General News Thread

[CornwallFox]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

I'll have abit of this!!

I'm 55 born n bred in lestah, both parents had to work, crappy factory jobs being immigrants.

Holidays? Yeah right🤣

Car? Yeah you guessed Datsun sunny.

House- 3 bed terraced off Uppingham Rd.

Branded clothes? 🤣🤣Hand me downs

School buses? 🤣 walk to school no matter what.

Games- play outside until dark.

 

Nowadays parents have the kids, waste money on cars, 90 inch TVs, lips, nails, stone island, all the games consoles, Instagram perfect life but dont have the mentality  to skrimp and save.

Most kids have probably been to more holidays by 9 years age than our generation  had in our teens.

Most things on credit and all tge fancy cars on monthly payments.

 

Yes the housing is a massive issue but let's not pretend it wasnt hard in our era.

 

This generation  is entitled and want everything on a plate.

 

I'm generalizing I know but you get my drift

Two people with bottom tier factory jobs and kids still owned a three bed semi and a car. 

 

The rest would probably be the same now but they wouldn't own the house now would they? 

 

Many things are on credit now because your generation has voted continuously to make the world like this. A new car then was affordable in a decent job. Now you end up with finance deals and lease cars because, like houses, cars have inflated much faster than wages. 

 

Kids now are much better educated, smoke less, drink less, do less drugs on average than previous generations. They were told to go to university to get a good job, now unless you work in a trade going to university gets you minimum wage. They've put more time and effort into their studies than your generation, paying and having huge debts, with a chunk of their wages then going towards that debt for decades, for virtually no benefit.

 

Two adults with degrees can't afford a house, can't afford to start a family, they get stuck living with parents much longer. 

 

This is the world your generation and above has created.

 

 

Edited 10 May by CornwallFox

[Sampson]

30 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Two people with bottom tier factory jobs and kids still owned a three bed semi and a car. 

 

The rest would probably be the same now but they wouldn't own the house now would they? 

 

Many things are on credit now because your generation has voted continuously to make the world like this. A new car then was affordable in a decent job. Now you end up with finance deals and lease cars because, like houses, cars have inflated much faster than wages. 

 

Kids now are much better educated, smoke less, drink less, do less drugs on average than previous generations. They were told to go to university to get a good job, now unless you work in a trade going to university gets you minimum wage. They've put more time and effort into their studies than your generation, paying and having huge debts, with a chunk of their wages then going towards that debt for decades, for virtually no benefit.

 

 

Not to mention their housing is an endless cycle of 6-month rental contracts in shared houses with strangers with shared kitchens and shared bathrooms which still take 50% of your monthly wage and then you lose a further £500 deposit every 6 months when they have to leave the house share to find a new one because of pedantic landlords finding a tiny scratch on a skirting board - which is actually what make it impossible to save, along with student loan increases on earning increases making career progression of possible not even pay. That is how most university-educated under 40s I know live, I have no idea where all these foreign holidays come from either.. 
 

What Raj describes sounds like a young 20 or 30-something adult in 2006 - pre the 2008 financial crisis - not a young 20 or 30-something adult in 2026 and sounds incredibly out of touch. 

Edited 10 May by Sampson

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, Raj said:

Car? Yeah you guessed Datsun sunny

I'd have guessed an old clapped out Merc that just about trudges along each journey

[st albans fox]

12 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Two people with bottom tier factory jobs and kids still owned a three bed semi and a car. 

 

The rest would probably be the same now but they wouldn't own the house now would they? 

 

Many things are on credit now because your generation has voted continuously to make the world like this. A new car then was affordable in a decent job. Now you end up with finance deals and lease cars because, like houses, cars have inflated much faster than wages. 

 

Kids now are much better educated, smoke less, drink less, do less drugs on average than previous generations. They were told to go to university to get a good job, now unless you work in a trade going to university gets you minimum wage. They've put more time and effort into their studies than your generation, paying and having huge debts, with a chunk of their wages then going towards that debt for decades, for virtually no benefit.

 

Two adults with degrees can't afford a house, can't afford to start a family, they get stuck living with parents much longer. 

 

This is the world your generation and above has created.

Are we thinking this is broadly the same across ‘the developed west’ or peculiar to the uk ? 

[BKLFox]

I see the government has given China a stern talking to about spying, intimidation, harassment & harming individuals or communities within the UK, ok is that clear we don’t like it, right whilst your here, here’s the keys to your new mega embassy in the heart of the capital with all its close links to the city’s business, financial and intelligence sectors along with its important data cables & hidden tunnels…ok you promise right no silliness.

 

Talking of giving things out 70m people in the UK, now who can we give £500m to to lead our charge on future Ai projects, 🤔 think damn it think 💡 ooh I know…. 

 

Same 5hit just a different a-hole delivering it

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

I see the government has given China a stern talking to about spying, intimidation, harassment & harming individuals or communities within the UK, ok is that clear we don’t like it, right whilst your here, here’s the keys to your new mega embassy in the heart of the capital with all its close links to the city’s business, financial and intelligence sectors along with its important data cables & hidden tunnels…ok you promise right no silliness.

 

Talking of giving things out 70m people in the UK, now who can we give £500m to to lead our charge on future Ai projects, 🤔 think damn it think 💡 ooh I know…. 

 

Same 5hit just a different a-hole delivering it

On this topic, a question; seeing as the UK no longer really has the clout to pursue massive tech and science projects by itself, who exactly should it collaborate with?

 

The Americans?

The Chinese?

A grouping of Scandic and Anglosphere nations like Canada, Aus and NZ?

 

(I think the last one of those is by far the most palatable, but they're also rather far behind in terms of organisation and coordination.)

[StanSP]

Think it was Richard Tice on Laura Kuenssberg show this morning. He was asked about the elected MP that made the comments about 'melting Nigerians...' etc. 

 

Tice then scored a bit of an own goal by saying 'well the voters voted him in'. Just makes it sound like the voters could be as racist and bigoted as the MP and didn't actually do much to detract from the severity of the comments or that there was any wrongdoing. 

[CornwallFox]

12 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

I see the government has given China a stern talking to about spying, intimidation, harassment & harming individuals or communities within the UK, ok is that clear we don’t like it, right whilst your here, here’s the keys to your new mega embassy in the heart of the capital with all its close links to the city’s business, financial and intelligence sectors along with its important data cables & hidden tunnels…ok you promise right no silliness.

 

Talking of giving things out 70m people in the UK, now who can we give £500m to to lead our charge on future Ai projects, 🤔 think damn it think 💡 ooh I know…. 

 

Same 5hit just a different a-hole delivering it

Out of interest, genuine question here, but we're never, ever, ever going to be at war with China. They aren't a rival or adversary as they are a global superpower and we are a fairly average country with perhaps above average diplomatic clout historically, though probably not now. What exactly is it we're supposed to be scared of the Chinese doing? 

[purpleronnie]

Stop the planes!!!!

 

[Foxdiamond]

52 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Two people with bottom tier factory jobs and kids still owned a three bed semi and a car. 

 

The rest would probably be the same now but they wouldn't own the house now would they? 

 

Many things are on credit now because your generation has voted continuously to make the world like this. A new car then was affordable in a decent job. Now you end up with finance deals and lease cars because, like houses, cars have inflated much faster than wages. 

 

Kids now are much better educated, smoke less, drink less, do less drugs on average than previous generations. They were told to go to university to get a good job, now unless you work in a trade going to university gets you minimum wage. They've put more time and effort into their studies than your generation, paying and having huge debts, with a chunk of their wages then going towards that debt for decades, for virtually no benefit.

 

Two adults with degrees can't afford a house, can't afford to start a family, they get stuck living with parents much longer. 

 

This is the world your generation and above has created.

 

 

I'm sure the parents enjoy have their grown up children living with them? All this highlights the dangers of generalisation. I won't be accepting the guilt for a whole generation. I won't bother going into too many personal details but suffice to say I was certainly not living a well off life. We were happy but money was very tight. No regular holidays etc. I remember we moved into our flat in October and had to save up for a fridge bought the following February. Luckily during winter but a few things did go off during a mild spell.

[purpleronnie]

 

[Raj]

1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

Two people with bottom tier factory jobs and kids still owned a three bed semi and a car. 

 

The rest would probably be the same now but they wouldn't own the house now would they? 

 

Many things are on credit now because your generation has voted continuously to make the world like this. A new car then was affordable in a decent job. Now you end up with finance deals and lease cars because, like houses, cars have inflated much faster than wages. 

 

Kids now are much better educated, smoke less, drink less, do less drugs on average than previous generations. They were told to go to university to get a good job, now unless you work in a trade going to university gets you minimum wage. They've put more time and effort into their studies than your generation, paying and having huge debts, with a chunk of their wages then going towards that debt for decades, for virtually no benefit.

 

Two adults with degrees can't afford a house, can't afford to start a family, they get stuck living with parents much longer. 

 

This is the world your generation and above has created.

 

 

Blimey!!

Let's hope YOUR generation can sort all the mess out, if the feckers can get off their phones!!

👍🏾

[CornwallFox]

12 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

I'm sure the parents enjoy have their grown up children living with them? All this highlights the dangers of generalisation. I won't be accepting the guilt for a whole generation. I won't bother going into too many personal details but suffice to say I was certainly not living a well off life. We were happy but money was very tight. No regular holidays etc. I remember we moved into our flat in October and had to save up for a fridge bought the following February. Luckily during winter but a few things did go off during a mild spell.

I didn't ask you to accept any guilt. 

But I'm fed up of reading a narrative that kids today are easy, previous generations had it so much harder, blah blah blah. It isn't true. Yes you may have had a hard childhood. That doesn't detract from saying that it's even harder today. I don't know why so many older folk can't differentiate between these two things. 

[CornwallFox]

9 minutes ago, Raj said:

Blimey!!

Let's hope YOUR generation can sort all the mess out, if the feckers can get off their phones!!

👍🏾

If your generation ever stops voting against the interests of the younger generations then we might stand a chance.

[Raj]

1 minute ago, CornwallFox said:

If your generation ever stops voting against the interests of the younger generations then we might stand a chance.

Let's hope your generation have the hunger, aptitude and desire to change things👍🏾

[Foxdiamond]

13 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

I didn't ask you to accept any guilt. 

But I'm fed up of reading a narrative that kids today are easy, previous generations had it so much harder, blah blah blah. It isn't true. Yes you may have had a hard childhood. That doesn't detract from saying that it's even harder today. I don't know why so many older folk can't differentiate between these two things. 

I think you  will find plenty of us know because we have loved ones. You don't need to think we are all the same. We didn't all vote for the governments elected that brought us to where we are. 

[DJW1]

3 hours ago, Raj said:

I'll have abit of this!!

I'm 55 born n bred in lestah, both parents had to work, crappy factory jobs being immigrants.

Holidays? Yeah right🤣

Car? Yeah you guessed Datsun sunny.

House- 3 bed terraced off Uppingham Rd.

Branded clothes? 🤣🤣Hand me downs

School buses? 🤣 walk to school no matter what.

Games- play outside until dark.

 

Nowadays parents have the kids, waste money on cars, 90 inch TVs, lips, nails, stone island, all the games consoles, Instagram perfect life but dont have the mentality  to skrimp and save.

Most kids have probably been to more holidays by 9 years age than our generation  had in our teens.

Most things on credit and all tge fancy cars on monthly payments.

 

Yes the housing is a massive issue but let's not pretend it wasnt hard in our era.

 

This generation  is entitled and want everything on a plate.

 

I'm generalizing I know but you get my drift

Luxury!

 

[davieG]

26 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

I think you  will find plenty of us know because we have loved ones. You don't need to think we are all the same. We didn't all vote for the governments elected that brought us to where we are. 

I've never voted for Labour, tory or LibDems. I've always looked for the most appropriate Independent Candidate and will continue to do so until we get a proper and fairer voting system.

 

I guess that would be deemed wrong to some.

[Raj]

1 hour ago, Foxdiamond said:

I think you  will find plenty of us know because we have loved ones. You don't need to think we are all the same. We didn't all vote for the governments elected that brought us to where we are. 

Hear hear.

Sweeping generalisation regarding a whole generation who have probably enabled young Cornwallfox to what they are now.

Hope his/her parents/ grandparents arent reading this!!!

 

Anyway I'm off out for an Avacado on sour bread toast, atkleast this generation gave us something!!🤣

 

Power to the people

Edited 10 May by Raj

[Trav Le Bleu]

4 hours ago, st albans fox said:

‘You were lucky ‘

Right...

[BKLFox]

2 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Out of interest, genuine question here, but we're never, ever, ever going to be at war with China. They aren't a rival or adversary as they are a global superpower and we are a fairly average country with perhaps above average diplomatic clout historically, though probably not now. What exactly is it we're supposed to be scared of the Chinese doing? 

Genuine question?
Come on Cornwall you saying we shouldn’t be worried about any foreign state openly conducting espionage operations on our shores?
Maybe we should give them all passes and they can come and go as they please in any building they want classified or not, maybe we allow them to just count our votes up instead of going through the hassle of trying to hide in the background when trying to rig elections, maybe we save a whole pot of cash by ditching our military & security services, sod it maybe we just give them the codes to the thing that does keep the UK at the top table because after all we are just a little old island and shouldn’t be there anyway.

 

There’s tin foil hat conspiracy & there’s plain ignorance, I think a safe place to sit is somewhere in the middle.

[BKLFox]

3 hours ago, leicsmac said:

On this topic, a question; seeing as the UK no longer really has the clout to pursue massive tech and science projects by itself, who exactly should it collaborate with?

 

The Americans?

The Chinese?

A grouping of Scandic and Anglosphere nations like Canada, Aus and NZ?

 

(I think the last one of those is by far the most palatable, but they're also rather far behind in terms of organisation and coordination.)

So it’s ok it just happens to be Tony Blair’s daughter-in-law at the head?

 

 

[Trav Le Bleu]

4 hours ago, Raj said:

Nowadays parents have the kids, waste money on cars, 90 inch TVs, lips, nails, stone island, all the games consoles, Instagram perfect life but dont have the mentality  to skrimp and save.

Most kids have probably been to more holidays by 9 years age than our generation  had in our teens.

Most things on credit and all tge fancy cars on monthly payments

 

Too many of these things are considered necessities too, and they really aren't. Plus there's some much pressure to have new stuff.

 

The people I deliver most to are young families in new houses. They've had to have a new house, with everything in it being new. When myself and Mrs Le Bleu (La Bleu?) got our first place (rented) I think the only new thing we had was our bed. Everything else was gifted or bought second hand.

 

Then again there's the things you have to have that shouldn't be, things like a computer or a mobile phone. You shouldn't NEED either, but big corporations and government have effectively forced us down that road to save them money by not paying meatbags.

 

There's also a lot of pressure to have the latest tech. Phones take the mick. I see people with phones costing £1000 or more, who wouldn't notice the difference using a £200 phone, possibly less. Ah, but my phone has 200 megapixel camera! Really? Cos you're not going to notice the difference between that and a 20 mp camera unless you're printing a massive poster.

 

One of the weirdest adverts I've seen on TV is for the Google pixel, which is advertised as coming equipped with Gemini AI... you know, just like every other android phone. Increasingly people don't do any research any more, it's scary the amount of students who use AI (and I recently had a teaching assistant who told me she uses AI to mark it - wonder what she'll do when AI takes her job).

 

An over reliance on tech will destroy humanity. I say this as someone who loves video games and high fidelity sound and vision.

 

I think though that it's very much a case of this and always has been...

 

You have a pristine white sheet and there's a tiny wine stain on it.

 

What are you thinking?

 

You're not thinking, "that's a really clean sheet," which it is for the most part.

 

You're thinking, "how did that wine stain get there and what should be done about it?"

[leicsmac]

25 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

So it’s ok it just happens to be Tony Blair’s daughter-in-law at the head?

 

 

Not the question I asked, but I'll answer it anyway in the hope that an answer to my own question is forthcoming in return. 

 

If there is political corruption going on here, then I hope it's dealt with as much as the law allows it to be, no matter who is at the helm.

 

Over to you, mon ami.

[StanSP]

3 hours ago, purpleronnie said:

 

Can I get in on this?!