Foxes Trust latest statement!

[KrefelderFox666]

59 minutes ago, adam said:

What a shower of ***** them lot are. In it for themselves and no one else. As long as they get their free cheese cobs and cups of tea down Seagrave three times a year all is well. What's the point in a statement like that.

You're confusing them with one of the other fan groups who get royal treatment from the club because they never say a bad word about them.

 

As much as this statement says very little, at least they are trying to challenge the club. Personally, I would like to see a bit more friction with the club because as always, they seem to be holding fan groups to ransom and getting their way.

[MPH]

  I’m absolutely staggered that despite all the criticism and clear communication from the wider fan base that the FoxesTrust still don’t seem to understand or even care about the concerns of transparency from the fans they claim to represent?

 

 

How is it  even possible  for them to be so far up their own arses?

[RYM]

9 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

Ooh so he's complicit? Insert your own reactions folks

I just meant it’s bizarre that the trust chairman at the time would let this be a thing. A total contradiction from what the trust claim to be about. That said nothing was challenged for years to enable him to get a place on the FAB and even closer to Anthony. 

[moore_94]

All well and good having these meetings and apparently a lot of the common issues being put across to the club but without being able to get even a tiny bit of an idea at all of what the club even said in response to those issues just makes it all just seem very pointless

 

Will these conversations ever be made public?

[Molson Canadian]

They asked questions and Susan Whelan gave responses like a politician does? 

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, RYM said:

Unsure what to make of it.

 

Some words are better than none? or a completely cowardly way to say they won't be shouting at the club tomorrow (ever) because the club have promised to come back to them on something again and don't want to jeopardise that.....again....!

 

I'm not convinced the trust should even be giving the club or the FAB any credibility at all right now. Both are an absolute mess and a disgrace in their current formats!

 

To call this Fan Engagement is also laughable when it's just a meeting.

 

“FAB weren’t afraid to ask difficult questions” is a pathetic thing to say. They may have mentioned something but I can guarantee they didn’t say “answer this by X or else......” , and if they did it’s another empty threat. The Trust say they aren't a protest group but at some point they have to turn on the club to have any credibility (if they have any left). Very nearly getting slightly cross at Susan isn't holding the club accountable.This is all the FAB / Trust do. Get a bit frustrated and then sit back while the club come back to them in their own time.....ad nauseam.  

 

I could be wrong, make of it what you will but the timing? Slightly yellow maybe?

Who’s Frank and Candid?

 

Sounds like a 90s DJ mix 

[Clogger_]

1 minute ago, RYM said:

I just meant it’s bizarre that the trust chairman at the time would let this be a thing. A total contradiction from what the trust claim to be about. That said nothing was challenged for years to enable him to get a place on the FAB and even closer to Anthony. 

Mark, I'll bung you some cash if you implement a puke emoji

[lfu]

41 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Be good if you can PM or link any example 

My post was clumsily worded so I'll dial back a tad sorry

Moshiri was put under sustained pressure by Everton's fanbase and they got him to do a 24 minute video conversation with the chair of the fan advisory board (right after the papers ran a story that Moshiri was putting the club up for sale!) 

Both before and after this interview Moshiri was (often) similarly secretive as our own board and blamed his lack of divulging information on the share purchase agreement with 777 (https://theesk.org/2024/05/27/moshiri-kicking-the-can-down-the-road-again/), but their FAB also appears to be independent of the club unlike ours, and have more supporters groups than we do, so they actually had some leverage to record a video interview and publish statements saying what little Moshiri said without the approval of the club's head of comms 🤔

Again I appreciate the position the Foxes Trust are in!

[Cincinnati Fox]

So a fans trust, who are meant to represent the fans has meeting with the club but outcomes is confidential.

 

absolutely rotten to the core

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, lfu said:

My post was clumsily worded so I'll dial back a tad sorry

Moshiri was put under sustained pressure by Everton's fanbase and they got him to do a 24 minute video conversation with the chair of the fan advisory board (right after the papers ran a story that Moshiri was putting the club up for sale!) 

Both before and after this interview Moshiri was (often) similarly secretive as our own board and blamed his lack of divulging information on the share purchase agreement with 777 (https://theesk.org/2024/05/27/moshiri-kicking-the-can-down-the-road-again/), but their FAB also appears to be independent of the club unlike ours, and have more supporters groups than we do, so they actually had some leverage to record a video interview and publish statements saying what little Moshiri said without the approval of the club's head of comms 🤔

Again I appreciate the position the Foxes Trust are in!

I appreciate this. 
 

One of the current conversations is how does all this activity manifest. It’s a good example of how it can. 
 

There’s been mixed reports of Everton’s FAB. The format is really good in terms of numbers and reps but apparently they get limited coverage in front of the club. I can’t correspond the latter tho

[skinnydipper]

VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT 

 

The Foxes Trust would like to inform all Leicester City fans that there is nothing that we can usefully say 

 

The Foxes Trust 

February 2025 and generally 

[davieG]

If you want the Foxes Trust to have more influence then they need to have greater membership. FT Reform are trying to change FT into a more challenging group. 
 

Instead of moaning about their lack of influence join the FT and give them the backing in numbers to make the changes fans would like to see. 
 

 

[Mickyblueeyes]

LCFC directors @Foxes_Trust who were the other directors ? 

[Clogger_]

9 minutes ago, davieG said:

If you want the Foxes Trust to have more influence then they need to have greater membership. FT Reform are trying to change FT into a more challenging group. 
 

Instead of moaning about their lack of influence join the FT and give them the backing in numbers to make the changes fans would like to see. 
 

 

Nice logical sentiment. Probably should get on board, but more from the necessity of purging the KP stooges than in any expectations of change   Ultimately this won't work: far too slow and passive. On balance it'll be *shame* that forces the change we need. (I don't fully buy the financial boycott option, that's small fry nowadays)

[lanefox]

52 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

Some people had a conversation

 

Nobody is allowed to know what they said

 

The end 

Reminds me of how the Mormon religion was started

[davieG]

3 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

Nice logical sentiment. Probably should get on board, but more from the necessity of purging the KP stooges than in any expectations of change   Ultimately this won't work: far too slow and passive. On balance it'll be *shame* that forces the change we need. (I don't fully buy the financial boycott option, that's small fry nowadays)

Fans recently had a chance to make changes to the FT board at the special AGM but didn’t have sufficient new members to make the changes. If there isn’t enough members to change the FT board and its philosophy then you can’t moan if you’re not a member when they can’t get changes from the club. 

[Clogger_]

Just now, davieG said:

Fans recently had a chance to make changes to the FT board at the special AGM but didn’t have sufficient new members to make the changes. If there isn’t enough members to change the FT board and its philosophy then you can’t moan if you’re not a member when they can’t get changes from the club. 

I get it... but even with total change at FT, I just don't believe Top's going to listen. It's behind closed doors. As sad as this makes me feel, it's a *public* display that's going to drive the change we need

[Scotch]

Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that, these groups exist to provide a link between the club and the fans...

 

With absolutely no information of what is tranpiring at these meetings being shared, it appears that the only link is between these groups and the club... the fan base aren't being considered by either party. 

[Craig]

If the club had truly cared about what we think, we'd have had a lot more dialogue prior to the afternoon/evening before tomorrow. 

 

 

[davieG]

Just now, Clogger_ said:

I get it... but even with total change at FT, I just don't believe Top's going to listen. It's behind closed doors. As sad as this makes me feel, it's a *public* display that's going to drive the change we need

It’s behind close doors because the previous FT board agreed to that and the club know that they don’t have a strong representation of the fans. 
I believe other clubs trusts have 5000 members we have managed to go from 300 to 600 the club have the trust by the balls and can squeeze them as much as they like.

 

The only prospect of change is a massive increase in membership. 

[davieG]

5 minutes ago, Scotch said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that, these groups exist to provide a link between the club and the fans...

 

With absolutely no information of what is tranpiring at these meetings being shared, it appears that the only link is between these groups and the club... the fan base aren't being considered by either party. 

Because they only have 600 members if you want better communication you need membership in the 1000s

[ealingfox]

Anyone know how many members the Leicester City Official Supporters Club has?

[Clogger_]

1 minute ago, davieG said:

It’s behind close doors because the previous FT board agreed to that and the club know that they don’t have a strong representation of the fans. 
I believe other clubs trusts have 5000 members we have managed to go from 300 to 600 the club have the trust by the balls and can squeeze them as much as they like.

 

The only prospect of change is a massive increase in membership. 

Thanks DavieG. (GREAT player btw ;-)) Do you know what, you're convincing me it's worthwhile joining the Trust. It's another shot on goal if nothing else... *But* it's bad publicity in Thailand - coupled with a VERY uncomfortable match day experience - that's going to get to Top. After all, I am certain he feels that we should all be inordinately grateful to him for the good times!

[Scotch]

12 minutes ago, davieG said:

Because they only have 600 members if you want better communication you need membership in the 1000s

They only need 1 member to serve the purpose of relaying the concerns of the wider fan base to the club, asking the questions we want answered and passing their response on to us. 

[Daggers]

2 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

I’ll step in here and I might get told off but I want people to understand the thinking and provide some context. I’m genuinely interested as a new board member to understand motives and get the feedback in how people want the Trust to follow. 
 

The Trust contacted the club post Fulham home with a whole series of concerns. I can vouch that these concerns were pretty much monumentally shared by the fanbase. PSR, strategy, planning etc. 

 

As a result of that contact, the opportunity to have a meeting and conversations opened up. It’s highly frustrating that the nature of FAB means the content of those conversations have to remain private. 
 

The board felt that there was a need to illustrate that the Trust was holding the club to account. Now there’s a whole argument about the balancing act of maintaining communication with the club and not. It’s a thorny subject where you can argue either way. 
 

Retrospectively the timing is clumsy and off but we wanted to give an update as opposed to silence when the accusation is often the Trust are doing nothing. 
 

Genuinely I want to hear people’s views but I want people to understand that there’s a genuine attempt to get over the feeling of the fanbase to the club. 
 

As a new board member, it’s an area which massively needs improving that engagement of its own members, making sure you are heard, happy to be PM’d here. 
 

The ideas that the Trust receive any favourable benefit is minimal, other than free hosting of events, which has a community society in a central Leicester location, you’d want to take advantage of 

One thing people (me) want is more openness. Maybe people don't want openness, but that makes people idiots.

 

If the FT are invited to share opinions and gets answers then that's great - but if they're sworn to secrecy then 'thanks KPFC, but no'.

 

There absolutely has to be transparency moving forward. There are so many issues with this company club that it all needs to be aired and addressed. Simple "Trust us" comments will get slapped for the complete bullshit they are.