Dr The Singh Posted 12 January 2009 Posted 12 January 2009 Nothing much changes, does it? Very cheeky indeed!! Answer to your question....on both sides!!!
Ultra Posted 14 January 2009 Posted 14 January 2009 Bump. Because some folk aren't allowed to forget..
Suffolk_fox Posted 14 January 2009 Posted 14 January 2009 I certainly don't condone the killing of civillians, especially children. But Hamas cannot criticise Israel for indiscriminate/accidental killing, as they fire rockets and mortars daily into Israel. And they still are. Neither party can take the moral high ground here. As an interesting aside, before the creation of the Nation of Israel, Muslims and Jews lived peacefully side by side.... It was the UN which created the nation, and it was against the wishes of many at the time....
Ultra Posted 18 January 2009 Posted 18 January 2009 The old thread was closed. This one dates from 2006 and Israel's war on Lebanon.
Guest Bilo Posted 14 November 2012 Posted 14 November 2012 The Great Tweet War of 2012 has begun. I await some wag doing a 1939 version between @winstonchurchill and @officialhitler.
Guest Bilo Posted 14 November 2012 Posted 14 November 2012 The IDF are actually Tweeting a blow-by-blow account of the military campaign. It really is quite warped.
Guest MattP Posted 15 November 2012 Posted 15 November 2012 The IDF are actually Tweeting a blow-by-blow account of the military campaign. It really is quite warped. I've been followed by loads of Jewish military stuff over the last year or so. No idea why.
BoneDog Posted 27 November 2012 Posted 27 November 2012 Let's hope that Israel and the US don't get their way. Highly doubtful though. I'm sure they have a 'trigger event' planned once they've done with making sure Syria is no longer a threat to that plan. Looks like a marvellous place. It actually looks just as smart as most of Britain. Not for long though eh.
Danizen Posted 27 November 2012 Posted 27 November 2012 Where did this thread come from? I thought this was a banned topic or something. It made me sick, last week seeing those Lazio fans with Free Palestine banners and Palestinian flags. These people use the plight of the Palestinians as a vehicle for their disgusting Anti-semitism and it sends out the wrong message.
Dr The Singh Posted 27 November 2012 Posted 27 November 2012 Both as bad as each other, for differing reasons!
Saladin Posted 27 November 2012 Posted 27 November 2012 Israel are a law upon themselves, they answer to no one. They steal land, build illegal settlements, have broke 65 UN Resolutions & amazingly, the US still arm them with the most sophisticated weaponary! Iraq broke 2 UN Resolutions and got bombed to high heaven by the 'coalition of the willing'! Crazy world we live in eh!
Danizen Posted 27 November 2012 Posted 27 November 2012 Israel are a law upon themselves, they answer to no one. They steal land, build illegal settlements, have broke 65 UN Resolutions & amazingly, the US still arm them with the most sophisticated weaponary! Iraq broke 2 UN Resolutions and got bombed to high heaven by the 'coalition of the willing'! Crazy world we live in eh! It's scandalous. 99% of media coverage is biased making Israel seem like the victims reporting every single Hamas missile strike but making the IDF's seem like isolated retaliatons.
Parafox Posted 27 November 2012 Posted 27 November 2012 Israel are a law upon themselves, they answer to no one. They steal land, build illegal settlements, have broke 65 UN Resolutions & amazingly, the US still arm them with the most sophisticated weaponary! Iraq broke 2 UN Resolutions and got bombed to high heaven by the 'coalition of the willing'! Crazy world we live in eh! How many very wealthy Jewish people live in the USA and have large businesses, pay huge amounts of tax and have massive influence over government officials? Apart from which the Americans need Israel on-side if there is to be any military "influence" in other middle eastern countries.
Saladin Posted 27 November 2012 Posted 27 November 2012 How many very wealthy Jewish people live in the USA and have large businesses, pay huge amounts of tax and have massive influence over government officials? Apart from which the Americans need Israel on-side if there is to be any military "influence" in other middle eastern countries. It's the Zionist lobby in the states who are the true puppeteers, very powerful. Israel is nothing more than an extention of America's hegemony. Owen Jones on the recent Gaza bombardment: Excellent watch.
Guest Bilo Posted 27 November 2012 Posted 27 November 2012 How many very wealthy Jewish people live in the USA and have large businesses, pay huge amounts of tax and have massive influence over government officials? Apart from which the Americans need Israel on-side if there is to be any military "influence" in other middle eastern countries. Be careful not to confuse Zionism and Judaism. Some of the most powerful and fervent Zionists are Christian, agnostic or atheist. Similarly, many influential Jews such as Noam Chomsky are anti-Zionist. Zionism is at its heart a political movement rather than a religious one.
Parafox Posted 27 November 2012 Posted 27 November 2012 Maybe this is also a factor... Americans are pretty evangelical and God-fearing... This, from The Book of Revelations "and Jesus said.I will bless those who bless Israel.and I will curse those who curse Israel
Guest Bilo Posted 27 November 2012 Posted 27 November 2012 Maybe this is also a factor... Americans are pretty evangelical and God-fearing... This, from The Book of Revelations "and Jesus said.I will bless those who bless Israel.and I will curse those who curse Israel Absolutely it is. I believe, but can't be arsed to look it up, that many evangelicals do not think that the Second Coming can happen if the Jews are not in the Promised Land. This may be another reason for the unquestioning support of Israel by the Christian Right.
Rincewind Posted 28 November 2012 Posted 28 November 2012 Right or wrong doesn't come into it then? I'm not taking sides. It's just that the notion the American Government base their foreign policy on a few words in an ancient book is somewhat frightening.
Parafox Posted 28 November 2012 Posted 28 November 2012 Right or wrong doesn't come into it then? I'm not taking sides. It's just that the notion the American Government base their foreign policy on a few words in an ancient book is somewhat frightening. You're missing the point
breadandcheese Posted 28 November 2012 Posted 28 November 2012 Be careful not to confuse Zionism and Judaism. Some of the most powerful and fervent Zionists are Christian, agnostic or atheist. Similarly, many influential Jews such as Noam Chomsky are anti-Zionist. Zionism is at its heart a political movement rather than a religious one. Why don't you just call a spade, a spade, rather than contextualise it? There's a word for the belief that a shadowy Jewish body/people control foreign countries.
breadandcheese Posted 28 November 2012 Posted 28 November 2012 It's scandalous. 99% of media coverage is biased making Israel seem like the victims reporting every single Hamas missile strike but making the IDF's seem like isolated retaliatons. Really? You watch a different media to me. Every single rocket attack by both sides was covered during the Israeli military action. There were reporters in Gaza and Israel reporting on events. If the media reported all rocket attacks by Hamas as you claim, then we would have heard of rockets being fired from Gaza every single month of 2012. The only time it made the news was when it flared up.
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