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16 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

I think it’s dawning on Marti the size of the job but if he cuts away the diseased players and brings through a young high energy team the majority of fans will back him as it’s clear that’s what we’ve needed for some time. 

We should never have bought diseased players

Posted
1 minute ago, BeaumontFox said:

😂😂😂 in that case, I only expect to see comments about Marti and his personal life. Chill Winston.

Beaumont sez it all, front garden washing machine dumping area etc, chil and get that car that's not yours door open 

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The manager needs a clear message from the fans. As the Board will give him no such message. 

 

If the younger, newer fresher players are WORSE than the old guard, we'll still back them and back him for cutting out the cancers. 

Posted
1 minute ago, worthosoriginals said:

Beaumont sez it all, front garden washing machine dumping area etc, chil and get that car that's not yours door open 

That went personal fast. Only joking with you pal, calm down yeah?

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He had to haul BEK off because he wasnt trying. He's got players like winks storming off having a paddy because he cant handle his own ego.

 

He mentioned several times post match theres a tough dynamic thats going to be difficult to break and take some time.

 

Its been 3 games and hes figuring all of this out, how broken the team is and how the bad the attitudes of some players are, they were probably all smiles after beating Wednesday, but its in these moments this core group will show their true colours and he will really understand.

 

Let's see where we are at in a few more games, and hopefully we can do a bit of a shuffle in player personel. Which I recognise is very much down to the incompetent morons so I wont hold my breath.

 

If hes still starting players like vestergaard after all hes learned then fine, absolutely take shots, but its way too early to be going for him too heavy atm. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Paninistickers said:

The manager needs a clear message from the fans. As the Board will give him no such message. 

 

If the younger, newer fresher players are WORSE than the old guard, we'll still back them and back him for cutting out the cancers. 

Agreed with this. I’d much sooner see the newbies, even if they’re a little rusty. Nelson had a stinker the other night, but I’d prefer him to some of the alternatives. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Paninistickers said:

The manager needs a clear message from the fans. As the Board will give him no such message. 

 

If the younger, newer fresher players are WORSE than the old guard, we'll still back them and back him for cutting out the cancers. 

Why not let the manager do his job rather than always think we know better?

 

You know, give him our trust whilst he gets his feet under the table, and support the team.

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Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Why not let the manager do his job rather than always think we know better?

 

You know, give him our trust whilst he gets his feet under the table, and support the team.

What's the harm in him knowing the supporters are prepared for poor results in exchange for players who want to play for us?

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Just now, Paninistickers said:

What's the harm in him knowing the supporters are prepared for poor results in exchange for players who want to play for us?

Because we don’t know who wants to play for us?

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Posted
26 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

I think it’s dawning on Marti the size of the job but if he cuts away the diseased players and brings through a young high energy team the majority of fans will back him as it’s clear that’s what we’ve needed for some time. 

He can only do that with the support of his DoF, Owner and fanbase, do you think Rudders and Top will back him to alienate the likes of Vesty, Soumare, Winks et al to the bomb squad, personally i think not. As fans are we brave to accept a season of ups and downs whilst we trust the academy players, personally I am but accepting that we probably won’t piss the league or even make the play offs I would happily trade to see players like Nelson, Monga, Page, Aluko, Evans and Alves starting every week. 

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3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Because we don’t know who wants to play for us?

Mate, I genuinely think Winks, Vesty and Faes are three of our best players. 

 

But we need to move on. We need to reset. Even if those three wanted to play for us (which is hugely under question)

 

Freshness. Even if it means being worse. I think the manager would benefit from knowing the support would back his decisions to refresh the club and not just chase a 'quick win' by relying on the old guard

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

He can only do that with the support of his DoF, Owner and fanbase, do you think Rudders and Top will back him to alienate the likes of Vesty, Soumare, Winks et al to the bomb squad, personally i think not. As fans are we brave to accept a season of ups and downs whilst we trust the academy players, personally I am but accepting that we probably won’t piss the league or even make the play offs I would happily trade to see players like Nelson, Monga, Page, Aluko, Evans and Alves starting every week. 

I agree but they probably wont stick around for a second season 

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2 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Mate, I genuinely think Winks, Vesty and Faes are three of our best players. 

 

But we need to move on. We need to reset. Even if those three wanted to play for us (which is hugely under question)

 

Freshness. Even if it means being worse. I think the manager would benefit from knowing the support would back his decisions to refresh the club and not just chase a 'quick win' by relying on the old guard

So you have knowledge that these three should be taken from Marti’s options for his own good?

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Posted
Just now, winteriscoming said:

Genuinely feel for him. 
But starting Soumare in the first 3 games is ridiculous.  
Build a team around the kids. 

Whilst I completely agree unfortunately the club is rudderless and we could see back in April that basically you could sell the lot but the recruitment team have shifted only a fraction of the issue - Marti is probably aware that we need to shift about 6 more but benching or reserving them won’t help matters - we need Bilal to go to provide some flexibility I would imagine then we could ship out basically everyone bar the kids and Fatawu which no one would disagree with but just can’t see it……we won’t be able to judge him until he has rid of all the experienced entitled idiots……this season is a right off already and we need to do what Nige did by clearing out all the twonks and bringing in hungry players like James, Drinky, Etc alongside some youngsters but it was all about building an identity which we definitely don’t have now - its really sad to see how we have fallen and 3 games in we can all see its a car crash AGAIN!!!

Posted
1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

So you have knowledge that these three should be taken from Marti’s options for his own good?

No, I'm saying he needs to know that the fans will back a decision for a refresh. 

 

The owner would never give such a sign of support. 

Posted
Just now, Paninistickers said:

No, I'm saying he needs to know that the fans will back a decision for a refresh. 

 

The owner would never give such a sign of support. 

Why can’t we just back him to do the refresh he feels is required? I agree some show of solidarity is a good idea, it just should not come with strings.

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Just now, Dahnsouff said:

Why can’t we just back him to do the refresh he feels is required? I agree some show of solidarity is a good idea, it just should not come with strings.

It will come with more strings than a thunderbird episode 

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