Would you want us to be relegated to L1?

[Corky]

3 hours ago, Foxmeister said:

Anyone know the quickest a club has gone from winning the top flight to third tier?

 

Eerily our last game will be 10 years to the day after our EPL win.

Derby won the league in 1975 and were relegated to Division Three nine years later in 1984.

[davieG]

3 hours ago, Foxmeister said:

Anyone know the quickest a club has gone from winning the top flight to third tier?

 

Eerily our last game will be 10 years to the day after our EPL win.

Admitted into the Football League in 1920, they spent the next 38 years in the Third Division South. Under Dave Bowen, the club achieved three promotions from the Fourth Division to the First Division within five years. However, Northampton only survived for one season in the top tier of English football after relegation in 1966. Northampton then experienced two further relegations in three years to return to the Fourth Division by 1969

[kingcarr21]

Yes just so we can then go to L2 and win that to complete the set

[AyewJoking]

22 hours ago, Parafox said:

Sadly though, the owners, the board and the hanger's on will still be there making the same poor decisions

yeah but least we will bring in shit players with reasonable wages and contract lengths as we will be pinching pennies for the foreseeable

[LCFCJohn]

21 hours ago, Terraloon said:

This comment is the reality, the perspective if you like and certainly the fear.

 

For me the first thing the club and indeed supporters has to do is accept the reality of circumstances. Moaning about the rules is futile if the other stakeholders won’t vote for or indeed see the need for change that’s one thing  but the fact that we now have a government regulator now in situ further stifles ambition if anyone thinks that clubs are going to be allowed or indeed able to “ take financial risks” as in the past then they are in for a rude awakening.

 

I wont compare how LCFc are run compared to say Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal etc  but clearly there has to be a realistic understanding that these supposed big six have huge revenues compared to Leicester and any club that tries to break into the higher echelons of football has to accept the simple fact for as long as FFP or whatever the respective domestic leagues call their version is in place challengers that emerge will be short term challengers.. in other words short term gain but undoubtedly longer pain.

 

The current owners got carried away and to a large degree so did the vast majority of supporters. The club now has to face up to the reality of its situation but for me the damage is so deep , so potentially damaging I am not sure a change of ownership is the answer the reality is that the ownership& the supporters have to accept that change is going to have to happen and that  mean pain .

 

Just finally on a change of ownership be careful what you wish for because yes change is needed but often change fails to deliver the benefits that those calling for expect.

 

 

Sorry but you have undone some good and knowledgable stuff in that post with the ending. The old be careful what you wish for KP cult tagline.

 

What if my wish is for us just to be a sensible run club going forward, with footballing people in the right roles. A strong culture around the club where effort is expected as a bare minimum? 
 

Of course all the issues won’t go away if we changed owners tomorrow. Look at Sheffield Wednesday, even though Chansiri is out the picture, they have been given a further deduction only yesterday. 
 

But they have hope. They can now see the light at the end of the tunnel and although they will still be on a downwards trajectory on the pitch in the immediate future, a new owner can come in and start doing things right and slowly repair that damage. 
 

We are still heading further and further into the dark tunnel, with no light left behind us and none ahead. Our owner will not fix this. People need to get that cuddly fuzzy notion out of their heads. We face administration and possibly going out of business if he stays. A change of ownership would give us a chance even though it will be a slow road.

Edited 2 December 2025 by LCFCJohn

[Terraloon]

2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

Sorry but you have undone some good and knowledgable stuff in that post with the ending. The old be careful what you wish for KP cult tagline.

 

What if my wish is for us just to be a sensible run club going forward, with footballing people in the right roles. A strong culture around the club where effort is expected as a bare minimum? 
 

Of course all the issues won’t go away if we changed owners tomorrow. Look at Sheffield Wednesday, even though Chansiri is out the picture, they have been given a further deduction only yesterday. 
 

But they have hope. They can now see the light at the end of the tunnel and although they will still be on a downwards trajectory on the pitch in the immediate future, a new owner can come in and start doing things right and slowly repair that damage. 
 

We are still heading further and further into the dark tunnel, with no light left behind us and none ahead. Our owner will not fix this. People need to get that cuddly fuzzy notion out of their heads. We face administration and possibly going out of business if he stays. A change of ownership would give us a chance even though it will be a slow road.

Yes the be careful what you wish for is a tagline and I stand by the wording but perhaps need to explain what I fear in the context of LCFC

 

The money owed to KP, the fact that that company own effectively all the assets, the ground, the bulk of debt   etc means that any insolvency event won’t be a simple off with old on with the new it would be highly likely that administration wouldn’t just lead to” here’s a points deduction off you go” it could well be that the administration would be hostile and far from being able to trade through administration the only option for a administrator would be insolvency and yes a phoenix club could be an option but in my mind that would be the end of a top football club in Leicester .

 

Putting more meat in the bone the biggest income streams currently are parachute payments and to a lesser degree transfer fee instalments but those have already been spent and any future  payments are subject to a charge meaning they couldn’t be used to fund administration and that fact won’t change in this or subsequent seasons.

 

I can’t be arsed to look it up but KP have the ability to call in debt by way of 12 month notice. They I would imagine realise that the money they are owed can’t realistically  be repaid nor I would imagine would any individual/ entity would see value of note in a debt ridden, asset poor club yes with potential but there a few of them but their finances and assets probably are less constrained.

 

As I said in my earlier post there has to be change if there isn’t then the doom loop will continue 

[Raj]

The way the club is we would struggle to get out the league.

Dont forget in the next year the whole team(Hopefully!) will be much different to the mavericks now and it will take time to bed the new younger players in.

[Mike Oxlong]

On the present recruitment model we would sign a number of overpaid, over the hill, average at best benchwarmers from the lower reaches of the championship to spearhead our drive for League Two 

[LCFCJohn]

7 hours ago, Terraloon said:

Yes the be careful what you wish for is a tagline and I stand by the wording but perhaps need to explain what I fear in the context of LCFC

 

The money owed to KP, the fact that that company own effectively all the assets, the ground, the bulk of debt   etc means that any insolvency event won’t be a simple off with old on with the new it would be highly likely that administration wouldn’t just lead to” here’s a points deduction off you go” it could well be that the administration would be hostile and far from being able to trade through administration the only option for a administrator would be insolvency and yes a phoenix club could be an option but in my mind that would be the end of a top football club in Leicester .

 

Putting more meat in the bone the biggest income streams currently are parachute payments and to a lesser degree transfer fee instalments but those have already been spent and any future  payments are subject to a charge meaning they couldn’t be used to fund administration and that fact won’t change in this or subsequent seasons.

 

I can’t be arsed to look it up but KP have the ability to call in debt by way of 12 month notice. They I would imagine realise that the money they are owed can’t realistically  be repaid nor I would imagine would any individual/ entity would see value of note in a debt ridden, asset poor club yes with potential but there a few of them but their finances and assets probably are less constrained.

 

As I said in my earlier post there has to be change if there isn’t then the doom loop will continue 

I wasn’t calling you a KPFC fan by the way, but that line has been hijacked by them so not a great one to use.

 

Regarding the ground and assets, wasn’t that the case with Chansiri also? I know the obviously different between the clubs are the sheer magnitude of the finances involved within the club so I don’t pretend to understand much about it or think it would just be simply fine. 
 

What do you think the solution is? You are definitely quite knowledgeable about the subject compared to most and seem quite impartial (I.e not KPFC cult nor ready to riot against them).

 

My view is, we are heading for administration under Aiyawatt. He has clearly learned nothing and I don’t see better decision making ever happening. So are we better off staggering along until we get there or if he sells to a new owner? I think we have arrived at the point where 95% + of potential options would be better than the ownership now. 

[Ian Nacho]

Very alarming interview from James saying "you must be out of your mind to think we'll be playing in League One next year".  Whilst I'm willing to take it with a pinch of salt with him being a loan player, the fact he's said it highlights the type of mentality we're working with. Deluded. 

[Pita]

On 02/12/2025 at 08:37, Mike Oxlong said:

On the present recruitment model we would sign a number of overpaid, over the hill, average at best benchwarmers from the lower reaches of the championship to spearhead our drive for League Two 

The Rudkin way 

[BigC]

deffo not, happy to take 16th right now tho. cba for any more of this season already.

[foxinsox]

L1 wasnt so bad last time. Indeed after a few Championshipbseasons it was great to be winning again and regaining our Mojo.

 

Winning L1 was the turning point that drove us up the league.