LCFC Supporter Bans.

[LCFCJohn]

2 hours ago, Leeds Fox said:

Well it depends on how the words are put across doesn’t it.

 

Verbal abuse to other fans (especially our own), staff or the police isn’t really on. Nobody needs to hear some steaming bloke screaming c*** at people when they’ve gone to watch the football. A few choice words can be let go but there has to be a line.

 

Giving a strong opinion whether in person or online should be fine and un-punishable.

 

I’m certainly not on the clubs side. I’ve led far from a sheltered life, not much fazes me and I’ve acted in ways I shouldn’t have. However some things you see/hear at the football, usually from the small minority are embarrassing. It’s usually someone who can’t handle their ale deciding they want to be the loudest voice in the vicinity.

 

FWIW, I don’t know who most of the posts in here are in reference to and I’m speaking in general terms rather than specifics. 

 

 

Absolutely agree. I am not condoning any of the behaviour you have highlighted and my comments were in the context of the bit of your post I have highlighted. 
 

Abuse and. Physical violence is obviously unacceptable. I was referring to the clubs attempts to stamp out those speaking out against the running of the club and fair criticism. I’m not sure if people are banned for this but it is clear the club are tracking people and trying to control what is said on social media etc which is what I refer to by Top needing to understand we are a Country that is democratic and have right to free speech, which in this case I mean raising justified and fair concerns, in the right way against the club. 

[Leeds Fox]

2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

Absolutely agree. I am not condoning any of the behaviour you have highlighted and my comments were in the context of the bit of your post I have highlighted. 
 

Abuse and. Physical violence is obviously unacceptable. I was referring to the clubs attempts to stamp out those speaking out against the running of the club and fair criticism. I’m not sure if people are banned for this but it is clear the club are tracking people and trying to control what is said on social media etc which is what I refer to by Top needing to understand we are a Country that is democratic and have right to free speech, which in this case I mean raising justified and fair concerns, in the right way against the club. 

Definitely. I wasn’t singling out your post, it just fit the theme of what was being said. Yours just happened to be the latest one and I quoted it. 

[squidsworth]

I'd say any supporter banned that has genuine reason to question it, try and get together with other supporters in the same situation and as a group start lobbying the club and local MPs etc. It cannot be right that people are banned for holding an opinion that isn't inline with the clubs, or were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. 

Obviously if you were actively involved in some activity that was illegal or known to be against club rules, which are clearly stated in the home areas, it is different. You have to accept the punishment.

Voicing an opinion and questioning the establishment in the right ways, certainly isn't a reason though. I'm not sure anyone has come forward to state this is the reason they were banned?

PS will be interesting to see how things go after today.

Edited 15 February by squidsworth

[foxinsocks]

18 minutes ago, squidsworth said:

I'd say any supporter banned that has genuine reason to question it, try and get together with other supporters in the same situation and as a group start lobbying the club and local MPs etc. It cannot be right that people are banned for holding an opinion that isn't inline with the clubs, or were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. 

Obviously if you were actively involved in some activity that was illegal or known to be against club rules, which are clearly stated in the home areas, it is different. You have to accept the punishment.

Voicing an opinion and questioning the establishment in the right ways, certainly isn't a reason though. I'm not sure anyone has come forward to state this is the reason they were banned?

PS will be interesting to see how things go after today.

I wonder if rudkin will vote for the expansion of the singing section

[foxinsocks]

The protests need to be posted on the king power socials.   The whole of Thailand needs to know how vichais dream has become a nightmare

[Daggers]

Pretty sure King Power will be banning some more fans for possibly knowing something about this or once having eaten some Emmental

 

 

[Foxes_Trust]

On 15/02/2025 at 09:21, squidsworth said:

I'd say any supporter banned that has genuine reason to question it, try and get together with other supporters in the same situation and as a group start lobbying the club and local MPs etc. It cannot be right that people are banned for holding an opinion that isn't inline with the clubs, or were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. 

Obviously if you were actively involved in some activity that was illegal or known to be against club rules, which are clearly stated in the home areas, it is different. You have to accept the punishment.

Voicing an opinion and questioning the establishment in the right ways, certainly isn't a reason though. I'm not sure anyone has come forward to state this is the reason they were banned?

PS will be interesting to see how things go after today.

The Foxes Trust would ask any fans that have been banned in such circumstances (holding an opinion that isn't inline with the clubs, voicing an opinion and questioning the establishment in the right ways) to contact us. 

[StanSP]

32 minutes ago, Foxes_Trust said:

The Foxes Trust would ask any fans that have been banned in such circumstances (holding an opinion that isn't inline with the clubs, voicing an opinion and questioning the establishment in the right ways) to contact us. 

What can you specifically do, out of interest? 

 

Genuinely curious. Is it any different to what the FSA can do? 

[Foxes_Trust]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

What can you specifically do, out of interest? 

 

Genuinely curious. Is it any different to what the FSA can do? 

As an Affiliate Member of the FSA, we can discuss with their experts.

 

There have been a number of second or third hand reports of our fans believing bans have been heavy handed, to scrutinise this more closely we need direct examples from those affected.

 

We are very high up the table of the number of fans with current bans which is concerning on many levels.

 

We have also been in discussions for sometime with the club about having fan representation on the appeals committee.

[Jattdogg]

Just tongue the KP ring and deal with it.

[StanSP]

6 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

As an Affiliate Member of the FSA, we can discuss with their experts.

 

There have been a number of second or third hand reports of our fans believing bans have been heavy handed, to scrutinise this more closely we need direct examples from those affected.

 

We are very high up the table of the number of fans with current bans which is concerning on many levels.

 

We have also been in discussions for sometime with the club about having fan representation on the appeals committee.

Thanks for the reply. 

 

What have the discussions with the club been like? 

[Foxmeister]

14 hours ago, Foxes_Trust said:

As an Affiliate Member of the FSA, we can discuss with their experts.

 

There have been a number of second or third hand reports of our fans believing bans have been heavy handed, to scrutinise this more closely we need direct examples from those affected.

 

We are very high up the table of the number of fans with current bans which is concerning on many levels.

 

We have also been in discussions for sometime with the club about having fan representation on the appeals committee.

Downright fabricated by a lot of accounts.

[Daggers]

Get tommeg onto the case. 

 

He'll be able to rewrite history so there was never any flare.

[Foxes_Trust]

17 hours ago, StanSP said:

Thanks for the reply. 

 

What have the discussions with the club been like? 

Making progress, but only a success once its all agreed and in place

[SemperEadem]

 

[Philkeavo]

This regime is full on disintegration isn’t it. That treatment of fans is straight out of a pseudo fascist playbook. Showing all the signs of an authoritarian movement characterised by a dictatorial thin skinned leader with a closed centralised autocracy, using its agents to suppress criticism and dissent.

 

I genuinely hate the club I’ve supported for more than 50 years.

[SemperEadem]

Back to the days of having to show a ticket three times door to seat then. 

[Foxmeister]

I want to reach out to those who have been banned without justification and would like help making a subject access request to the club. It can be kept specific, from the date of the game until the final letter was received from the club.

 

The more the merrier, it’ll put them in a very difficult position.

[SemperEadem]

6 minutes ago, Foxmeister said:

I want to reach out to those who have been banned without justification and would like help making a subject access request to the club. It can be kept specific, from the date of the game until the final letter was received from the club.

 

The more the merrier, it’ll put them in a very difficult position.

Have you been banned and want help or is it you want to help others who have been banned?

[Dan]

31 minutes ago, Foxmeister said:

I want to reach out to those who have been banned without justification and would like help making a subject access request to the club. It can be kept specific, from the date of the game until the final letter was received from the club.

 

The more the merrier, it’ll put them in a very difficult position.

DM me if you want.

[Foxmeister]

1 hour ago, SemperEadem said:

Have you been banned and want help or is it you want to help others who have been banned?

The latter 👍

[SemperEadem]

Perhaps it is because it is so apparent now and talked a lot in the media but I have just renewed my season ticket and had to click buttons to say I won’t share it’s use and then again it’s all over the receipt that again it is a criminal offence to re sell the ticket.

Seems overboard.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

1 hour ago, Foxmeister said:

The latter 👍

Don't expect much back, individuals can submit DSARs (what you get back isn't very interesting but it does at least waste some of their time), and they categorically won't speak to you if you're not the person in question.

[Foxmeister]

41 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Don't expect much back, individuals can submit DSARs (what you get back isn't very interesting but it does at least waste some of their time), and they categorically won't speak to you if you're not the person in question.

They’ll be required to provide any correspondence relating to the subject during the period of the alleged action at the game and the final correspondence to the supporter.

If they don’t provide anything, there’s no justification for terminating the contract and they’ll be able to make a claim in the CCMCC. No costs in that court and dreadful publicity, particularly if there’s enough people prepared to challenge it.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

19 minutes ago, Foxmeister said:

They’ll be required to provide any correspondence relating to the subject during the period of the alleged action at the game and the final correspondence to the supporter.

If they don’t provide anything, there’s no justification for terminating the contract and they’ll be able to make a claim in the CCMCC. No costs in that court and dreadful publicity, particularly if there’s enough people prepared to challenge it.

As I say, what you get back isn't interesting, and doesn't contain details of bans, which makes me think that they're discussing the bans offline only to avoid having to provide exactly this.

 

Good luck, but challenging these bans has really ground down many before you, the club simply don't give a ****, an attitude spearheaded by Paul Cook and previously Anthony Mundy before he thankfully left.