Fox in a Box Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 New season, new hope and all that, but the CULL has to begin TODAY. Milan would have seen with his own eyes what players are worth keeping and whose OUT. With a handful of managers vying for the hotseat surely it would benefit everyone for MM to start the ball rolling NOW and start the MASS CULL. Worthy isnt that worthy or smooth and I aint being bitter!, but 3 losses from 5 aint a good return. A new dawn is upon us and we should act NOW. So now the curtain has finally fallen to the season for LCFC who is worth retaining and whose going? TATTIO > Gone NILS > Sad to see him go HUGHES > I'm not convinced therefore I'd let him go, if he has a long term contract keep as a squad player only. JARRETT > Blows hot and cold send him back RAB > (or or or keep him as goalkeeping coach, he has a vast expereince and could be worth keeping there) HORSE . sorry mate you did'nt live up to your billing...... there again we didnt feed the horse, bye! send him back STEARMAN > Sad to say but has lost it MAYBURY ... no love lost HENDERSON . Not convinced, might be 50/50 on him KENTON> Off the pace. DE VRIES Pay him to go....please. ELVIS .................................................................has left the building..... 7 +2 loanees ....busy season ahead then. Get the manager in sooner rather than later.. Retain Logie Kisnorbo McAuley Stearman Mattock Weso Porter Hume Fryatt, if fit Caders... 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mort Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 Out Douglas Henderson McCarthy Maybury Kenton Nissa Johnson Jarret* Hughes Horsefield* Hammond De Vries Out on Loan Logan Fryatt League One sides will be interested in both Retain Kisnorbo McAuley Stearman Mattock Weso Porter Hume Cada This wont happen, no way could we afford to rebuild on such a scale... but it'd be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandannieldanok Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 OutDouglas Henderson McCarthy Maybury Kenton Nissa Johnson Jarret* Hughes Horsefield* Hammond De Vries Out on Loan Logan Fryatt League One sides will be interested in both Retain Kisnorbo McAuley Stearman Mattock Weso Porter Hume This wont happen, no way could we afford to rebuild on such a scale... but it'd be nice. I would be happy to see that but I would be reluctant to see Kenton or McCarthy go as they could be useful back-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnerz Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 To make it easy i'll say who I would like to stay. Logan ( Near enough the same credentials as Henderson but with age on his side, an able Number 2 but a reliable number 1 must be purchased) Mattock (Young, strong, good potential and has shown promise plus a left sided player) Mcauley (Has shown good quality this season despite some setbacks (O.G's and the like) but good as cover) Kisnorbo ( Has been the main man at the back this season on numerous occasions, all the credentials you'd want as a centre back, just needs a leader alongside him) Mccarthy (With the right man coming in ( we pray) as manager I believe with a disciplined manager he will flourish, like Levein got out of him by not being a soft touch, reminds me a lot of walsh, an erratic defender but with the right tutoring could become a valued player for this club) Stearman (Although poor for a lot of the season I feel with the right management behind him his career can be rescued but will probably play second fiddle to a new right back next season) Wesolowski (Has shown the potential to be a quality midfielder and a good leader, just needs to stay fit, reminds me a lot of Callum Davidson when he was here playing in the middle) Porter (Good left sided cover, nothing more) Fryatt (Our best finisher, just needs a good pre season to re-create his form at Walsall and the back end of the season he came) Hume - No reason needed. People like Maybury, Hughes and Horsfield can piss off, others like Johansson will go of their own accord but will be easily replaced many like Hammond, Kenton, Jarrett just try but simply arn't good enough for where we want to be. Thats my say anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkenzo Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 It's all good saying you want a clearout, but I hope you don't expect us go straight up. You'll get no sympathy from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox in a Box Posted 6 May 2007 Author Share Posted 6 May 2007 To make it easy i'll say who I would like to stay.Logan ( Near enough the same credentials as Henderson but with age on his side, an able Number 2 but a reliable number 1 must be purchased) Mattock (Young, strong, good potential and has shown promise plus a left sided player) Mcauley (Has shown good quality this season despite some setbacks (O.G's and the like) but good as cover) Kisnorbo ( Has been the main man at the back this season on numerous occasions, all the credentials you'd want as a centre back, just needs a leader alongside him) Mccarthy (With the right man coming in ( we pray) as manager I believe with a disciplined manager he will flourish, like Levein got out of him by not being a soft touch, reminds me a lot of walsh, an erratic defender but with the right tutoring could become a valued player for this club) Stearman (Although poor for a lot of the season I feel with the right management behind him his career can be rescued but will probably play second fiddle to a new right back next season) Wesolowski (Has shown the potential to be a quality midfielder and a good leader, just needs to stay fit, reminds me a lot of Callum Davidson when he was here playing in the middle) Porter (Good left sided cover, nothing more) Fryatt (Our best finisher, just needs a good pre season to re-create his form at Walsall and the back end of the season he came) Hume - No reason needed. People like Maybury, Hughes and Horsfield can piss off, others like Johansson will go of their own accord but will be easily replaced many like Hammond, Kenton, Jarrett just try but simply arn't good enough for where we want to be. Thats my say anyway. I think your think roughly the same as Me, but jury is out on stearman... TIME FOR THE CULL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 IMO i'd like us to keep Kisnorbo (unless brum make a decent offer), Kenton, McCarthy, Hume, Fryatt, McAuley, Newton, Stearman, Wesolowski, Cada (if he's cheap), Logan (but send him onloan at a decent standard), Dodds, Levi, Gradel, Mattock, King and Odhiambo the rest can go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 keep: kisnorbo hume newton mcauley weso mattock maybe: stearman logan hendo (one of the 2) fryatt cadders levi can;t say im bothered about any others off the top of my head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox in a Box Posted 6 May 2007 Author Share Posted 6 May 2007 looks like we all see the same game then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 For me it's more a case of sell whoever we can replace. If good money comes in for anyone, let them go. The utter deadwood/those who are definately gone are definately - Douglas, Horsfield, Johnson, Tiatto, Johansson, Hammond and Jarrett. As far as a "cull" goes, that's it for me. We need to do this sensibly and skilfully otherwise we're just gonna end up down shit creek. That'll leave us; Logan Henderson Maybury Kisnorbo Kenton McCarthy Hughes Hume Fryatt McAuley Newton Stearman Wesolowski Sheehan Cadamarteri Porter Mattock, Chambers and those of the youth team who got contracts Now. I'd tie up a years deal for Newton if we can get him cheap, he's a fairly good player on his day. For me, Henderson and Sheehan aren't gonna get a look in and may as well be sold while they're still worth something. Chambers + the contracted youth players, as well as Porter, should be listed for loan, get them out there playing regular first team football if possible. That'd leave us with the following best squad: GK. Logan DR. Stearman DL. Mattock DC. McAuley DC. Kisnorbo MR. Newton ML. Cadamarteri MC. Wesolowski MC. Hughes FC. Hume FC. Fryatt Subs from: Maybury, Kenton, McCarthy and those transferred for loan who didn't go out on loan. Out of that, I don't think the following are good enough for first choice - Logan, Stearman, Mattock, Cadamarteri, Hughes, Fryatt. So they should be squad members. That leaves us needing a GK, an RB, a LB, a LW, a MC and a FC. So those positions should be priorities in the transfer market. After that, I'd look into signing a big imposing, and above all commanding, centre back. If we get that McCarthy can join the deadwood list. After that, sell whoever we can replace, or whoever has a big offer come in for them. So, if someone comes in with a good offer for Player of the Year Hume, take it, run, and buy someone new. If a good rightback comes in, axe whoever is furthest down the pecking order (Maybury). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 Apart from a few of the youngster I have no allegiance or care about any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 Douglas (out), Logan (retain as cover if nothing else) Henderson (out) ----------------------------------- Stearman (Sell and replace. Simply too vulnerable when attacked at speed). Maybury (Out. I've seen quite enough.) Magunda (Retained. Promising prospect). ---------------------------------------------- McAuley (retain although his lack of speed makes him so vulnerable against footballing sides). Kisnorbo (sell and replace) McCarthy (sell and replace) Nils (out and replace) Kenton (out and replace)l ------------------------------------------------- Mattock (retain) Sheehan (retain as cover) ----------------------------------------------- Newton (Out and replace. It was marginable but surely we can get better). Gradel (retain to progress from the bench) Hammond (retain as cover unlless there's an obvious replacement) ------------------------------------------------- Wesolowski (Retain. Good prospect) Hughes (out and replace) Jarrett (send back and replace) King (Retained. Good prospect) ---------------------------------------------------- Porter (Retain, various uses) Beswick (Retained. Efficient prospect) --------------------------------------------------- Hume (retain) Fryatt (sell and replace) Horsfield (return to his club) Dodds (retain as cover and let's see what he can do) Cadamarteri (retain on short contract) McKay (retained. Lively and skillful prospect) Odhiambo (as above) DeFries (send out on loan again or out) In car terms we need virtually a complete rebuild. Compare that to the early 60's side when I was gutted to see any of them leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 this is how i'd go formation wise next season -----------------New Keeper -------Stearman McAuley McCarthy Newton-------------------------------Mattock -----------King Wesolowski New CM ----------------Fryatt & Hume thats unless we dont sell kisnorbo then replace stearman with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee7 Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 keep: logan henderson McAuley kisnorbo newton 1 year deal weslowski mattock hume fryatt unsure: cadamarteri porter team next season henderson new RB - kisnorbo - McAuley - new LB newton - new CM - weslowski - new LM hume - new ST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandannieldanok Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 As much as I like your vision Thracian, I don't think MM will give us the money we need to fill the gaps your plan will leave. As for selling, I think that only Kisnorbo and Hume would attract real interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpet Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 YAWN. Im gonna make one of these threads tommorow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 YAWN. Im gonna make one of these threads tommorow. Do it early as I might delete them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 As much as I like your vision Thracian, I don't think MM will give us the money we need to fill the gaps your plan will leave. As for selling, I think that only Kisnorbo and Hume would attract real interest. I agree as far as the "listed for sale" players are concerned. Perhaps I should have said "fire sale" in some cases! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 In car terms we need virtually a complete rebuild. Almost all of what you said I agree with - and I'm going to start taking medication. I do find it hard to think about us in terms of needing a rebuild though - if we use a car analogy then this is us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 Almost all of what you said I agree with - and I'm going to start taking medication.I do find it hard to think about us in terms of needing a rebuild though - if we use a car analogy then this is us... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 main thing is we find a midfielder to boss games like olifinjanawatshisname did for wolves today. he looked about 8 foot, especially next to weso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman of the Bored Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 Cut to the chase. Swap 'em all (apart from Mattock) for Kaka. He could win this League on his own. Mattock and Kaka. And when they've won the league they can set up a firm of solicitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo V Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 I started a similar thread the other day. We have shipped most of the donkeys out already this season like Cog, AJ and Low but we need to drop Maybury, Douglas, Hammond and Cadamateri for starters and maybe throw in Kenton for good measure although he is a versatile defender and may deserve a place within the squad. Of the loanees, Newton may deserve a deal but the rest have been nothing short of shocking so can fook off. What is then left is alod of young players (i wouldnt give up on Fryatt and Stearman just yet), Kisnorbo, McAuley and Hume which is a good sound base to work around. Its time to bring in the big premiership experienced players to take this club forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 If they bought this show back we might be able to get two bottles of Strongbow and twenty B&H for the bunch o'them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynny Posted 6 May 2007 Share Posted 6 May 2007 95% of our squad would be decent back-up. 10-20% is actually usable in a promotion chasing first-team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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