Glen_lcfc Posted 27 November 2006 Posted 27 November 2006 Yes I heard that brillliant stuff however if we are talking personal favorites then its gotta be Iwan!
Kilworthfox Posted 27 November 2006 Posted 27 November 2006 Yes I heard that brillliant stuff however if we are talking personal favorites then its gotta be Iwan! sorry mate Walshy over Roberts any day of the week
Louise Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Just heard on the news that the police are investigating the HT trouble. Probably end up fined and/or banned from PP next season.
lcfc_jme Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Just heard on the news that the police are investigating the HT trouble. Probably end up fined and/or banned from PP next season. I trust that we'll end up getting both a fine and a ban. I know that a lot of the stuff that happened in the concourses was caused by drunken and uncivilised (and both parts) behaviour. That on its own would see us receive a fine or a ban. But when you add it to the fact that some chairs got smashed as well, it probably does mean that we won't be allowed to travel there next season.
Thracian Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 I did warn there might be consequences. I'd hoped it would die a death when it wasn't all over the papers but no such luck by the sound of it...
Dr The Singh Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 I did warn there might be consequences. I'd hoped it would die a death when it wasn't all over the papers but no such luck by the sound of it... Obviously a official complaint has been made and hence the boys in blue will have to investigate. Won't make light reading and may take the shine of MM entrance!!!!
gatesheadfox Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Just heard on the news that the police are investigating the HT trouble. Probably end up fined and/or banned from PP next season. well i am hoping it is punishment for those who tried stealing and fighting and not the innocent who get punished. a ban from PP would definately be the latter
ossieram Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 well i am hoping it is punishment for those who tried stealing and fighting and not the innocent who get punished. a ban from PP would definately be the latter I agree it would be a shame if the normal fan was punished for the actions of a few idiots. But how many so called normal fans stood and laughed when the seats were ripped out and how many tried to stop them or report them to the police or stewards. Quite a few have condemed those that they saw doing the damage but did nothing about it at the time. Hopefull there will be a way in which your club can be made to pay for the damage and pherhaps the idiots that caused it will realise they have cost Leicester city.
gatesheadfox Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 I agree it would be a shame if the normal fan was punished for the actions of a few idiots. But how many so called normal fans stood and laughed when the seats were ripped out and how many tried to stop them or report them to the police or stewards i agree some people could have stood up to the people who were out of order but in response to that these people may have in turn got a good battering and on top of that seemed to be violent themselves and arrests or banning orders may have been the result. i was in the concourse at half time and was one of those towards the back singing who frankly had little idea of what was going on apart from singing and the police standing around while the bar was shut. can't really comment on what went on at the front of the crowd of fans but can assure people there was a CCTV camera pointing straight towards that corner. hopefully this can show conclusive evidence of who the idiots were and who was just among them, i know for a fact there were plenty people (even close to the scene) who would have been oblivious to anything but alot of singing and noise and a large police presence. as for smashing seats, what that was in aid of i havent a clue
Louise Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Two Pcs injured at football match The fight took place beneath Pride Park's South Stand Two police officers were hurt while handling a disturbance at the match between Derby County and Leicester City, the BBC has learned. Trouble broke out at half time in a concourse beneath Pride Park's South Stand after a bar was closed following a dispute over drinks. About 1,200 Leicester fans were in the area and stewards called for help to deal with the disturbance. Police with batons arrived and about 50 away fans were directly involved. One officer suffered a broken hand and the other suffered minor injuries, the police said. Six people were arrested and police are studying CCTV footage to see if more arrests are warranted. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/6191758.stm
Louise Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Seems its worse than we thought, they won't ban us, they won't fine us, they're just going to take away the alcohol
Floating Fox Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Clearly shows what went on You can see on bloke going mad with a tank top being restrained by his mate later on he was battered by the police.This does show the leicester fans advincing at the police and would put the blame with us for this particular incident but the derby fans were still OTT and handled all situatuon's badly. What may I ask were they doing by standing there?
john_lcfc Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 how did a policeman break his hand??? and i imagine the minor injuries were getting hit by coins... pretty crappy report there i dont see the point in putting out a story like that.. <_<
lcfc_jme Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 how did a policeman break his hand??? and i imagine the minor injuries were getting hit by coins... pretty crappy report there i dont see the point in putting out a story like that.. <_< Punching one of the fans maybe? Nah that report isn't very good, it doesn't paint both sides of the story. To get a better idea of what the atmosphere down there was like and the events leading up to the incident, watch the video suas posted. It's quite clear on there what sort of stuff was going on.
john_lcfc Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Clearly shows what went on You can see on bloke going mad with a tank top being restrained by his mate later on he was battered by the police.This does show the leicester fans advincing at the police and would put the blame with us for this particular incident but the derby fans were still OTT and handled all situatuon's badly. What may I ask were they doing by standing there? that video shows some of the confrontations but not all of the "clashes" and/or police batering some of the fans at the front as lcfc fans surged foreward
Daggers Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 ...and pherhaps the idiots that caused it will realise they have cost Leicester city. Sadly, history tells us this is never the case...they are too stupid, and there's always apologists ready to line up and point the finger elsewhere on their behalf (as you may have noticed over the last couple of days).
Glen_lcfc Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Its a shame the police do not uderstand that just by thier very presence they were a major contributing factor
Guest Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Its a shame the police do not uderstand that just by thier very presence they were a major contributing factor Yes, they ensured that people who were probably not at Carrow Rd last night, but were likely to cause trouble, decided to spend last Saturday afternoon at Pride Park.Have you ever been to somewhere like The Den, where there is a huge police presence? Have you ever noticed how there has been very little trouble by our fans there? Or at Hillsborough? Too say the policing was OTT would have been an under-exxageration.
breadandcheese Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Its a shame the police do not uderstand that just by thier very presence they were a major contributing factor A police presence is an antagonistic? What a load of rubbish. The police were standing there, not wading in with batons. Visible policing I believe it's called, trying to act as a deterrant to would-be troublemakers. The knowledge that if you do something stupid, you are doing it in front of a number of officers. The fans in the video clip are advancing at the police. The police stood there. Clearly, the visible policing did not act as a deterrant. There were people there who were there at the game specifically to cause trouble, so no police are going to act as a detterant in that situation. That was the problem. I hope those who went to cause trouble are given banning orders and not allowed to attend football matches.
Hullfox Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Its a shame the police do not uderstand that just by thier very presence they were a major contributing factor Yeah, ban the police.
Glen_lcfc Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Yes, they ensured that people who were probably not at Carrow Rd last night, but were likely to cause trouble, decided to spend last Saturday afternoon at Pride Park. Have you ever been to somewhere like The Den, where there is a huge police presence? Have you ever noticed how there has been very little trouble by our fans there? Or at Hillsborough? Too say the policing was OTT would have been an under-exxageration. Yes I have been to Hillsborough and agree with what you are saying however I do feel that had their not been such a huge presence of police that the trouble would not have erupted as much as it did.
ossieram Posted 30 November 2006 Posted 30 November 2006 Yes I have been to Hillsborough and agree with what you are saying however I do feel that had their not been such a huge presence of police that the trouble would not have erupted as much as it did. And the idiots that tried to rob the kiosk could have got away with it
Thracian Posted 30 November 2006 Posted 30 November 2006 Yes, they ensured that people who were probably not at Carrow Rd last night, but were likely to cause trouble, decided to spend last Saturday afternoon at Pride Park. Have you ever been to somewhere like The Den, where there is a huge police presence? Have you ever noticed how there has been very little trouble by our fans there? Or at Hillsborough? Too say the policing was OTT would have been an under-exxageration. Are you spelling like that just to get Hullfox's attention?
Hullfox Posted 30 November 2006 Posted 30 November 2006 Are you spelling like that just to get Hullfox's attention? As you well know Thrach, Lisa has always got my attention, what with us being such good mates. Seems as though you're getting a bit touchy these days. Hopefully nothing I've said.
davieG Posted 30 November 2006 Posted 30 November 2006 From tonights Merc BY CIARAN FAGAN SOCIAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT 10:15 - 30 November 2006 Police are hunting a gang of thugs believed to be behind a string of violent clashes at Leicester City matches. The latest, and worst incident so far, took place at last Saturday's game at Derby County, when coins were thrown at officers as they tried to prevent the group causing trouble. Police say they want to break up the gang before the problem escalates at other matches. The group of men - who range from teenagers to men in their 40s - first came to the police's attention at the end of last season. Other incidents have included attempts to break through a barrier keeping City fans and Southampton supporters apart at the Walkers Stadium last month, and offensive chanting when QPR visited last season. The incident at Derby, which took place around a bar in the Pride Park ground, was the most violent. One officer suffered a broken finger and another was hit in the face with a coin during the stand-off with a group containing the thugs. Police say they have arrested a number of suspects, but believe others are still active. The force's football intelligence unit intends to apply for court orders which would see the troublemakers banned from the Walkers Stadium and every other league ground. Pc Andy Cox, of Leicestershire police's football intelligence unit, said: "City supporters are normally well behaved but there is a small group that has misbehaved on occasions. "We've been aware of them since last season and we've taken action against some of them. The aim is to get them banned and taken out of the equation. "It's difficult to say how many there are, maybe half a dozen who can act as catalysts and get other fans involved. "We've disrupted the Baby Squad's involvement in hooliganism and there have been no serious incidents for at least two seasons. We are concentrating on this sort of fan now, the sort who causes this kind of anti-social behaviour." Police are using surveillance techniques at games to identify the troublemakers, and use designated hooligan-spotters in and around grounds. Cliff Ginnetta, of Leicester City Supporters Club, said: "We had this reputation in the past, years ago, and we have worked hard to put it behind us. "I'm all for banning orders because we don't want this sort of people at the games." Season ticket-holder Glenn Stewart, 50, said: "I don't condone any kind of trouble-making and people like this should be excluded. "But people should remember that things are nothing like as bad as they were a few years ago." A City spokesman said: "Our away fans have a reputation of being some of the most well-respected and well-behaved supporters in the country and, in the main, are a credit to this football club. "However, we are in continual dialogue with Leicestershire police to eradicate any forms of violence. "We believe Derbyshire police have specific CCTV evidence to put the perpetrators in front of the Crown Prosecution Service and hopefully secure a conviction and/or banning orders. We do not condone any form of violence."
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