purpleronnie Posted 13 October 2007 Posted 13 October 2007 Well it wasn't my choice to go to see an England game it was my Dads...just wanted to make that point at the start. Got the tube at St Pancras, as predicted jammed packed and had a very sweaty and uncomfortable journey to Wembley Park. As we went through the turnstiles our bags were checked and the bottle tops were removed from the bottles, but we were able to keep the bottle...what’s more of a threat? a bottle or a bottle top? Anyway walked into the stadium and it looked ok just what I expected although it was a new experience being in a stadium that big but it really is compact so even on the 3rd tier I'm sure there’s a pretty good view. As more and more face painted Chinese fans came in I was waiting for some kind of atmosphere to start...didn't happen. Stewards regularly walked down the aisles and gesturing people to sit down, even in the so called ‘singing section’ it looked like they were having trouble with the stewards although it looked like about 200 fans stood all game not much considering 86+ thousand were there. I also noticed they were trying to get the Estonia fans to sit as well. Only the banging of the drum created any atmosphere but for most art it was played in hushed silence. During the game fans around me were chatting to each-other or on mobile phones or going to get there 6 quid pies. My dad even commentated that the fans don't seem interested in the game, a interview I saw on the TV a few months ago sprung into my head it was an interview with an 'it' girl who said going to watch England was now high up on the social scale...OMG! What hope is left for England fans if an England match is classed in the same way as Henley regatta? The game itself was very very poor a typical England performance I guess, after we went 3-0 up I think the players just settled for that and no-one wanted to get booked or injured for the more important and a lot harder Russia game in a few days...fair enough I thought but it did make the rest of the game a chore to watch. After counting down the clock and watching the stadium empty with 15 minutes to go, the whistle finally blew and the nightmare of getting back to the train station began. But thankfully only took an hour to get back but the journey wasn't pleasant. All in all it was an expensive, uncomfortable, very quiet, dull day. But at least I've seen England and the new wembley I guess that’s something. My Dad who is more of a patriot than me, said to me as we were on our way back home 'never again'....thank god for that I thought. Got back and watched the Scotland match, boy sometimes I wish I was Scottish the passion from the fans, everyone standing and singing, and then the players what hearts they have. I just wished England fans and team played and supported like that. If they did I would definitely go again.
Ultra Posted 13 October 2007 Posted 13 October 2007 National Express run direct services to and from Wembley on match days. Perhaps that's an option you should check out next time.
purpleronnie Posted 13 October 2007 Author Posted 13 October 2007 Next time........Not likely, but thanks.
James. Posted 13 October 2007 Posted 13 October 2007 There's constructive criticism and there's just plain negativity. Maybe you should have put the energy you've just expended writing that monologue into getting behind a team that has scored 3 goals in each of their last 5 qualifiers and conceded zero. What do you expect in a flat 2nd half where it was more about conserving bodies for Wednesday's trip to Russia - there will be some amazing atmospheres at Wembley in years to come. A qualifier against an awful team that was over before it even started isn't going to be one of those times. Stop moaning. I don't think Wembley will miss your pessimistic outlook.
Mikey Posted 13 October 2007 Posted 13 October 2007 There's constructive criticism and there's just plain negativity.Maybe you should have put the energy you've just expended writing that monologue into getting behind a team that has scored 3 goals in each of their last 5 qualifiers and conceded zero. What do you expect in a flat 2nd half where it was more about conserving bodies for Wednesday's trip to Russia - there will be some amazing atmospheres at Wembley in years to come. A qualifier against an awful team that was over before it even started isn't going to be one of those times. Stop moaning. I don't think Wembley will miss your pessimistic outlook. Now that.... ...was Well Said.
Milky Posted 13 October 2007 Posted 13 October 2007 Stop moaning. I don't think Wembley will miss your pessimistic outlook. He pretty much slags England off at every opportunity. Bet he's gutted about the rugby win.
James. Posted 13 October 2007 Posted 13 October 2007 He pretty much slags England off at every opportunity. Bet he's gutted about the rugby win. Well if he can justify to me ONE benefit deriving from that stance then I'm all ears.
Thracian Posted 13 October 2007 Posted 13 October 2007 There's constructive criticism and there's just plain negativity.Maybe you should have put the energy you've just expended writing that monologue into getting behind a team that has scored 3 goals in each of their last 5 qualifiers and conceded zero. What do you expect in a flat 2nd half where it was more about conserving bodies for Wednesday's trip to Russia - there will be some amazing atmospheres at Wembley in years to come. A qualifier against an awful team that was over before it even started isn't going to be one of those times. Stop moaning. I don't think Wembley will miss your pessimistic outlook. I think he's saying that a combination of the nannying and the prawn sandwich brigade is taking the soul out of watching football - and if so he's right. I went to the Israel game and it was just the same. Sterilised entertainment. No atmospheric uumph whatsoever. Great ground mind. The endless stoppages in games now don't help either. Every bit of bodily contact - foul. Every time someone falls over - foul. Every time someone gets a little knock but fancies a rest or taking on instructions - stop the game. Endless substitutions - stop the game for each one. Every few petty fouls - booking. At Stoke the other night we had additional nonsense. On two separate occasions a linesman waved his flag - and the thing dropped to pieces. They must be importing them from the Far East. Is our once proud industrial nation no longer capable of making half decent linesmen's flags? And because the second flag belonged to the lino on the far side of the pitch the game was stopped while an official took him another. But could he go across the pitch and save a bit of time. Oh no - he had to walk all the way around the perimeter.
James. Posted 13 October 2007 Posted 13 October 2007 At Stoke the other night we had additional nonsense. On two separate occasions a linesman waved his flag - and the thing dropped to pieces. They must be importing them from the Far East. Is our once proud industrial nation no longer capable of making half decent linesmen's flags?And because the second flag belonged to the lino on the far side of the pitch the game was stopped while an official took him another. But could he go across the pitch and save a bit of time. Oh no - he had to walk all the way around the perimeter. Err... what?
Bojimha Posted 13 October 2007 Posted 13 October 2007 LMFAO @ Mensi!!! I had a few beers before, during, and after the game, got gnoshed at half time......seems like it was a better afternoon for me !
Finnegan Posted 14 October 2007 Posted 14 October 2007 At least you fill the place. There'll be about 231 people at Wales' next home game.
stez Posted 14 October 2007 Posted 14 October 2007 I think he's saying that a combination of the nannying and the prawn sandwich brigade is taking the soul out of watching football - and if so he's right. I went to the Israel game and it was just the same. Sterilised entertainment. No atmospheric uumph whatsoever. Great ground mind. The endless stoppages in games now don't help either. Every bit of bodily contact - foul. Every time someone falls over - foul. Every time someone gets a little knock but fancies a rest or taking on instructions - stop the game. Endless substitutions - stop the game for each one. Every few petty fouls - booking. At Stoke the other night we had additional nonsense. On two separate occasions a linesman waved his flag - and the thing dropped to pieces. They must be importing them from the Far East. Is our once proud industrial nation no longer capable of making half decent linesmen's flags? And because the second flag belonged to the lino on the far side of the pitch the game was stopped while an official took him another. But could he go across the pitch and save a bit of time. Oh no - he had to walk all the way around the perimeter. now that, is well said! At least you fill the place. There'll be about 231 people at Wales' next home game. well, if a principality the size of wales insists on building such a big stadium.......
purpleronnie Posted 14 October 2007 Author Posted 14 October 2007 There's constructive criticism and there's just plain negativity.Maybe you should have put the energy you've just expended writing that monologue into getting behind a team that has scored 3 goals in each of their last 5 qualifiers and conceded zero. What do you expect in a flat 2nd half where it was more about conserving bodies for Wednesday's trip to Russia - there will be some amazing atmospheres at Wembley in years to come. A qualifier against an awful team that was over before it even started isn't going to be one of those times. Stop moaning. I don't think Wembley will miss your pessimistic outlook. It wasn't an outlook, it was my experience. The fact england have done well in the last 5 games wasn't anything to do with my post. I did mention the players rested after the 3rd goal and my comment was 'fair enough'. If england get a result in russia and beat croatia they deserve a lot of praise. Its going to be very hard and its still in the balance whether we qualify.
purpleronnie Posted 14 October 2007 Author Posted 14 October 2007 He pretty much slags England off at every opportunity. Bet he's gutted about the rugby win. Nope, england rugby side surprised me and it was a great result if we beat south africa in the final now that would be something. I do however think we celebrate medocracy a bit too much in this country.
Babylon Posted 14 October 2007 Posted 14 October 2007 There's constructive criticism and there's just plain negativity.Maybe you should have put the energy you've just expended writing that monologue into getting behind a team that has scored 3 goals in each of their last 5 qualifiers and conceded zero. What do you expect in a flat 2nd half where it was more about conserving bodies for Wednesday's trip to Russia - there will be some amazing atmospheres at Wembley in years to come. A qualifier against an awful team that was over before it even started isn't going to be one of those times. Stop moaning. I don't think Wembley will miss your pessimistic outlook. Having been myself for the Israel game I actually agree with him. Your point of getting behind the team...... it's like shouting for help in a desert, pointless. Unless you are anywhere near the group behind the goal it's not worth it. You'll be a lone voice amongst 75,000 bankers chatting to each other and not watching the game. He's expressing his view of the day, so let him.
MPH Posted 14 October 2007 Posted 14 October 2007 At least you fill the place. There'll be about 231 people at Wales' next home game. it wasnt that long ago the welsh team was firing on all cylinders... they had a really good team......
Wils Posted 14 October 2007 Posted 14 October 2007 I was at the game yest and had a quality day. Bit of a nightmare getting down Wembley though!
sambucapleasechief Posted 14 October 2007 Posted 14 October 2007 Our you sure you were not at the walkers when you say "Only the banging of the drum created any atmosphere but for most art it was played in hushed silence" ?
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