davieG Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 Stuart Pearce has hit out at today's young players for being more interested in fancy cars than football. Pearce told the story of a player who he recently asked, "Would you rather have a Ferrari or an England cap?" "He told me 'well, definitely a Ferrari because they are fantastic, aren't they?" said the Manchester City manager. "Thats just alien to me." Pearce offered the anecdote after hearing of Lucas Neill's decision to move to West Ham after the Londion club offered him a higher wage than Liverpool. "If you've got a choice of going to Liverpool or West Ham and the wages are exactly the same, for footballing reasons you might decide to go to Liverpool," continued Pearce. "That's why West Ham have probably offered more money to someone like Lucas Neill to try and tempt the player there. "What I would say to any player is go for footballing reasons only." While Pearce did point out that moves like Neill's were still the exception rather than the rule, he believes that it is typical of the attitude players now have. "We are not talking about the difference between poverty and extreme wealth. We are talking about extreme wealth to extreme wealth, so there isn't a great deal of contrast," he complained. The City manager is famous for rejecting a move to Manchester United when he was a player at Nottingham Forest and has been praising two of his young stars for rejecting big-money moves this week. "To be fair, two of my young players have come out this week and said, for footballing reasons, they want to be here playing and that's pleasing to see." The two players in question - Joey Barton and Micah Richards - have both been linked with moves away from Eastlands but this week came out and pledged their future to the club. At the risk of alienating the Eastlands faithful Pearce also came out and praised Manchester United star Paul Scholes for his attitude towards the game. "If you look across the road to the likes of Scholesy, he's a shining light to any young aspiring footballer. Play football, concentrate on what you're doing, look after your family, keep your head down and your mouth shut. And that's all Paul Scholes does."
Thracian Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 Provocative question. If you play for England there's no taking it off you. It's there in the record books, it's on film, it's there in your mind. And why would someone not pick you for England because you own a Ferrari? As my wife would say, it's only a car - and in practical ways a fairly useless one. The "Cap" is just a momento of a great day in your life really. If you keep it at home it's a magnet for thieves. If you have it placed in a museum then you don't have the cap anyway. Altogether the momento is just that. I've never played for England but every trophy I've won in various sports has been consigned to the bin. They gather dust and are memories for me not for my family, friends and guests. I don't need them to remember the good times or the funny times. So I'd take the Ferrari. I've have some fun in that. Or a decent go-kart, or a jet-ski, even a pair of roller skates. I can do sod-all with a cap except wear it and that's hardly appropriate with an England Cap. Besides I've got a cap.
Maybes Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 Stuart pearce is a legend and he is exactly right. However I am never going to be a professional footballer so a ferrari if you please
JoeyB Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 I'd rather play for England, easy. same as dont you get money for playing for england to?
lildave3 Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 same as dont you get money for playing for england to? Does it matter? Surely the pride of playing for your country should come before money, or anything else for that matter. It is the ultimate honour in football, or at least should be.
JoeyB Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 Does it matter? Surely the pride of playing for your country should come before money, or anything else for that matter. It is the ultimate honour in football, or at least should be. just thinking if you played for england and got paid you could get a ferrari but i would play for free tbh
davieG Posted 19 January 2007 Author Posted 19 January 2007 Provocative question.If you play for England there's no taking it off you. It's there in the record books, it's on film, it's there in your mind. And why would someone not pick you for England because you own a Ferrari? As my wife would say, it's only a car - and in practical ways a fairly useless one. The "Cap" is just a momento of a great day in your life really. If you keep it at home it's a magnet for thieves. If you have it placed in a museum then you don't have the cap anyway. Altogether the momento is just that. I've never played for England but every trophy I've won in various sports has been consigned to the bin. They gather dust and are memories for me not for my family, friends and guests. I don't need them to remember the good times or the funny times. So I'd take the Ferrari. I've have some fun in that. Or a decent go-kart, or a jet-ski, even a pair of roller skates. I can do sod-all with a cap except wear it and that's hardly appropriate with an England Cap. Besides I've got a cap. The choice is really about playing for England or having a Ferrari, so would you really prefer the car to playing for England?
Milky Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 It's a discrace that a young footballer should come out with such a comment, but it's clearly a sign of the times. Thick idiots with too much too soon
Simi Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 Does it matter? Surely the pride of playing for your country should come before money, or anything else for that matter. It is the ultimate honour in football, or at least should be. Very true. Too much money for the players now they probably forget they can even play International football
Thracian Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 The choice is really about playing for England or having a Ferrari, so would you really prefer the car to playing for England? It depends on the reasons for having to make the choice. I've walked away from several important things on a matter of principle. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to others but I've no regrets.
filbertway Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 It depends on the reasons for having to make the choice. I've walked away from several important things on a matter of principle. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to others but I've no regrets. Car or play for england though? I would rather play for england than have the car, Stuart Pearce, what a man
vanfox12 Posted 19 January 2007 Posted 19 January 2007 Car or play for england though? I would rather play for england than have the car, Stuart Pearce, what a man But if you did get to play for England, how would you want to be remembered. A legend like Moore, Shilton and Banks or a one cap wonder?
Thracian Posted 20 January 2007 Posted 20 January 2007 But if you did get to play for England, how would you want to be remembered. A legend like Moore, Shilton and Banks or a one cap wonder? Having rifled loads of shots at Pete Shilton as a kid you can imagine how high his accomplishments were to me and his legendary status was/is richly deserved. He worked tirelessly for everything he ever achieved as a goalkeeper. I'd have wanted to be remembered for creating things. People thought me too small for a centre-forward - so they stuck me out in some space and let me create things. I didn't mind. It saved me getting whacked so much. But I never dreamed about England. All I ever wanted was to play football like Davie Gibson. It is hard to describe how good he was compared with the midfielders at Leicester today - or indeed any other Championship clubs. Leicester were a quality top division side at the time and he was a little magician who could prise open any defence in the country. Legend? One-cap wonder? I'd have settled for one day of being as good as Gibbo. Some chance!
Manwell Pablo Posted 20 January 2007 Posted 20 January 2007 Stuart Pearce has hit out at today's young players for being more interested in fancy cars than football. Pearce told the story of a player who he recently asked, "Would you rather have a Ferrari or an England cap?" "He told me 'well, definitely a Ferrari because they are fantastic, aren't they?" said the Manchester City manager. "Thats just alien to me." Pearce offered the anecdote after hearing of Lucas Neill's decision to move to West Ham after the Londion club offered him a higher wage than Liverpool. "If you've got a choice of going to Liverpool or West Ham and the wages are exactly the same, for footballing reasons you might decide to go to Liverpool," continued Pearce. "That's why West Ham have probably offered more money to someone like Lucas Neill to try and tempt the player there. "What I would say to any player is go for footballing reasons only." While Pearce did point out that moves like Neill's were still the exception rather than the rule, he believes that it is typical of the attitude players now have. "We are not talking about the difference between poverty and extreme wealth. We are talking about extreme wealth to extreme wealth, so there isn't a great deal of contrast," he complained. The City manager is famous for rejecting a move to Manchester United when he was a player at Nottingham Forest and has been praising two of his young stars for rejecting big-money moves this week. "To be fair, two of my young players have come out this week and said, for footballing reasons, they want to be here playing and that's pleasing to see." The two players in question - Joey Barton and Micah Richards - have both been linked with moves away from Eastlands but this week came out and pledged their future to the club. At the risk of alienating the Eastlands faithful Pearce also came out and praised Manchester United star Paul Scholes for his attitude towards the game. "If you look across the road to the likes of Scholesy, he's a shining light to any young aspiring footballer. Play football, concentrate on what you're doing, look after your family, keep your head down and your mouth shut. And that's all Paul Scholes does." Dunno, confusing question. If someone walked in now and asked me if I wanted to play for England or have a Ferrari I'd take the car, I'm no where near good enough to play for England, I'd just look an idoit and get ripped apart by the Mirror the day after like most of the shit players that only get a couple of caps. If I actually had the talent obviously I'd attempt to get in the England side and stay there and that would take priority over anything else.
lookwhaticando Posted 20 January 2007 Posted 20 January 2007 But I can't drive or play football I could teach you. ---------- A professional footballer good enough to play for England would certainly be earning enough money to buy a bloody Ferrari, so it's not as if picking the Ferrari gets you anywhere. Why pick just the Ferrari when you could have the cap and the Ferrari? Just shows you that more and more of the newer generations of footballers couldn't really give a toss about the football any more. It ought to be every players dream to play at the top level of the sport? So what if you were sh/t? You don't say "I was once capped by my country, but I don't like to talk about it". Whether you played well or not, the fact is you were capped by your country. That is to say, somebody thought you were good enough to represent your country. The pride and passion has been sucked out of national teams. Ours least ways. It's made worse when top teams have to play little island nations with less than a cat-in-hell's chance of winning anything at all. How the hell can players who don't give a shit can be motivated into showing a bit of pride and passion against teams like Andorra? The player mentioned by Pearce is just one of many. You could probably ask all the academy players at Premiership clubs... bet half of them pick the Ferrari. It annoys me, but I'm just not surprised.
surrifox Posted 20 January 2007 Posted 20 January 2007 At the risk of alienating the Eastlands faithful Pearce also came out and praised Manchester United star Paul Scholes for his attitude towards the game. "If you look across the road to the likes of Scholesy, he's a shining light to any young aspiring footballer. Play football, concentrate on what you're doing, look after your family, keep your head down and your mouth shut. And that's all Paul Scholes does." would that be the same Scholesy who told Ericsson and McLaren to eff off when they asked him to play for England?
Jay Posted 20 January 2007 Posted 20 January 2007 ask the likes of Lampard and co the same question and judging by the world cup performances they think the same, more bothered about money and book deals than playing football at the highest level!! it's a real real shame but at the top level the heart has gone from the game especially international football playing for England doesn't even as much to what it did 10 years ago with the likes of Adams, Ian Wright, Pearce himself and Gazza for them it was the ultimate to play for England now.... they would rather try and get another £20000 a week out of their club, ask Cashley cole £56000 per week is just a f**king Joke!!!
Filbert_Ross Posted 20 January 2007 Posted 20 January 2007 of course a player good enough for England can afford a farrari, some of your are missing the point Pearce is making.
Thracian Posted 20 January 2007 Posted 20 January 2007 of course a player good enough for England can afford a farrari, some of your are missing the point Pearce is making. It made for colourful copy but in reality I cannot see the connection at all. What earthly effect does owning a Ferrari have on your ability and/or attitude towards playing football? Even if one guy said he'd rather have a Ferrari than an England cap, so what?. That doesn't speak for the thousands of others who have Ferrari's. Its like saying anyone with a detached house is a waster and anyone with a terraced house is likely to work their socks off to improve. What crap. People have moved on for more money in every walk of life. Doesn't mean they lose their focus or ambition. Choosing "football reasons" for a move is as fraught as every other reason with the way clubs change their managers/owners/structures these days. Pearce has just chosen a way to make a point but it's not a very good one. His philosophies might be fine but he's probably got to work harder on expressing them. Whatever he drives.
Louise Posted 20 January 2007 Posted 20 January 2007 I could teach you. I dunno, I've heard the rules are pretty hard to grasp.
Filbert_Ross Posted 20 January 2007 Posted 20 January 2007 What earthly effect does owning a Ferrari have on your ability and/or attitude towards playing football? it dosnt, he's saying some players are more interested in flash cars than playing football.
lcfc_jme Posted 20 January 2007 Posted 20 January 2007 Pearce is quality I'd much rather play for England than own a Ferrari. It's essentially a no-brainer. Ferraris can be owned by anybody with decent money really, even footballers who aren't as good as you can own a ferrari exactly the same. How many people can say though that they were chosen to represent their country? That they were one of the elite few who were lucky enough and good enough to represent their home land doing something they love doing? For me, the honour and sense of pride from representing my country would be much, much greater than owning a flashy motor. I don't think a Ferrari would even come close to matching an England cap.
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