers in the Belgian, Danish, Dutch, Czech etc leagues doing well who’d love to manage in the PL and 5x their salary. 
 

The club hierarchy just for once have to stop being myopic goons and recruit from Europe 

That would require them to have a brain which I don't think they have. 

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shiv

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Tactically, I don’t think I have ever seen such a poor manager. We could not even string one pass together in the first half and got boxed in by the Arsenal press. We dropped far too deep and left a big gap between midfield and attack once again. We needed to be much more fluid in our movement, but Cooper has the team regimented in their positioning in a low block. You also need more technical ability in the double pivot midfield. Winks & Ricardo were brilliant together last season but he’s opting for Skipp who clearly does not have the technical ability to play this role, and is not playing to Winks’ strengths. Winks is by far our best midfielder and it’s criminal to see him being utilised ineffectively.

 

Our first goal was a stroke of luck through Vardy’s clever play to win the free kick. If you look at our play before he goes down, once again there is nobody within 20 yards of Vardy. He is isolated again but thankfully wins a free kick where we get a lucky deflection.

 

I would say our second goal was a much better show of intent, as we had N’Didi overlapping Mavididi, JJ pushing forward on the overlap and Buonanotte coming inside. We seemed to push higher up the pitch and led Arsenal to drop deep. Unfortunately that lasted no more than 10 minutes, as we very quickly reverted to Cooper’s defensive tactics and dropped far too deep. We let Arsenal come at us and had no counter attacking threat up top. This was a game that was crying out for some pace, and the obvious substitutions were to bring on Edouard & Fatawu at 65-70 minutes.

 

Unfortunately it’s clear that Cooper is not learning anything. He is making the same mistakes every week, allowing his poor decisions during the match impact the result and not playing our best attacking players.

 

I don’t believe for a second he’s watched all of our games from last season like he’s claimed, because if he has and then concluded that Ricardo, Fatawu and Mavididi shouldn’t play together then he’s absolutely lost the plot.

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Filbert Fireworks

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4 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

so when we lose at Southampton and Ipswich (because Cooper can't set up a team away from home for toffee), and maybe just get a draw from Bournemouth and Forest, and are sat bottom and winless with 10 played, what then?

 

why waste 4 games against other bottom 8 sides for the sake of reaching some magic number of games where sacking is ok

Who do we bring in for those 4 games? 

How long is it going to take a new manager to assess the team and bring in their style of play? 

Those 4 games are gone either way. 

The Doctor

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Who do we bring in for those 4 games? 

How long is it going to take a new manager to assess the team and bring in their style of play? 

Those 4 games are gone either way. 

Rodger Schmidt. three of those games are after an international break which is a fortnight to free up the team from the cooperball malaise and get the handbrake off

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