moseeds Posted 27 November 2006 Posted 27 November 2006 If you're the eagle-eyed type you might have seen the odd crane popping up around town lately! As you all know the Shires is being extended towards the river - and due to this a whole host of development is being kickstarted in the frog-island area. A new proposal for a 39-Storey tower has been put forward on Bath Lane - alongside the 2 towers already proposed earlier this year and the flats already built opposite the Holiday Inn. A petition has been started to get as much support as possible for this scheme and hence give Leicester a new Landmark to show off. Guys at the Skyscrapercity forums would really appreciate it if you can can quickly put down your name and tick a box to show your support at the following site: http://petitionthem.com/default.asp?sect=detail&pet=3594 If anything, it will definitely be a much needed development in the centre of town and as an added bonus really p*ss off nottingham council if it does get built! More details for this scheme and general development/regeneration in Leicester can be found here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=276946&page=16
davieG Posted 27 November 2006 Posted 27 November 2006 No can do I'm against, not the building but the location and the site - piss poor idea.
Leonisco Posted 27 November 2006 Posted 27 November 2006 No can do I'm against, not the building but the location and the site - piss poor idea. Agreed, there isn't really any need for it. One glass tower isn't suddenly going to make Leicester the greatest city on Earth as the council seem to think.
lookwhaticando Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Agreed, there isn't really any need for it. One glass tower isn't suddenly going to make Leicester the greatest city on Earth as the council seem to think. You need two of them. They must be tall and dome shaped. Side by side in tight formation. Ideally they should jiggle a bit in a strong wind. Oh yeah, I can see it now. What a city Leicester would be.
Daggers Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 They must be tall and dome shaped. Side by side in tight formation. Ideally they should jiggle a bit in a strong wind. If I ran a city you'd be my first appointment Lookydo, ideas like this are gold-dust. Or dynamite.
moseeds Posted 28 November 2006 Author Posted 28 November 2006 Agreed, there isn't really any need for it. One glass tower isn't suddenly going to make Leicester the greatest city on Earth as the council seem to think. It's not just the fact that its a big glass tower (the full renders and plans are not out yet so can't say regarding looks). However because of the nature of the proposal, it gives confidence to other developers to part with their cash and develop other parts of the city - rather like building the theatre in St Georges is spurring on all sorts of development in that area - for the better. I don't agree it is in the wrong place - in fact along with the shires extension the river will now become usable and accessible. The view of the cathedral from that angle is rarely seen by anyone except by a select few. The land alongside the river in town is used at present by factories more than anything else so at least a development like this (and the resulting developments) will make better use of the waterfront which at present is denied or hidden to most of the people of Leicester.
hairy Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Its amazing that a project that would improve the city, provide employment and better housing should receive such responses from users on a Leicester forum
gatesheadfox Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Its amazing that a project that would improve the city, provide employment and better housing should receive such responses from users on a Leicester forum agreed. the frog island area is awful. this sort of development could create a much nicer area with follow on projects. if anyone has been to gateshead 10 years ago and looks at how much it has changed since then purely because the millenium bridge was built will see that the potential for change is much improved.
Dr The Singh Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 agreed. the frog island area is awful. this sort of development could create a much nicer area with follow on projects. if anyone has been to gateshead 10 years ago and looks at how much it has changed since then purely because the millenium bridge was built will see that the potential for change is much improved. Agreed, the city does need more investment, I know one of the architects that's working on the city centre and various other projects in the city. All the area around Holiday Inn and the riverside area leading upto frog island is going to be transformed. Unfortunately there are question marks on how many jobs it will produce for people within the city, as many companies and investors will be moving staff etc to those locations, and people from the city will have to compete with others for those jobs!!!
OriginalRobboFOX Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Agreed, the city does need more investment, I know one of the architects that's working on the city centre and various other projects in the city. All the area around Holiday Inn and the riverside area leading upto frog island is going to be transformed. Unfortunately there are question marks on how many jobs it will produce for people within the city, as many companies and investors will be moving staff etc to those locations, and people from the city will have to compete with others for those jobs!!! I went to the residents meeting on Woodgate and all they're going to build is a marina and loads more apartments. As an estate agent myself I can tell you all now there is no way we need anymore apartments in this city. I've got loads on my books just sitting there empty, impossible to sell or too expensive to rent. We've gotten ourselves in a ridiculous situation....
hairy Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Unfortunately there are question marks on how many jobs it will produce for people within the city, as many companies and investors will be moving staff etc to those locations, and people from the city will have to compete with others for those jobs!!! Usually the planners put in a clause about local labour being used to build such developments. Including clauses on training of apprentices.
moseeds Posted 28 November 2006 Author Posted 28 November 2006 I think as more jobs get created in the city centre and if some of the prices for the flats do come down the empty flats should be no more. It all depends on the availability of good jobs.
Babylon Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 I went to the residents meeting on Woodgate and all they're going to build is a marina and loads more apartments. As an estate agent myself I can tell you all now there is no way we need anymore apartments in this city. I've got loads on my books just sitting there empty, impossible to sell or too expensive to rent. We've gotten ourselves in a ridiculous situation.... Got any nice ones up for sale at a reasonable price?
Trumpet Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 I went to the residents meeting on Woodgate and all they're going to build is a marina and loads more apartments. As an estate agent myself I can tell you all now there is no way we need anymore apartments in this city. I've got loads on my books just sitting there empty, impossible to sell or too expensive to rent. We've gotten ourselves in a ridiculous situation.... As an estate agent i thought youd recognise that although its "only" a marina and some apartments, it will encourage more development. For example, the apartments go up, the roads need sorting out in the area to accomodate, along with some shops. Then youll get restaurants, bars in the area. I was in Birmingham the other day and between the Mailbox and the ICC, there is a stretch of canal, with bars and restaurants along it, all nicely done and patioed. I was just thinking how nice it'd be to sit out having a drink / meal in the summer time there. Also, i reckon the value of property could rise in the area due to it being regenerated. Great idea if you ask me.
davieG Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 As an estate agent i thought youd recognise that although its "only" a marina and some apartments, it will encourage more development. For example, the apartments go up, the roads need sorting out in the area to accomodate, along with some shops. Then youll get restaurants, bars in the area. I was in Birmingham the other day and between the Mailbox and the ICC, there is a stretch of canal, with bars and restaurants along it, all nicely done and patioed. I was just thinking how nice it'd be to sit out having a drink / meal in the summer time there. Also, i reckon the value of property could rise in the area due to it being regenerated. Great idea if you ask me. Regeneration's fine and I'm all for it, but these sky scrapers will black out all the sunshine on the canal and over power any sensible developments, I can't say I'd want to sit at the canal side having a coffee totally blacked out by a 39 story building.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 We did a bit on the regeneration of Leicester at uni. That was four years ago. They started yet? That was an unnecessarily inflammatory way of putting it but question stands.
Trumpet Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 We did a bit on the regeneration of Leicester at uni. That was four years ago. They started yet? That was an unnecessarily inflammatory way of putting it but question stands. Some bloke came in to college from the East Midlands RDA and shown us a presentation of how much money has been put into the city and whats going on. So far its major buildings getting done, like the Theatre, Science park and The Shires.. I think he said a few billion has been put into the city. He also said Leicester have had given more money than Manchester have in redevelopment.
Lord Nibblington Posted 28 November 2006 Posted 28 November 2006 Some bloke came in to college from the East Midlands RDA and shown us a presentation of how much money has been put into the city and whats going on. So far its major buildings getting done, like the Theatre, Science park and The Shires.. I think he said a few billion has been put into the city. He also said Leicester have had given more money than Manchester have in redevelopment. They've definitely invested money in roadworks. Lots and lots of bloody roadworks. Including digging roads up just to re lay them with traffic lights. Which cause more traffic. Yay!
Ultra Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Its amazing that a project that would improve the city, provide employment and better housing should receive such responses from users on a Leicester forum Not really THAT amazing, when you look at some of the comments on the football forums... By the way, I know some of the folk who will decide on this scheme, and they seem really keen on it!
The People's Hero Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 There is more regen in Leic than any other city someone told me last night. More cranes than anywhere else. I find this hard to believe as lots goes on in outer London etc... but hey, who am I to argue, I live in neither. Let's build the fu cker. That'll show 'em.
The People's Hero Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Its amazing that a project that would improve the city, provide employment and better housing should receive such responses from users on a Leicester forum Agreed.
lookwhaticando Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 Fact of life - not everything will be considered an 'improvement' by everyone. As appealing as city improvement and large-scale new employment are, not everyone agrees all the time - Heathrow Terminal Five comes to mind.
Leonisco Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 As an estate agent myself I can tell you all now there is no way we need anymore apartments in this city. I've got loads on my books just sitting there empty, impossible to sell or too expensive to rent. We've gotten ourselves in a ridiculous situation.... Exactly, all these "luxury apartments" being built aren't needed in a city like Leicester - yes there is some degree of affluence here but the way they're springing up everywhere is so pointless, where do they think this is, Knightsbridge? There is a desperate shortage of council housing in this city at the moment, I think I read somewhere that there's 20,000 people on the waiting list. That is an absolute disgrace - it's like our own city council couldn't give a fook about the poorer people in Leicester, all they're bothered about is providing for the rich. Also, "apartment" is such a pretentious word, why can't they call them flats, for fock's sake.
hairy Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 There is a desperate shortage of council housing in this city at the moment, I think I read somewhere that there's 20,000 people on the waiting list. That is an absolute disgrace - it's like our own city council couldn't give a fook about the poorer people in Leicester, all they're bothered about is providing for the rich. The Council have no funds for building new homes. The funds go to the Housing Associations.
Head Honcho Posted 29 November 2006 Posted 29 November 2006 I went to the residents meeting on Woodgate and all they're going to build is a marina and loads more apartments. As an estate agent myself I can tell you all now there is no way we need anymore apartments in this city. I've got loads on my books just sitting there empty, impossible to sell or too expensive to rent. We've gotten ourselves in a ridiculous situation.... So the problem isn't that we have too many, they're just over-priced mainly due might I add to your own profession over-pricing them in the first place! Get your landlords to drop their rents, you lower your fees and maybe just maybe they won't be empty for much longer. It's not rocket science ffs
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