Jeremy Monga

[Claudio Fannieri]

Makes me smile, Ruud is clearly being communicated to regards these 3 players signing new contracts but at no time has the discussion moved on to his own future. I still don’t buy this story that he doesn’t know or hasn’t had a conversation about his own future. 

[teblin]

11 hours ago, moore_94 said:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6381646/2025/05/25/leicester-manager-van-nistelrooy-contract-monga/?source=emp_shared_article

 

However, Van Nistelrooy has revealed a trio of teenagers — Jeremy Monga, Jake Evans and Olabade Aluko, who made his first-team debut as a substitute in the final day 2-0 defeat at Bournemouth — are close to signing contracts.

 

In the case of 15-year-old Monga and 16-year-old Evans, they are due to sign scholarship deals while Aluko, 18, will sign a professional contract.

Sure Evans is 17 in a few days? So be surprised if it’s not a professional contract.

 

not until August by the looks of it.

Edited 26 May 2025 by teblin

[CrazyKopCorner]

It's clear Ruud has gone and has a pact with Top to keep his trap shut. 

 

In terms of Monga he looks a cracking player and could be a superb number 10 for us next season with Abul down the right and Mavi down the left. 

 

The No.9 is up for grabs - I'd go with Evans currently 

[Iwebema]

3 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Makes me smile, Ruud is clearly being communicated to regards these 3 players signing new contracts but at no time has the discussion moved on to his own future. I still don’t buy this story that he doesn’t know or hasn’t had a conversation about his own future. 

It such a weird situation, if we assume he has been told, I dont think the board would be happy he is making them look even more incompetent by saying we havent. Surely you'd want him to say that discussions are on going, or make some suggestion that a conversation has been had but no outcome reached, I guess maybe hes annoyed and bitter which is completely understandable, and our board are just that thick they dont see the problem with what hes saying.

[Claudio Fannieri]

1 minute ago, Iwebema said:

It such a weird situation, if we assume he has been told, I dont think the board would be happy he is making them look even more incompetent by saying we havent. Surely you'd want him to say that discussions are on going, or make some suggestion that a conversation has been had but no outcome reached, I guess maybe hes annoyed and bitter which is completely understandable, and our board are just that thick they dont see the problem with what hes saying.

I think the issue is if he does answer that talks have taken place, it leads to further questions, so in this instance the clubs media/PR team have maybe suggested that the silence route, whilst not necessarily putting the club in the best possible light, it does keep the questions down to the bare minimum regards RVN’s future

[StevieH]

14 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

It's clear Ruud has gone and has a pact with Top to keep his trap shut. 

 

In terms of Monga he looks a cracking player and could be a superb number 10 for us next season with Abul down the right and Mavi down the left. 

 

The No.9 is up for grabs - I'd go with Evans currently 

Will be great to see the youngsters next season. Maybe this will help with getting more of a connection with the fans.

[smudgerfox]

Isn’t it PSR ? Cant sack him in this PSR period because the financial liabilities for that have not been allowed for. If true we could be waiting until end of June. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

2 hours ago, smudgerfox said:

Isn’t it PSR ? Cant sack him in this PSR period because the financial liabilities for that have not been allowed for. If true we could be waiting until end of June. 

By which point we’ve lost a month of prep. Ridiculous 

Edited 26 May 2025 by Wasyls Pec Deck

[Mon.is.a.god]

I’m not sure about Evans but it’s been mooted we’ve offered Monga a staggering contract when he turns pro which blows all the competition out of the water by more than double what’s on offer elsewhere.

 

You’ve got to remember, Monga and his family won’t have had any financial rewards thus far from his career due to his age so it’s a way of securing his future, but will cost us a pretty penny.

 

With Jeremy it’s clear to see he’s going to be a fantastic player but it could be a risky move for other youngsters if they don’t live up to the hype but it’s the only way to keep them put. Tavares being a perfect example.

[Number 6]

1 hour ago, smudgerfox said:

Isn’t it PSR ? Cant sack him in this PSR period because the financial liabilities for that have not been allowed for. If true we could be waiting until end of June. 

I fail to see how this would be the case as we'd just agree something mutual with Ruud so he gets his payout in the next financial year.

[JimJams]

40 minutes ago, Mon.is.a.god said:

You’ve got to remember, Monga and his family won’t have had any financial rewards thus far from his career due to his age so it’s a way of securing his future, but will cost us a pretty penny.

Well, it's due to him not having had a career yet, but I get what you're saying!

 

Like you say, it's risky, but I'm not sure it's as large a risk as it could be perceived.  Monga, and maybe a few others getting tied in this way with some expected success in terms of their career trajectory would then be a proven example to other young players to come through due to the footballing side, not the financial.

 

Assuming a player like Monga or Evans do well and get a big move to a big club like Bellingham did as an extreme example, then you can point to that pathway for young players.  You won't (shouldn't) need to be referencing what you paid Monga and co at the time to get them to sign.

[JimJams]

4 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

I fail to see how this would be the case as we'd just agree something mutual with Ruud so he gets his payout in the next financial year.

I suppose that depends on the contract he's signed and what benefit that provides RvN to do that.

If he's entitled to be paid off on dismissal, if you want to defer that payment later than agreed as per the contract then you're either risking breach of contract and getting in a legal shitstorm that way, which you'll ultimately lose, or you'll have to come to some sort of agreement with him that needs putting in an addendum, but why would he agree to that?

I'd expect he'd get an additional fee for doing so.  Or would we expect him to do it out of the kindness of his heart?  Given we'll have just sacked him!

[Mon.is.a.god]

4 minutes ago, JimJams said:

Well, it's due to him not having had a career yet, but I get what you're saying!

 

Like you say, it's risky, but I'm not sure it's as large a risk as it could be perceived.  Monga, and maybe a few others getting tied in this way with some expected success in terms of their career trajectory would then be a proven example to other young players to come through due to the footballing side, not the financial.

 

Assuming a player like Monga or Evans do well and get a big move to a big club like Bellingham did as an extreme example, then you can point to that pathway for young players.  You won't (shouldn't) need to be referencing what you paid Monga and co at the time to get them to sign.

The flip side though is players like Thomas and Choudhary who were given huge contracts at the first glimpse of any promise who ended up contributing to our disgusting wage bill under Rodger’s tenure. 
 

Monga is clearly a talent though!

[Number 6]

2 minutes ago, JimJams said:

I suppose that depends on the contract he's signed and what benefit that provides RvN to do that.

If he's entitled to be paid off on dismissal, if you want to defer that payment later than agreed as per the contract then you're either risking breach of contract and getting in a legal shitstorm that way, which you'll ultimately lose, or you'll have to come to some sort of agreement with him that needs putting in an addendum, but why would he agree to that?

I'd expect he'd get an additional fee for doing so.  Or would we expect him to do it out of the kindness of his heart?  Given we'll have just sacked him!

Exactly, but this is why you'd just say "hey, if you wait until June for your payment we'll give you £x extra". He doesn't want to be here and it would be a month's wait for a little extra money, shouldn't be hard to agree.

[Jon the Hat]

15 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

I fail to see how this would be the case as we'd just agree something mutual with Ruud so he gets his payout in the next financial year.

That's not how accounting works.  As soon as you have a financial settlement agreed you have a liability which accounting standards require you to provide for in the current financial year.  You can move he cash payment but not the P&L expense.

[luthersfarm]

One of the only things exciting me about next year currently is watching him develop over the season. Could be a great player for us over the years.

[Claudio Fannieri]

I don’t think it’s a direct PSR issue, I think it’s more related to the amount of compensation owed, if we terminate during the season he would be entitled to the full amount stated, however at the end of the season his compensation clause may be dependent on finishing position, so by hanging onto the end of the season, Ruud may be entitled to a lesser payment linked to our final league position than if he was to be sacked with 3 or 4 games still left to play. 

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

That's not how accounting works.  As soon as you have a financial settlement agreed you have a liability which accounting standards require you to provide for in the current financial year.  You can move he cash payment but not the P&L expense.

Correct 

however, atm we have a contractual liability to RVN for next season of his salary. That doesn’t have to be accounted for in this seasons accounts. If we agree a settlement that means he continues to receive his salary monthly next season as would have happened then surely that amount doesn’t have to be brought forwards into this years accounts to end June?   If the settlement means an immediate payout or something different to his existing contract then I accept that has to come onto 24/25.  Of course a payout that effectively goes onto next seasons numbers will mean we’re double paying for a manager in 25/26. 

[goog]

1 hour ago, smudgerfox said:

Isn’t it PSR ? Cant sack him in this PSR period because the financial liabilities for that have not been allowed for. If true we could be waiting until end of June. 

This wouldn't be an issue.

 

They would just put him on Gardening leave till the new accounting period started then pay him off after. 

 

[lcfc sheff]

Where’s the shitty ITKs saying he’s off to Man City? Would love to know why people make up lies on this forum and repeatedly don’t get challenged 

[smudgerfox]

Well Top apparently told the players there was no money to sack RVN - I assume that doesn't mean literally no money but no PSR headroom to accommodate that expense. If that was  true then - December I think - it’s still true now… 

[Hinckleyfox]

Just now, smudgerfox said:

Well Top apparently told the players there was no money to sack RVN - I assume that doesn't mean literally no money but no PSR headroom to accommodate that expense. If that was  true then - December I think - it’s still true now… 

So “apparently” Top discussed sacking him days after he was appointed? 

[mozartfox]

35 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said:

Where’s the shitty ITKs saying he’s off to Man City? Would love to know why people make up lies on this forum and repeatedly don’t get challenged 

It’s getting like PMQ’s every day.

[LFEFox23]

Obviously I don’t want to sound negative or judgmental of a kid but….

 

Is Monga actually good or is he just good for a 15 year old?

 

 

[smudgerfox]

25 minutes ago, Hinckleyfox said:

So “apparently” Top discussed sacking him days after he was appointed? 

Well I think the inference was that they’d not accepted Steve Cooper and they couldn’t afford for them to strike the same attitude to Ruud. That doesn’t sound so incredible especially if it was true that PSR finances don’t allow for a three manager season and we have been here before when they didnt have the money to sack Brendan. No football club should be in a position where it doesn’t have the money to change managers but it is part of our ongoing dysfunctionality. 
 

no need to be so aggressive - just trying to offer a plausible explanation for baffling events…