Tevez Posted 30 June 2007 Share Posted 30 June 2007 Logan's still Leicesters number one. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_foxes Posted 30 June 2007 Share Posted 30 June 2007 I think there was a period when he was ok for us. When listening on Radio Leicester they seemd fairly positive saying that he commanded his box well etc.. But I remember one game Hendo got the nod ahead of Logan & I remember wondering why. But then Hendo's performances started improving. Then when Logan came back in at the end of the season, he was very poor. Maybe he was low on confidence. He might just need a loan deal. Look at Wayne Henessey now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 30 June 2007 Share Posted 30 June 2007 I think there was a period when he was ok for us. When listening on Radio Leicester they seemd fairly positive saying that he commanded his box well etc.. But I remember one game Hendo got the nod ahead of Logan & I remember wondering why. But then Hendo's performances started improving. Then when Logan came back in at the end of the season, he was very poor. Maybe he was low on confidence. He might just need a loan deal. Look at Wayne Henessey now. Well he wasn't that poor when he kept a vital clean sheets against Preston & Barnsley at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 30 June 2007 Share Posted 30 June 2007 I think there was a period when he was ok for us. When listening on Radio Leicester they seemd fairly positive saying that he commanded his box well etc.. But I remember one game Hendo got the nod ahead of Logan & I remember wondering why. But then Hendo's performances started improving. Then when Logan came back in at the end of the season, he was very poor. Maybe he was low on confidence. He might just need a loan deal. Look at Wayne Henessey now. The main problem for Logan (and others) was having no reserves team to play in while he was out twiddling his thumbs. I cannot remember anyone who returned to our team after a long lay-off doing well to be truthful - certainly not Johnson, Kenton, Maybury or the beloved Fryatt. But as DavieG said, Logan looked sound enough in keeping those vital clean sheets at Preston and Barnsley and six clean sheets in 20 games (one in just over three games on average) compared with Henderson's seven clean sheets in 30 games (one in more that four games) makes no greater case for Logan going on loan than Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 30 June 2007 Share Posted 30 June 2007 One things for sure, MA needs to whip him into shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted 30 June 2007 Share Posted 30 June 2007 One things for sure, MA needs to whip him into shape. True! Looks as though RK didn't bother, especially with 'Flab' Douglas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David O'Leary Posted 30 June 2007 Share Posted 30 June 2007 I think Logan should go on a diet.The fat bastard. dead right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted 30 June 2007 Share Posted 30 June 2007 Personally I think Logan should stay as backup, and we get rid of Henderson. Its not as if we need three keepers, and in my opinion Logan is the better keeper of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Smuts Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 Surely the only reason for him to go out on loan would be to gain first team expierience whic if im nt mistaken is what hes already had a certain amount of here last season? Any point in a loan then? Surely now weve got the reserves back he can try his hand at impressing MA there instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 Surely the only reason for him to go out on loan would be to gain first team expierience whic if im nt mistaken is what hes already had a certain amount of here last season?Any point in a loan then? Surely now weve got the reserves back he can try his hand at impressing MA there instead? are you seriously saying sending him out for aseason where he will play almost every week would be bad for him and us? it would do wonders for his confidence help to iron out some of his flaws and be far better then splitting reserve team duties with henderson/nielsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Lisemore Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 I think Logan should be ahead of henderson tbh, hendo is old and losing it. Logan is young and on level par with Hendo may aswell play him as sub keeper, to build for the future. Plus if he does well he may be spotted and off he will go for a nice fee which we can put towards a top quality striker that will keep us in the prem end of next season. we alredy have the money mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
city1993 Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 I think he still needs some lower league experience, I can't see him getting in ahead of Hendo and NEILSON !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 I think he still needs some lower league experience, I can't see him getting in ahead of Hendo and NEILSON !! its Nielsen mate, check the OS and his Wiki page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 are you seriously saying sending him out for aseason where he will play almost every week would be bad for him and us?it would do wonders for his confidence help to iron out some of his flaws and be far better then splitting reserve team duties with henderson/nielsen Playing regularly in the lower leagues will not iron out any flaws he has, in fact it could make them worse; what he needs more than anything is regular football, and that can be at reserve or first team level and most important of all good coaching. I can't see him getting that in a lower league. I think he still needs some lower league experience, I can't see him getting in ahead of Hendo and NEILSON !! He got in before Hendo last season, so why wouldn't he this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 i disagree it wont make him perfect but playing regular competitive football would help him with his judgement and some of his more glaring errors could be cut out after a season of learning constantly in proper matches not the sub-standard level that is reserve football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 i disagree it wont make him perfect but playing regular competitive football would help him with his judgement and some of his more glaring errors could be cut out after a season of learning constantly in proper matches not the sub-standard level that is reserve football Players have been able to develop their skills in reserve team football long before loans appeared, why is iy suddenly so necessary to do so. I don't recall Banks & Shilton going on loan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anish Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 Players have been able to develop their skills in reserve team football long before loans appeared, why is iy suddenly so necessary to do so.I don't recall Banks & Shilton going on loan! The game has changed massively since those days. Nobody even cares about reserve team football nowadays - it's not like players who play consistently well in the reserves get promoted to the first team, as Thracian will no doubt testify with the likes of Dodds et al. I'd say playing lower league football is more competitve than reserve team football - mistakes count, points are at stake, supporters actually attend matches, and it's a good base to start from. Reserve team football is nothing more than a means of keeping players fit and enabling them to ease back in after an injury layoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 Good keeper in my eyes. Keep him for back up if not start him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 The game has changed massively since those days. Nobody even cares about reserve team football nowadays - it's not like players who play consistently well in the reserves get promoted to the first team, as Thracian will no doubt testify with the likes of Dodds et al. I'd say playing lower league football is more competitve than reserve team football - mistakes count, points are at stake, supporters actually attend matches, and it's a good base to start from. Reserve team football is nothing more than a means of keeping players fit and enabling them to ease back in after an injury layoff. Nobody used to care in those days either, in fact I can't ever recall knowing anything about the reserves. I just don't see how someone like Logan will benefit from a stint in the lower leagues, away from presumably better coaching and facilities than he would playing for our reserves. I'm sure the ball will come at him at the same speed and from the same directions were ever he's playing. There could well be some justification for an outfield player but I just don't see it for a goalkeeper where quality coaching ranks above a slightly more competitive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 Nobody used to care in those days either, in fact I can't ever recall knowing anything about the reserves. I just don't see how someone like Logan will benefit from a stint in the lower leagues, away from presumably better coaching and facilities than he would playing for our reserves. I'm sure the ball will come at him at the same speed and from the same directions were ever he's playing. There could well be some justification for an outfield player but I just don't see it for a goalkeeper where quality coaching ranks above a slightly more competitive game. but with henderson here aswell he wouldn't be playing every game, unless you are saying to get rid of henderson in which case you point stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 but with henderson here aswell he wouldn't be playing every game, unless you are saying to get rid of henderson in which case you point stands As the question was never who should go on loan, Henderson or Logan I didn't refer to him, but my argument would also apply equally to Henderson, they both have faults that need good coaching. Whether we need 3 goalies as well as the two youth team ones is another question. If I had to choose to let one go yes it would be Henderson, there isn't much to choose between the two of them but Logan has time on his side to improve and Henderson could well demand a slightly bigger fee due to his experience. This is all assuming that Neilson is the better goalkeeper, presumably Allen thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez of Mahrez Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 Bloke on Fox Fanzine reckons Hendo has been linked with QPR and Swansea, doesn't state a source though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Smuts Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 Bloke on Fox Fanzine reckons Hendo has been linked with QPR and Swansea, doesn't state a source though. See my Hendo to swansea thread. I agree with DavieG, goin on loan to someone in the lower leagues is a glaring mistake in itself its frankly insulting, at certain points last season Conrad was our first choice and having brought in only one new keeper and believing to be on the verge of flogging 1 or even 2 of the other choices surely he'd be pushing for number 2? If he plays in the reserves and sits on the bench the coaching he will recieve is far superior and if and when Casino Jimmy lets up and gives Logan at pop at the big time surely he'd be far more equipped to deal with the situation than if he were at Accrington Stanley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 *DRUM ROLL* Thracians bang on the money here. Henderson is over rated by far too many people on here, he's ony apparent strength is his shot stopping, which is average for the Championship if im being extremly nice. He's also right on the Nielsen thing, although I am pretty convinced he'll be starting the Blackpool game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 1 July 2007 Share Posted 1 July 2007 Before anything Conrad should get on the Treadmill and start losing that excess weight and work on his agility. Definatly Hinders him when a long shot comes in for one of the top corners and he can't get high enough or get there fast enough. He's good at coming out and throwing himself on the ground but he definatly needs to work on his aireal aspects.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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