BrilliantFox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 1 minute ago, markko said: I don't want Russell Martin and I don't want Gerard either. Rowett or Robins for me. I wouldn't be too annoyed with Robins, but the rest I would not touch with a barge pole.
jayfox26 Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 18 minutes ago, Drain the Swamp said: There is no reason to be positive this season. Unless the entire team gets a personality transplant and suddenly goes on a rollicking winning run to fire us to the play-offs, the only outcomes are disappointment, embarrassment or outright catastrophe. We need to write this season off. And unless we learn from this, we need to write next season off too. Possibly the next five years. What's needed is Rudkin being removed from daily influence, as he won't be sacked for as long as Aiyawatt has a hole in his arse, the vacancies to be filled with people who understand the game and how to build from **** all and a readjustment. Above all, the hierarchy needs to understand that we aren't the Leicester City that won the Premier League, FA Cup, were European regulars and were the blueprint for every similar-sized club in the country. We are now Blackburn Rovers with a better academy and training ground. They need to understand that they are as responsible for the decline as they were for the period between Vichai's death and us winning the FA Cup, getting successive top five finishes, smashing the Premier League away win record and a European semi-final in three years. They need to look at what they did between 2018 and May 2021 and contrast it with everything they've done since. Imaginative scouting, a clear identity, succession planning and understanding what we are and have become. I won't hold my breath, but we quite simply need a project manager who sees the bigger picture. Someone who knows how to work on a budget, how to bring through young players and how to develop a siege mentality. Simple as that really, because the summer rebuild is huge. Massive. We'll need a completely new team. The summer of 2026 will be a crossroads between revival and permanent decline. It is that simple. Spot on
SecretPro Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 2 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said: I wouldn't be too annoyed with Robins, but the rest I would not touch with a barge pole. Robins will not be coming here, why on earth would he? 2
jayfox26 Posted 5 February Posted 5 February If Blackburn hire Mowbray they will stay up at our expense. With this in mind, we should probably hire Mowbray! 1
Popular Post Dahnsouff Posted 5 February Popular Post Posted 5 February Just get Rowett and stop acting like we deserve better. 6 1
Winstonthedog Posted 5 February Posted 5 February (edited) What we need is a motivator ... not really bothered how we get the points ... NO tippy tappy football ... full on press and attack ... give the fans something to get excited about, create an atmosphere in the ground ... more of the past few months and we are going to struggle to escape the pull of league 1 ... and don't play Vestergaard and Ayew... they are to slow and stop us playing Edited 5 February by Winstonthedog Spelling 3
K789 Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 1 hour ago, Drain the Swamp said: Skubala would be great if we could get him. Don't be put off by the PE teacher origins as his trajectory has only been upwards since. He's worked with academies, Leeds as an assistant coach and now doing a superb job at Lincoln. The issue would be the sell; Lincoln could conceivably cross us as they go up and we go down, and he's absolutely loved there. That being said, he may well back himself to keep us up and, with the monkey now off our backs, could see it as a fresh start with an excellent academy (where he's specialised,) facilities well beyond what he's worked with in his career so far, probably some money to work with after all of the outgoings in the summer and the chance to build his career at a club who, with all due respect to Lincoln, have a much higher ceiling if run correctly. Given he's done all he has at Lincoln with one of the smallest budgets in the league, you'd say there's some grit and siege mentality there as he gets players to play above themselves. Probably the closest realistic thing to a Pearson regen out there. With the best will in the world it isn't much of a sell and I.think you are downplaying the size of the club. Skubala would qalk here id assume
ronnup Posted 5 February Posted 5 February (edited) The squad has quality. We just need someone who can impress upon the feckless eejits a single, simple style if ****ing defending and attacking. Nothing fancy. Just a simple system and try hard Edited 5 February by ronnup 1
Mickyblueeyes Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Just get Rowett and stop acting like we deserve better. It’s a relegation fight now. He’s actually a no brainer now. Experienced in this league. Builds a good defence. Graft. If they want to pull a rabbit out the hat, go for Robins. anything else now, even a Martin with a specific style, waits until the summer - you can’t expect to scrap and build a style 2 1
Spiritwalker Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 11 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: of course it is, what kind of tripe is this My kind of tripe. Gerrard’s Villa were shocking.
whoareyaaa Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 1 minute ago, Mickyblueeyes said: It’s a relegation fight now. He’s actually a no brainer now. Experienced in this league. Builds a good defence. Graft. If they want to pull a rabbit out the hat, go for Robins. anything else now, even a Martin with a specific style, waits until the summer - you can’t expect to scrap and build a style Gerrard who was probably one of the most industrial midfielders in the Prem would get this lot playing and fighting for the shirt it's a no brainer and we would be able to attract a better crop of players than under Rowett. James would become a 50m player under Gerrard 1
Dahnsouff Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 12 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said: I wouldn't be too annoyed with Robins, but the rest I would not touch with a barge pole. Nor they us
whoareyaaa Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 1 minute ago, Spiritwalker said: My kind of tripe. Gerrard’s Villa were shocking. Boring argument tbh.
BrilliantFox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February (edited) 9 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Just get Rowett and stop acting like we deserve better. We said that about Cooper, how did that end up? Can't just be bringing in poor managers without seeing a future for them at this club. Rather no manager than the guy who's just been sacked by... Oxford The constant advocating for bringing in managers we all know are not good enough is frankly amusing. Edited 5 February by BrilliantFox 1
MonarchFox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February Big Sam till the end of the season keeps us up comfortably
Dahnsouff Posted 5 February Posted 5 February Just now, BrilliantFox said: We said that about Cooper, how did that end up? Can't just be bringing in poor managers without seeing a future for them at this club. Rather no manager than the guy who's just been sacked by... Oxford OK. Enjoy that hubris in league one. We need to fight not piss our pants.
winteriscoming Posted 5 February Author Posted 5 February I’d be happy with Skubala. Looks like someone for a rebuild which is what we need. But knowing these clowns they wouldn’t even realize that they’d have to pay compensation to Lincoln for him. 3
Popular Post Drain the Swamp Posted 5 February Popular Post Posted 5 February 1 minute ago, K789 said: With the best will in the world it isn't much of a sell and I.think you are downplaying the size of the club. Skubala would qalk here id assume It's also been a poisoned chalice for most. Since Ranieri, only Maresca has left us with his reputation enhanced. Puel, Rodgers, Smith, Cooper, van Nistelrooy and now Cifuentes have all had absolutely torrid times here. FWIW I think Skubala is what we need. Upwards trajectory, experience with youth and tight budgets, hasn't relied on a glittering playing career or a big reputation or ego. He seems to have built a great team spirit at Sincil Bank as well. He is genuinely the closest thing we could get to a Pearson regen. And that's exactly why he may want to stay where he is currently successful and wait for a more attractive, stable and less risky Championship job. That's not to say we have nothing attractive about us. The deduction is survivable if the players find the right system and play to their abilities. If Lascelles stays fit, Fatawu picks up his form and James picks up where he left off before his injury, 6 wins from here to May becomes doable. Then the new manager will see dead wood carved from the wage bill, probably a reasonable amount in transfer fees and most definitely a shit ton off the wage bill. Indications are that 23-25 was much better in terms of finances, giving an actual transfer budget on top of genuinely world class training facilities and a productive academy. A project manager might be persuaded to look at us and say he could have a club like that back in the Premier League, perhaps even sustainably, by the end of a five year contract. They might even see us as a new Sunderland. But let's not pretend it won't be a sell. The new manager could just as easily be the new Marti Cifuentes as the new Enzo Maresca. 5
South Shire Fox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 18 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Just get Rowett and stop acting like we deserve better. Always have done. Still remember people on here turning their noses up at Moyes after what he’d accomplished at West Ham 1
Bluebeemer Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 29 minutes ago, cruzFOX said: Can we please not mention Russell Martin anymore. The media keeps bringing him up too. The guy is a fraud and a failure everywhere he goes. We seriously need some stability and common sense now. We are in deep poop. Club needs saving than we can re-assess in the summer. If we get lucky again like we did with Enzo I’ll take it but the chances are slim. Just want someone sensible in to get this team going again. Hopefully, he will be at Charlton before Top and Rud get things sorted. https://www.footballinsider247.com/russell-martin-now-in-running-for-championship-return-as-odds-narrow-on-joining-london-club/
Drain the Swamp Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 23 minutes ago, BrilliantFox said: We said that about Cooper, how did that end up? Can't just be bringing in poor managers without seeing a future for them at this club. Rather no manager than the guy who's just been sacked by... Oxford The constant advocating for bringing in managers we all know are not good enough is frankly amusing. I honestly find it puzzling. 'Not wanting Rowett' ≠ Let's see if Pep or Simeone fancy it. We have just dispensed with the services of an underwhelming, mediocre Championship manager whose former team improved after he left. Why employ another? The sensible option is to look for a younger, up-and-coming manager from either the lower leagues or abroad. Cifuentes was on an even trajectory of mediocrity. Rowett is a downward trajectory. Let's go for someone who'll conceivably have a better CV in five years, not someone who had a better CV five years ago. 1
Dahnsouff Posted 5 February Posted 5 February Just now, Drain the Swamp said: I honestly find it puzzling. 'Not wanting Rowett' ≠ Let's see if Pep or Simeone fancy it. We have just dispensed with the services of an underwhelming, mediocre Championship manager whose former team improved after he left. Why employ another? The sensible option is to look for a younger, up-and-coming manager from either the lower leagues or abroad. Cifuentes was on an even trajectory of mediocrity. Rowett is a downward trajectory. Let's go for someone who'll conceivably have a better CV in five years, not someone who had a better CV five years ago. I would dispute this, because Rowett is a different sort than Marti, and we have a very poor record of hitting the bullseyes with unknown managers.
South Shire Fox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February 33 minutes ago, ronnup said: The squad has quality. We just need someone who can impress upon the feckless eejits a single, simple style if ****ing defending and attacking. Nothing fancy. Just a simple system and try hard Does it though? 2
Drain the Swamp Posted 5 February Posted 5 February Just now, South Shire Fox said: Does it though? Compared to who we're now down there with, yes. It's a midtable side, not a relegation one. 1
CloudFox Posted 5 February Posted 5 February (edited) Now we know our situation, we need someone in quickly. Interim manager will do. Keep us up, and reassess our situation once we're safe. Skubala isn't going to come here right now. A long-term manager probably isn't going to come here right now. We need solidity, we need graft, and we need to use this to build a siege mentality in the squad. Not just a "we're better than this", but a "we're better than this, and we're going to show everyone we are better than this". Boy do I wish we could have Pearson of old right now. Edited 5 February by CloudFox
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