Monk Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Source Basically some new laws have just come in which say "Under the Human Tissue Act, people will have a legal right for their wishes to be followed, meaning doctors could over-rule relatives' objections."[bBC] As a kidney transplant recipient in the past I think this is great news as it will mean fewer people suffering on Dialysis. Also I dont see why relatives should be able to over ride the wishes of the deceased. However they think this will increase supply by around 10%, which is not going to solve the problem of shortage. There's been a lot of discussion about if organ donation shoult be on an opt out scheme - so there is assumed consent unless the person has an 'opt out card'. I am much more in favour of this. What are your opinions. I know that Dialysis is frickin awful, and would not wish it on anyone. Anything which decreases the number of people on it has got to be a step in the right direction (right NW?!?) Oh, and get a Donor card, you never know what the Pompey fans are going to throw at you next time we're at Fratton Park!
Jon the Hat Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Source Basically some new laws have just come in which say "Under the Human Tissue Act, people will have a legal right for their wishes to be followed, meaning doctors could over-rule relatives' objections."[bBC] As a kidney transplant recipient in the past I think this is great news as it will mean fewer people suffering on Dialysis. Also I dont see why relatives should be able to over ride the wishes of the deceased. However they think this will increase supply by around 10%, which is not going to solve the problem of shortage. There's been a lot of discussion about if organ donation shoult be on an opt out scheme - so there is assumed consent unless the person has an 'opt out card'. I am much more in favour of this. What are your opinions. I know that Dialysis is frickin awful, and would not wish it on anyone. Anything which decreases the number of people on it has got to be a step in the right direction (right NW?!?) Oh, and get a Donor card, you never know what the Pompey fans are going to throw at you next time we're at Fratton Park! I ilike the opt out idea. Once you're gone you're gone, if you can help someone else great. That said I don't like the idea of medical research use, so really I thinnk just for transplant.
Head Honcho Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Personally unless you opt out I think all organs should be made available for transplant, that way people who object can still choose not to donate their organs.
stez Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Personally unless you opt out I think all organs should be made available for transplant, that way people who object can still choose not to donate their organs. exactly how i feel. the people who don't want their organs donated tend to feel more strongly about it than people who don't mind, or never really thought about it. for example; i've not got a donation card, but i keep meaning to get one. whereas a JW will feel so strongly about it they will actively get themselves an 'opt out' card. does that make sense? i lost myself on several occations!
Head Honcho Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 I ilike the opt out idea. Once you're gone you're gone, if you can help someone else great. That said I don't like the idea of medical research use, so really I thinnk just for transplant. I'll go along with that and I'd also strongly object to the organs being made available for monetary gain!
Strokes Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 I'll go along with that and I'd also strongly object to the organs being made available for monetary gain! Nobody can have my organs, they will rot with my stinking corpse
Thracian Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 I thought this thread was something MDV might have been interested in.
Alexikokopops Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 I have a Donor card, don't think I'll be needing my kidneys, heart. eyes or anything when I'm dead. Take them. Also a registered Bone Marrow donor, except they do that when you're alive. Sweet.
golden gordon Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 what if i am re-incarnated will my new form be short of a few bits and bobs i'd want a guarantee that i'd get all new organs in my next life
Dr The Singh Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 what if i am re-incarnated will my new form be short of a few bits and bobs i'd want a guarantee that i'd get all new organs in my next life No change there then GG!!!
Monk Posted 31 August 2006 Author Posted 31 August 2006 Surely that doesnt apply. If you were a cow reincarneted as a Human you wouldnt have 4 stomachs would you?? Food for thought...
golden gordon Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Surely that doesnt apply. If you were a cow reincarneted as a Human you wouldnt have 4 stomachs would you?? Food for thought... what about jimmy fivebellies
Tomassi Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 im pretty happy about this. My girlfriend would be dead if it wasn't for a donor. nuf said
cisono Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 May sound strange, but I am against the "opt out card", as I fear doctors may be less willing to save someone who has a good liver if they need a liver for another patient (perhaps a friend of theirs). Sounds far fetched? They already sometimes take out the wrong kidney and it's not even because of organ donating.
golden gordon Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 May sound strange, but I am against the "opt out card", as I fear doctors may be less willing to save someone who has a good liver if they need a liver for another patient (perhaps a friend of theirs). Sounds far fetched? They already sometimes take out the wrong kidney and it's not even because of organ donating. i've heard garages sometimes do things like that with gearboxes, exhausts and things like that, but i've not heard of hospitals using this spare parts pinching policy
cisono Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 i've heard garages sometimes do things like that with gearboxes, exhausts and things like that, but i've not heard of hospitals using this spare parts pinching policy Apparently in China they take organs from prisoners (not sure if only from political prisoners or also regular ones).
golden gordon Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Apparently in China they take organs from prisoners (not sure if only from political prisoners or also regular ones). i think they take away mouth organs in case they start playing " nobody know the trouble i know " in the afro american style
cisono Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 i've heard garages sometimes do things like that with gearboxes, exhausts and things like that, but i've not heard of hospitals using this spare parts pinching policy Just because you don't hear about something, it doesn't mean it aint' happening!
lookwhaticando Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 I don't think I'm allowed to offer up my components when I pop me cloggs over here. They don't want my blood because I lived in Britain too long... so I can't imagine they'd want much to do with my other particulars either.
golden gordon Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Just because you don't hear about something, it doesn't mean it aint' happening! sorry if you missed the intended humour with regards to your recent vehicular trouble
Daggers Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Nobody can have my organs, they will rot with my stinking corpse I think some have started already
Nationwider Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Source Basically some new laws have just come in which say "Under the Human Tissue Act, people will have a legal right for their wishes to be followed, meaning doctors could over-rule relatives' objections."[bBC] As a kidney transplant recipient in the past I think this is great news as it will mean fewer people suffering on Dialysis. Also I dont see why relatives should be able to over ride the wishes of the deceased. However they think this will increase supply by around 10%, which is not going to solve the problem of shortage. There's been a lot of discussion about if organ donation shoult be on an opt out scheme - so there is assumed consent unless the person has an 'opt out card'. I am much more in favour of this. What are your opinions. I know that Dialysis is frickin awful, and would not wish it on anyone. Anything which decreases the number of people on it has got to be a step in the right direction (right NW?!?) Oh, and get a Donor card, you never know what the Pompey fans are going to throw at you next time we're at Fratton Park! I can only endorse what Monk has already written. I can add that, unfortunately, an opt-out scheme for organ donation is unlikely to arise for a long time, despite growing calls for it to happen. It's a cross-party, cross-cultural debate that will take up a huge amount of parliamentary time to discuss properly and no-one is apparently willing to try at the moment. The Human Tissue Act is a good thing. As Monk says, from midnight your family cannot overrule your wishes. I heard a really sad soundbite on the radio today - a family speaking about how they had blocked the donation of their deceased relative's organs. They didn't give a reason, moral, religious or otherwise. Straight after that, the station played an interview with a young woman needing an urgent double lung transplant. I respect the views of people who don't want their organs removed after death, even if I can't ever agree with them. At least those who do want to donate won't be hindered by meddling relatives anymore. I've had two kidney transplants, aged 19 and 25, and they've made a massive, unbelieveable difference to my quality of life. I'm probably in the lucky 5% in that I'm young(ish), fit(ish) and healthy, and managed dialysis tolerably well for a few years - most people in need of a transplant of one sort or another aren't as lucky. Link
Daggers Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 Give my body to medical science if medical science will have me They can take my lungs and kidneys but my heart belongs to Daphne.
Tomassi Posted 31 August 2006 Posted 31 August 2006 I can only endorse what Monk has already written. I can add that, unfortunately, an opt-out scheme for organ donation is unlikely to arise for a long time, despite growing calls for it to happen. It's a cross-party, cross-cultural debate that will take up a huge amount of parliamentary time to discuss properly and no-one is apparently willing to try at the moment. The Human Tissue Act is a good thing. As Monk says, from midnight your family cannot overrule your wishes. I heard a really sad soundbite on the radio today - a family speaking about how they had blocked the donation of their deceased relative's organs. They didn't give a reason, moral, religious or otherwise. Straight after that, the station played an interview with a young woman needing an urgent double lung transplant. I respect the views of people who don't want their organs removed after death, even if I can't ever agree with them. At least those who do want to donate won't be hindered by meddling relatives anymore. I've had two kidney transplants, aged 19 and 25, and they've made a massive, unbelieveable difference to my quality of life. I'm probably in the lucky 5% in that I'm young(ish), fit(ish) and healthy, and managed dialysis tolerably well for a few years - most people in need of a transplant of one sort or another aren't as lucky. Link Did the kidney from when you were 19 only last 6 years then buddy? My girlfriend had to have hers done when she was 7, and 14 years later it is still going despite there being trouble with it recently. docs reckon it should last til shes 40/45 ish
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