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leicsmac

leicsmac

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26 minutes ago, danny. said:

Inconsistency isn't good. I'd want to know why it *wasn't* applied before though as much as why it's only being applied now. It seems like a sensible political guardrail that should always be enforced if that is the law.

Is there any reason whatsoever to believe that this administration are interested in consistency of reportage across political lines, in this matter or any other? Given past events, that seems really rather generous a reading of this particular situation.

 

 

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danny.

danny.

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7 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Is there any reason whatsoever to believe that this administration are interested in consistency of reportage across political, in this matter or any other? Given past events, that seems really rather generous a reading of this particular situation.

All political parties are biased towards their own agenda. I don't much care for any of them but I don't think there is much in it in terms of corruption and bias between either side in the US.

Democrats say the Republicans are the devil incarnate, Republicans say the same about the Democrats. Not many people are impartial.

The role of organisations like the FCC should be impartial and guardrails like fair broadcasting timeshare should be a measure to try and keep things more unbiased.

leicsmac

leicsmac

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2 minutes ago, danny. said:

All political parties are biased towards their own agenda. I don't much care for any of them but I don't think there is much in it in terms of corruption and bias between either side in the US.

Democrats say the Republicans are the devil incarnate, Republicans say the same about the Democrats. Not many people are impartial.

The role of organisations like the FCC should be impartial and guardrails like fair broadcasting timeshare should be a measure to try and keep things more unbiased.

Then, again, it has to be asked exactly why this administration, and not the many, many others of all types before it, have taken this particular step. 

 

If people honestly think that they are acting in good faith here, then that's up to them, but speaking personally I can't possibly see how, given their very obvious hypocrisy and actions in the past regarding pretty much any badmouthing of the "Dear Leader".

danny.

danny.

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3 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Then, again, it has to be asked exactly why this administration, and not the many, many others of all types before it, have taken this particular step. 

 

If people honestly think that they are acting in good faith here, then that's up to them, but speaking personally I can't possibly see how, given their very obvious hypocrisy and actions in the past regarding pretty much any badmouthing of the "Dear Leader".

I wouldn't have a clue, I'm not really that interested in US politics. I just wanted to include that bit from the article as the way you'd left it out it seemed quite biased and to change the story significantly.

leicsmac

leicsmac

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13 minutes ago, danny. said:

I wouldn't have a clue, I'm not really that interested in US politics. I just wanted to include that bit from the article as the way you'd left it out it seemed quite biased and to change the story significantly.

And the subsequent bit that I posted in reply then added additional context that showed rather clearly the history this administration has for taking action against those not toeing their line. 

 

The bias against them, in this case and a great many others (though, I will say, not all), is based on established empirical fact. And their ideology working on subversion of the very idea of such facts, turning them into a talking shop where apparently no one is invalidated but no one is right, is one of the most horrendously damaging things they have done and are still doing. 

Innovindil

Innovindil

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Multiple police forces across the UK have said they are assessing whether to launch investigations into Epstein-related allegations. They are:

 

Thames Valley Police - assessing allegations that a second woman was sent to the UK by Epstein for a sexual encounter with the former prince

 

Essex Police - examining flight logs and emails referencing Epstein's private jet using Stansted Airport

 

Bedfordshire Police - assessing Epstein's use of London Luton Airport

 

Met Police - launched a criminal investigation into Peter Mandelson, following claims he passed market-sensitive information to Epstein

 

Surrey Police - seeking information on an allegation of human trafficking and sexual assault dating back to the mid-1990s

 

Norfolk Constabulary - reviewing Epstein files but have not received specific allegations

 

Wiltshire Police - reviewing its records and "cannot definitively say that we have not had any allegations at this stage", and said it had supported the Met

 

Police Scotland - said it wanted to "speak to anyone with information" about Epstein's private jet using Edinburgh Airport

 

West Midlands Police - confirmed it was assessing the private flights into and out of Birmingham Airport following the publication of Epstein files

 

Get your bets in. How many of our police forces are going to get past the "we're looking into it" stage and actually do something against these rancid nonces?

CornwallFox

CornwallFox

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2 hours ago, danny. said:

Late night shows aren't news though? They're entertainment shows.

Fox News claims to be an entertainment show when it suits them legally try they appear to not be being targeted.

CornwallFox

CornwallFox

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1 hour ago, danny. said:

All political parties are biased towards their own agenda. I don't much care for any of them but I don't think there is much in it in terms of corruption and bias between either side in the US.

Democrats say the Republicans are the devil incarnate, Republicans say the same about the Democrats. Not many people are impartial.

The role of organisations like the FCC should be impartial and guardrails like fair broadcasting timeshare should be a measure to try and keep things more unbiased.

Unfortunately not many public bodies in the States haven't been purged of non believers.

 

A route I could see the UK rapidly heading down under a reform government as the right always rails against the public sector for supposedly working against them (complete nonsense btw) 

danny.

danny.

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1 hour ago, CornwallFox said:

Fox News claims to be an entertainment show when it suits them legally try they appear to not be being targeted.

OK? Doesn't negate what I said, does it? So they are both lying about what they are.

Sampson

Sampson

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If I were a traditional print journalists regardless of the political spectrum be it Guardian or Daily Mail I’d be rallying like crazy against AI and shilling for any party who wanted to properly regulate it: It will take all their livelihoods away from them.

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st albans fox

st albans fox

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18 hours ago, Innovindil said:

Multiple police forces across the UK have said they are assessing whether to launch investigations into Epstein-related allegations. They are:

 

Thames Valley Police - assessing allegations that a second woman was sent to the UK by Epstein for a sexual encounter with the former prince

 

Essex Police - examining flight logs and emails referencing Epstein's private jet using Stansted Airport

 

Bedfordshire Police - assessing Epstein's use of London Luton Airport

 

Met Police - launched a criminal investigation into Peter Mandelson, following claims he passed market-sensitive information to Epstein

 

Surrey Police - seeking information on an allegation of human trafficking and sexual assault dating back to the mid-1990s

 

Norfolk Constabulary - reviewing Epstein files but have not received specific allegations

 

Wiltshire Police - reviewing its records and "cannot definitively say that we have not had any allegations at this stage", and said it had supported the Met

 

Police Scotland - said it wanted to "speak to anyone with information" about Epstein's private jet using Edinburgh Airport

 

West Midlands Police - confirmed it was assessing the private flights into and out of Birmingham Airport following the publication of Epstein files

 

Get your bets in. How many of our police forces are going to get past the "we're looking into it" stage and actually do something against these rancid nonces?

Meanwhile the bbc are reporting on gangs in London exploiting young teenage girls NOW. 
Sometimes we get too busy looking at the forest that we don’t see the trees ! 

Teenage girls lured into forced sex by gangs in London, BBC finds https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjd9xnjyy8po

 

This is where resources should be pointed.  The Epstein investigation can be lower profile whilst kids who are being abused now are rescued (and those profiteering from it are dealt with). 

 

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Innovindil

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12 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Meanwhile the bbc are reporting on gangs in London exploiting young teenage girls NOW. 
Sometimes we get too busy looking at the forest that we don’t see the trees ! 

Teenage girls lured into forced sex by gangs in London, BBC finds https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjd9xnjyy8po

 

This is where resources should be pointed.  The Epstein investigation can be lower profile whilst kids who are being abused now are rescued (and those profiteering from it are dealt with). 

 

Gonna go a bit out of the box and say we should do both. 

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leicsmac

leicsmac

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16 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Gonna go a bit out of the box and say we should do both. 

This. 

 

Can't really get my head around the idea of any investigation into something as far reaching as the Epstein stuff being "low profile".

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st albans fox

st albans fox

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26 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Gonna go a bit out of the box and say we should do both. 

 

9 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

This. 

 

Can't really get my head around the idea of any investigation into something as far reaching as the Epstein stuff being "low profile".

We don’t have the resources to do both to the level required.  There are millions of Epstein docs (and millions more to come). 


im not saying dont attend the the Epstein stuff. - just don’t pour in too much resources when there are kids being raped and abused today which should be the priority.  

Zear0

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4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

 

We don’t have the resources to do both to the level required.  There are millions of Epstein docs (and millions more to come). 


im not saying dont attend the the Epstein stuff. - just don’t pour in too much resources when there are kids being raped and abused today which should be the priority.  

What % are those forces putting into Epstein compared to the abuse you mention?  Just curious on the ratio.

leicsmac

leicsmac

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7 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

 

We don’t have the resources to do both to the level required.  There are millions of Epstein docs (and millions more to come). 


im not saying dont attend the the Epstein stuff. - just don’t pour in too much resources when there are kids being raped and abused today which should be the priority.  

Which, I fear, will always be the case.

 

So, with that in mind, when exactly would be a good time to prioritise the stuff that Epstein and his invited guests got up to?

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st albans fox

st albans fox

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Just now, Zear0 said:

What % are those forces putting into Epstein compared to the abuse you mention?  Just curious on the ratio.

I have no idea 

if the bbc report is true them I’m sure that this isn’t a new thing and I’ve not seen any arrests/trials/prosecutions reported in the media. Therefore my deduction would be that not enough resources are being put into dealing with it. 

 

I’m just working on the basis that organisations are usually reactive rather than pro active and will want to be seen to be doing everything they can in response to the public/media concerns.  So possibly going overboard to avoid being accused of not doing enough. 
the list of forces posted above just got me thinking about it. 

st albans fox

st albans fox

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5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Which, I fear, will always be the case.

 

So, with that in mind, when exactly would be a good time to prioritise the stuff that Epstein and his invited guests got up to?

There isn’t an easy answer 

all I know is that Epstein died more than six years ago (and that sexual exploitation ring hopefully with him) 

Do we know if the Americans are providing access to the documents without redactions to British police? 

 

kids are being raped today 

 

id just rather save the twelve year olds who are about to be drawn into that cycle as my primary concern. 
 

otherwise in twenty years time we’ll be talking about more enquires in the same way as the grooming gang stuff now and we’ll wonder how it happened

 

 

 

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