Abdullah Posted 30 August 2007 Share Posted 30 August 2007 Just found this little article regarding the trouble on Tuesday. Maybe you lot want to get your facts straight before accusing the glorious fans of Nottingham Forest. Dragging our good name through the mud. Bring on the replay. Police blame City fans for Cup violence by Ciaran Fagan Police have blamed a group of up to 300 Leicester City fans for violence which scarred last night's abandoned cup tie at Nottingham Forest. However, the Leicester Mercury saw a large group of Forest fans - some chanting €˜attack, attack, attack' - trying to get to Leicester fans as they left the ground. The Carling Cup match - the first meeting of the East Midlands rivals in two years - was halted at half-time after City left-back Clive Clarke fell ill and was taken to hospital. Both clubs, senior police officers and match officials, agreed to halt the match in light of Clarke's illness. The 27-year-old was kept under observation in Nottingham's Queen's Medical Centre after he collapsed in the dressing room. His condition is said to be stable. The Nottinghamshire officer who was in charge of policing the tie said six people, mostly Leicester fans, were arrested outside the ground as fans left. Chief Inspector Mark Holland said up to 300 City fans had travelled to Nottingham “intent on causing troubleâ€. Also, at least 30 City fans who ignored warnings and travelled to Nottingham without tickets were picked up in the city before kick-off and escorted back to the railway station and put on trains home. However, police added that small pockets of ticketless City fans who had not been detected had also caused trouble in the city. Chief Inspector Holland said: “The arrests were mostly outside the ground for public order offences and of people who did not comply with police instructions. “The majority of those arrests were Leicester City fans. “We had different groups of Leicester fans who were clearly intent on causing disorder - they were identified to us by Leicestershire police €˜spotters'. “Around 5,300 Leicester fans bought tickets, and I would say around 200 to 300 of them were here to cause trouble. “We also had a number who came over without tickets, which is disappointing given the warnings we had issued through the press and on the website. “We escorted 20 or 30 back to the railway station and put them on the next available train home. But there were pockets of them all over the place. “That depletes our resources and makes our job more difficult. We had around 160 officers on duty and we needed every single one of them to control things. “In every game 99 per cent of the fans come to enjoy the football, but there was clearly an element of Leicester City supporters who travelled to create disorder.†The Chief Inspector was also jointly responsible for the decision to abandon the game in the light of the City full-back's illness. He said: “Clearly there were distressed people, both players and management, in the Leicester side. After an incident of that nature there was no will to go on in either team.†A City fan who was caught up in the 15-minute post match violence as he tried to leave the ground with his family said: “It was very scary for a few minutes, we felt really unsafe because some of the Nottingham lads were behaving like animals. “There were plenty of police around and they got on top of the Forest fans quickly. “I didn't see any Leicester City fans retaliating, we all just wanted to get out of there as quickly as we could. We're all thinking about Clive and his family and hoping he's going to be okay.†City fan Louis Davies, 56, said: “As far as I could see some of the Leicester fans charged at the Forest supporters. There was a very bad atmosphere. “These people are an embarrassment to the club. “I was at the rugby final at Wembley the other week and there was nothing like this, there never is. “A night like this makes you want to pack up football and watch rugby instead.†A 28-year-old female City fan said: “Leicester fans were concerned about Clive Clarke but the Nottingham supporters were upset because they were winning and playing better than us. “It's a local derby so it's bound to have a bit of spice to it, that's why there were more than 5,000 of us here. I didn't feel in danger at any point.†Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBEightyFive Posted 30 August 2007 Share Posted 30 August 2007 Just found this little article regarding the trouble on Tuesday. Maybe you lot want to get your facts straight before accusing the glorious fans of Nottingham Forest. Dragging our good name through the mud.Bring on the replay Forest fans are obviously saints of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Smuts Posted 30 August 2007 Share Posted 30 August 2007 Forest fans are obviously c^nts of course Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBEightyFive Posted 30 August 2007 Share Posted 30 August 2007 That agreed too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AoWW Posted 30 August 2007 Share Posted 30 August 2007 I've mentioned before that we missed the trouble afterwards and just felt the tense atmosphere with the Forest and City fans walking either side of the road,and the horses etc...Missed the 'town full of paki' chants too. BUT my Mrs,who has been to a few games over the years,actually turned round to me and said "This is exciting isn't it!!!!????" My Mrs is a degree educated,teacher!!!!!! I think i have a Yobbo on my hands!!!! Made me laugh,as i clutched her hand as security!!!! Bloody radical those teachers. Don't trust 'em - they're usually the instigators of all the trouble. I had mine on last night, no-one said anything to me apart from a forest fan in a van giving the old waynekerr sign!To be honest I think People that don't wear their shirts are just in denial, there were plenty of city fans walking round with their shirts on last night, I doubt they we're the ones getting battered. It's entirely your decision. You just keep on believing in your theory. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spee-d Posted 30 August 2007 Share Posted 30 August 2007 Just found this little article regarding the trouble on Tuesday. Maybe you lot want to get your facts straight before accusing the glorious fans of Nottingham Forest. Dragging our good name through the mud.Bring on the replay. Police blame City fans for Cup violence by Ciaran Fagan Police have blamed a group of up to 300 Leicester City fans for violence which scarred last night's abandoned cup tie at Nottingham Forest. However, the Leicester Mercury saw a large group of Forest fans - some chanting €˜attack, attack, attack' - trying to get to Leicester fans as they left the ground. The Carling Cup match - the first meeting of the East Midlands rivals in two years - was halted at half-time after City left-back Clive Clarke fell ill and was taken to hospital. Both clubs, senior police officers and match officials, agreed to halt the match in light of Clarke's illness. The 27-year-old was kept under observation in Nottingham's Queen's Medical Centre after he collapsed in the dressing room. His condition is said to be stable. The Nottinghamshire officer who was in charge of policing the tie said six people, mostly Leicester fans, were arrested outside the ground as fans left. Chief Inspector Mark Holland said up to 300 City fans had travelled to Nottingham “intent on causing troubleâ€. Also, at least 30 City fans who ignored warnings and travelled to Nottingham without tickets were picked up in the city before kick-off and escorted back to the railway station and put on trains home. However, police added that small pockets of ticketless City fans who had not been detected had also caused trouble in the city. Chief Inspector Holland said: “The arrests were mostly outside the ground for public order offences and of people who did not comply with police instructions. “The majority of those arrests were Leicester City fans. “We had different groups of Leicester fans who were clearly intent on causing disorder - they were identified to us by Leicestershire police €˜spotters'. “Around 5,300 Leicester fans bought tickets, and I would say around 200 to 300 of them were here to cause trouble. “We also had a number who came over without tickets, which is disappointing given the warnings we had issued through the press and on the website. “We escorted 20 or 30 back to the railway station and put them on the next available train home. But there were pockets of them all over the place. “That depletes our resources and makes our job more difficult. We had around 160 officers on duty and we needed every single one of them to control things. “In every game 99 per cent of the fans come to enjoy the football, but there was clearly an element of Leicester City supporters who travelled to create disorder.†The Chief Inspector was also jointly responsible for the decision to abandon the game in the light of the City full-back's illness. He said: “Clearly there were distressed people, both players and management, in the Leicester side. After an incident of that nature there was no will to go on in either team.†A City fan who was caught up in the 15-minute post match violence as he tried to leave the ground with his family said: “It was very scary for a few minutes, we felt really unsafe because some of the Nottingham lads were behaving like animals. “There were plenty of police around and they got on top of the Forest fans quickly. “I didn't see any Leicester City fans retaliating, we all just wanted to get out of there as quickly as we could. We're all thinking about Clive and his family and hoping he's going to be okay.†City fan Louis Davies, 56, said: “As far as I could see some of the Leicester fans charged at the Forest supporters. There was a very bad atmosphere. “These people are an embarrassment to the club. “I was at the rugby final at Wembley the other week and there was nothing like this, there never is. “A night like this makes you want to pack up football and watch rugby instead.†A 28-year-old female City fan said: “Leicester fans were concerned about Clive Clarke but the Nottingham supporters were upset because they were winning and playing better than us. “It's a local derby so it's bound to have a bit of spice to it, that's why there were more than 5,000 of us here. I didn't feel in danger at any point.†I was there, and it was definately the Forest fans who started the trouble on the way out. Of course we arent angels, and we did have fans intent on causing trouble too, but the forest fans were in numbers going on with their sick chanting. I know one our lads who got arrested and he did nothing wrong. Tried to defend himself against some of your lot. As for the part about our fans travelling without tickets...are you telling me that no forest fan would travel over here without a ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted 30 August 2007 Share Posted 30 August 2007 police are ridicoulous , very few decent bobbies about anymore . both sets of fans were at it and forest "hardboys" were just as much to blame as ours . only a fool would suggest otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripeyfox Posted 30 August 2007 Share Posted 30 August 2007 Despite the unpleasantness during and after the game I saw very little "real" trouble. The "Leicester fans charging Forest fans" (Leics Mercury) was in reality a load of tossers offing the Forest fans out from the relative safety of the Brigford Stand (i.e. out of range of being punched). Outside the ground, I only saw more tossers shouting and threatening each other but no actual fighting. I thought the Mercury article about the "trouble" was way off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 30 August 2007 Share Posted 30 August 2007 Just found this little article regarding the trouble on Tuesday. Maybe you lot want to get your facts straight before accusing the glorious fans of Nottingham Forest. Dragging our good name through the mud.Bring on the replay. What part of "grow up" are you failing to understand? Would you like some help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 31 August 2007 Share Posted 31 August 2007 Bloody Forest fans surely the police could have done a better job. I went to an AFL game a couple of weeks ago in Sydney with my brother and 2 mates we endured an 18 hour bus trip up there. It was an importnant game both teams trying to make the final's There were not many St.Kilda fans in the intermingled crowd (as all AFL games are) of 63,000 so the ones that we did see we became mates with for the night. So at the end of a close game there were some heated people and a group of Sydney suporter turned on a group that we were talking to earlier on in the night inside the packed stadium for no reason and were battering them. So we stepped in to help out as the one security guard that was there ran off and they were really getting hurt. But then the coppers come and grab myself and me mates first, escorted us out side then just wished us a nice night. So my point is trouble and sport comes hand in hand everywhere luckly it doesn't happen a great deal in AFL even though there isn't a great deal of security and supporters sit where ever, not home and away. But reading all these posts i hope it doesn't deter you guys from going to away games as i was luck enough to go to a couple of away games once upon a time and i still believe it's on of the best atomospheres ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovejoy Posted 31 August 2007 Share Posted 31 August 2007 I had mine on last night, no-one said anything to me apart from a forest fan in a van giving the old waynekerr sign!To be honest I think People that don't wear their shirts are just in denial, there were plenty of city fans walking round with their shirts on last night, I doubt they we're the ones getting battered. I have never been to an away match before without wearing my shirt. The worst ive ever experienced is a group of 4 Derby fans chanting "s**t on the Leicester" on the train. Even that was in good humour. Usually its easy to spot those looking for trouble so if you just mind your own business its all good (so far). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 31 August 2007 Share Posted 31 August 2007 I have never been to an away match before without wearing my shirt. The worst ive ever experienced is a group of 4 Derby fans chanting "s**t on the Leicester" on the train. Even that was in good humour. Usually its easy to spot those looking for trouble so if you just mind your own business its all good (so far). Think it goes down to your age also. Most blokes aint gonna pick on any kids. I would not have liked to have any colours on at Forest last week and when you were your shirt cant do much drinking before hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 31 August 2007 Share Posted 31 August 2007 Wow I wish I could be as cool as him. Forest - big club - big support. Well done. You're still in the 3rd division! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floating Fox Posted 31 August 2007 Share Posted 31 August 2007 Think it goes down to your age also. Most blokes aint gonna pick on any kids. I would not have liked to have any colours on at Forest last week and when you were your shirt cant do much drinking before hand. Cover up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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