Mort Posted 28 September 2007 Posted 28 September 2007 It's wet, cold, dark and generally unpleasant, I've just worked up a fantastic bout of flu thanks to marking round Corby doing my bit for the "Mighty Blooz" (and I'm not talking about City) so what do i now hear... "lets have an autumn election". That said there seems to be a lot of chatter about it, Brown's probably never going to have it so good, having said that its a MASSIVE risk IMHO - short days, very volatile polls (Labour went from eight points ahead to level at the beginning of September to eight points ahead during their conference), Conservatives are very organized in some areas compared to Labour and does anyone really want an election? Personally I'm still thinking its a massive wind-up to get the Conservative leadership in a bit of a tizzy, having said that i think its getting to a point where he could look stupid if there isn't an election, but to be honest who wants to wander out to vote in fe*king November!? But as i say could be his best chance, even if it's still a massive risk for Brown and Labour.
Hullfox Posted 28 September 2007 Posted 28 September 2007 It's wet, cold, dark and generally unpleasant, I've just worked up a fantastic bout of flu thanks to marking round Corby doing my bit for the "Mighty Blooz" (and I'm not talking about City) so what do i now hear... "lets have an autumn election". That said there seems to be a lot of chatter about it, Brown's probably never going to have it so good, having said that its a MASSIVE risk IMHO - short days, very volatile polls (Labour went from eight points ahead to level at the beginning of September to eight points ahead during their conference), Conservatives are very organized in some areas compared to Labour and does anyone really want an election? Personally I'm still thinking its a massive wind-up to get the Conservative leadership in a bit of a tizzy, having said that i think its getting to a point where he could look stupid if there isn't an election, but to be honest who wants to wander out to vote in fe*king November!? But as i say could be his best chance, even if it's still a massive risk for Brown and Labour. I'd be suprised if he called an election now. He doesn't want the wrong kind of history written against his name should he lose.
FilboFox Posted 28 September 2007 Posted 28 September 2007 I doubt he would lose... Brown will make his decision next week if he does call an election but there have been tell tale signs that he will call one soon. Should be interesting to see what happens but I predict another Labour win... not too difficult either.
Milky Posted 28 September 2007 Posted 28 September 2007 Elections are a complete turd bag anyway. 90% don't even bother to read the manifesto's. The great unwashed just zombie down to vote for who they think they perhaps should, or step next in line behind the old man. We're all just puppets with the man's hand firmly shoved up our arses.
Webbo Posted 28 September 2007 Posted 28 September 2007 [quote name='FilboFox' date='Sep 28 2007, 05:09 PM' post='763811' Should be interesting to see what happens but I predict another Labour win... not too difficult either. Unfortunately I think your probably right. Somewhere between a 40-60 seat majority.
Mort Posted 28 September 2007 Author Posted 28 September 2007 Unfortunately I think your probably right. Somewhere between a 40-60 seat majority. I'd not be surprised by that, personally if there is an election I think it could be anything from a hung parliament (albeit "just") to a Labour majoirty not unlike what they have now (although then you've got to take into account, differential swings, the impact of boundary changes, the rise of the SNP, low turnout, Conservative strength in their target seats... the list goes on), unless Labour's going to get some massive landslide (unlikley IMHO) then why risk a perfectly safe majority of 60+ for two more years in power, that is unless Brown and Labour think some kind of sh*t is really going to hit the fan in the next few weeks and months or they don't expect the Brown honeymoon to last.
l444ry Posted 28 September 2007 Posted 28 September 2007 I don't think it matters much when Brown decides to call an election. As long as the Tories have that empty vessell Cameron in charge and the Lib Dems have Campbell as leader it will be a one horse race.......
Thracian Posted 28 September 2007 Posted 28 September 2007 I doubt he would lose... Brown will make his decision next week if he does call an election but there have been tell tale signs that he will call one soon.Should be interesting to see what happens but I predict another Labour win... not too difficult either. Terrific - can't wait.
Zingari Posted 28 September 2007 Posted 28 September 2007 the tories need to get william hague back as leader
stez Posted 28 September 2007 Posted 28 September 2007 i hate england good job it'd be the uk general election then innit?
Mort Posted 6 October 2007 Author Posted 6 October 2007 Not going to happen now (acording to BBC & Sky), didnt fancy being dragged out to campaign in October/November anyway. Brown called if off becuase of a decent "bounce" for Cameron post-conference and because polls by ICM and the Labour Party internal polling suggestged they'd lose 48 seats to the Conservatives (add to that as many as 15 seats also being gained by the Tories from the LibDems) which would mean they'd lose their majoirty... short term it'll hurt Brown, long term you cant tell if it'll have any lasting effect. Although i wonder if he's missed his best chance of winning an election by not going.
Webbo Posted 6 October 2007 Posted 6 October 2007 In a way I'm glad, I didn't fancy going out to vote in November. Just hope this doesn't mean they're going to push through the European Treaty without a referendum.
Mort Posted 6 October 2007 Author Posted 6 October 2007 In a way I'm glad, I didn't fancy going out to vote in November. Just hope this doesn't mean they're going to push through the European Treaty without a referendum. Think they probably will Labour's pretty much flat out said there wont be a referendum, then again if by some miracle the Tories got in in 2009/10 they'd probably do what Labour did in the seventies with EEC membership and put the treaty to a referendum. But i agree it was barmy expecting people to vote in the winter and a massive headache for all concerned.
Rincewind Posted 6 October 2007 Posted 6 October 2007 I do the postal vote which will make no difference to me if there is a postal strike on. I can't be arsed to go to the polling station half the time and the other half I am not bothered who wins. I vote apathetic.
FilboFox Posted 6 October 2007 Posted 6 October 2007 I hate to say it, as I have been fervently a Labour supporter since I have ever been interested in politics, BUT, having recently listened to David Cameron's speaches, I have been finding myself more and more inclined to vote Conservative in an election... Now however, as it isn't happening, Brown will have to hit back in the next 2 years and win the public back as one latest poll suggests the following: Labour - 38% Conservatives - 44% Lib Dems - 12%
Finnegan Posted 7 October 2007 Posted 7 October 2007 good job it'd be the uk general election then innit? <_<
Rincewind Posted 7 October 2007 Posted 7 October 2007 If only the Lib Dems had a leader that would appeal to the under 80's
Flynny Posted 7 October 2007 Posted 7 October 2007 Can I confess to being somewhat won over by Cameron's speech? Not just the highlights either, I read the entire transcript. It's not half bad as far as political speeches go.
Daggers Posted 7 October 2007 Posted 7 October 2007 I have lost all faith in politics and politicians. I'll not be voting anymore.
Ultra Posted 7 October 2007 Posted 7 October 2007 A November election was never really on the cards. Our PM takes even fewer risks than Gary Megson!
lookwhaticando Posted 7 October 2007 Posted 7 October 2007 Bugger. There goes my chance to vote UKIP.
Daggers Posted 7 October 2007 Posted 7 October 2007 "Almost the whole of my text at the moment, in my head as I fall asleep, is summed up by the word "contempt". Contempt, in politics, for the hypocrisy, the double standards, the double dealing, the corruption and the moral suasion. It's almost impossible for me to explain just how deeply I feel contempt."Stephen Fry speaking on the BBC's The Week. "I think the Labour party's crowning achievement is the death of politics. There's nothing left to vote for."Noel Gallagher quoted in The Post Chronicle.
Jon the Hat Posted 7 October 2007 Posted 7 October 2007 Brown will never win an election. Not now, not in May, not in 2009 or 2010.
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