FoxesTalk 2004

[LeeCovFox]

A post from October 11th 2004, Micky Adams had just left:

Good riddance, hope nothing goes right for you in the future.

Thank you for taking us up with another managers squad.

Thanks for also signing about 30 old men in your time here and taking us down.

Thanks for never playing young players.

Thanks for sacking one of the unbeatable defenders.

Thanks for turning this club into a shit footballing side and leaving us 12th in the championship.

Thanks for the shit discipline you gave to the club.

Oh and thank you micky.

Glad to see the back of you.

To think, thats as bad as we thought things could get.

[The People's Hero]

A post from October 11th 2004, Micky Adams had just left:

Good riddance, hope nothing goes right for you in the future.

Thank you for taking us up with another managers squad.

Thanks for also signing about 30 old men in your time here and taking us down.

Thanks for never playing young players.

Thanks for sacking one of the unbeatable defenders.

Thanks for turning this club into a shit footballing side and leaving us 12th in the championship.

Thanks for the shit discipline you gave to the club.

Oh and thank you micky.

Glad to see the back of you.

To think, thats as bad as we thought things could get.

Who posted that?

Tell me it wasn't me.

[Koke]

I'd give my right testicle to be 12th in Championship again.

[Corky]

A post from October 11th 2004, Micky Adams had just left:

Good riddance, hope nothing goes right for you in the future.

Thank you for taking us up with another managers squad.

Thanks for also signing about 30 old men in your time here and taking us down.

Thanks for never playing young players.

Thanks for sacking one of the unbeatable defenders.

Thanks for turning this club into a shit footballing side and leaving us 12th in the championship.

Thanks for the shit discipline you gave to the club.

Oh and thank you micky.

Glad to see the back of you.

To think, thats as bad as we thought things could get.

I will admit, I was not happy at that point. All I had known was Premiership football or promotion battles, and I expected better from our team and Adams. Little did I realise at the time it actually wasn't that bad.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. I regret what I said about Adams and that team

[davieG]

In 4 years time let's hope no one's digging out posts from this era wishing we were still in League 1 instead of trying to avoid relegation to the Conference

[Mark]

Come on, well I don't regret things I said back then as the team he put together that season meant we were on a downward spiral whether he stayed or not.

I remember referring to the QPR game not so long ago, but if you're having regrets just take a look at the line up, it's enough to make you weep!

[LeeCovFox]

Who posted that?

Tell me it wasn't me.

It wasn't you. Somebody called Daniel11.

[davieG]

It wasn't you. Somebody called Daniel11.

Well I wrote this after a game in September 2005, a certain Mr Holloway was the QPR Manager, it's ironic that having got over that it's the same guy who's partly responsible for restoring the feeling I felt then.

That's still the worst game of football at any level that i've ever witnessed.

Today is a milestone in my support, it's the first time ever that I've wanted to leave a football match at half-time, I can count on the fingers of one hand the times I've even wanted to leave early. It's the first time ever that I've not been interested in the other results, this from someone who likes to keep abreast of all the top flight English Leagues. I'm so disgusted with today that I couldn't even listen to the results on the radio.

Well what about today/

QPR, if diving, cheating and play-acting is what you've sunk to in order to win a match then frankly you've reached the bottom of the cesspit of football. I'd be ashamed to be one of their supporters. Stan Bowles must be crying in his sleep.

The Referee – should we call him that, inept, jobs worth that was suckered into ever trick that QPR could muster. Wasting more time on his own than QPR could've ever have dreamt of managing. When will referees realise that they are officiating what is supposed to be entertainment, if they are doing their job properly they should be anonymous, we don't pay good money to watch them. Dismissals should be the last resort, not the first and not as a result of some playacting and bowing to the pressure of a bunch of players hell bent on ruining the game. If he were a relative or close friend of mine I'd tell him to pack it in.

Leicester City – well do they understand that the game is first and foremost about teamwork, the collective strength that that brings, hopefully sprinkled with a little individual brilliance. That was 11, sorry 10 individuals out there I could not see one trace of working as a team, ok there were one or two example of individual excellence. Should we be surprised with the increasingly bizarre team selections/positions that we see?

I can accept losing, I can accept some periods of poor play but football is taking the piss if it thinks that collective display today had anything remotely to do with football and to then expect people to pay significant sums of money to see it, well unless someone can relight those dying embers for me they will not being seeing much more of my hard earned cash, I'll gladly give it to someone else.

[Webbo]

unless someone can relight those dying embers for me they will not being seeing much more of my hard earned cash, I'll gladly give it to someone else.

I bet you're still saying that in another 4 years.

[Thracian]

In 4 years time let's hope no one's digging out posts from this era wishing we were still in League 1 instead of trying to avoid relegation to the Conference

It's frightening to look at that picture and imagine just what they'd have done to today's Leicester team.

If memory serves that was pretty well the side that beat the Manchester United of Law, Best, Charlton, Crerard, 6-0 at Filbert Street one midweek evening.

And also became a bogey side to the best Liverpool team I ever saw, legendary manager Bill Shankly and all.

[dandannieldanok]

A post from October 11th 2004, Micky Adams had just left:

Good riddance, hope nothing goes right for you in the future.

Thank you for taking us up with another managers squad.

Thanks for also signing about 30 old men in your time here and taking us down.

Thanks for never playing young players.

Thanks for sacking one of the unbeatable defenders.

Thanks for turning this club into a shit footballing side and leaving us 12th in the championship.

Thanks for the shit discipline you gave to the club.

Oh and thank you micky.

Glad to see the back of you.

To think, thats as bad as we thought things could get.

To be fair to the idiot who posted this, their views were backed by 90% of the fans, who moaned like bloody Wolves fans because we were falling short of promotion.

[LeeCovFox]

To be fair to the idiot who posted this, their views were backed by 90% of the fans, who moaned like bloody Wolves fans because we were falling short of promotion.

Oh I'm certainly not slagging off the poster. I agree, many of us thought the same. I do think it goes to show how arrogant we can be as fans collectively though, and I include myself in that.

[Basingstoke Fox]

Well I wrote this after a game in September 2005, a certain Mr Holloway was the QPR Manager, it's ironic that having got over that it's the same guy who's partly responsible for restoring the feeling I felt then.

That's still the worst game of football at any level that i've ever witnessed.

Was that from when we fooked up a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2?

[Corky]

Was that from when we fooked up a 2-0 lead to lose 3-2?

No, it was the next season at the Walkers Stadium, and we lost 2-1 to Holloway's bunch of thugs. We were awful that day, Maybury got sent-off for kicking out after Furlong nearly caught him with a lunge, then Shittu got involved and threw punches. No sending-off for him, and Cook started diving all over the place.

It was a horrible day, and I still regard that Qpr team the dirtiest I've ever seen, led by Holloway. Absolute disgrace.

[The Stig]

I've long said that Micky Adams leaving was a huge blow for the club. We should have given him time to rebuild follow relegation, we didn't. The fans forced him out. I said at the time it was the wrong decsision, and I'll always say it.

[Ultra]

I've long said that Micky Adams leaving was a huge blow for the club. We should have given him time to rebuild follow relegation, we didn't. The fans forced him out. I said at the time it was the wrong decision, and I'll always say it.

Anyone who saw either of the two Preston games at the end of Adams's reign knew he had passed his sell-by date.

The efforts of the previous season (Premier League relegation battle, lack of funds, La Manga) had caught up with him. Our form had been poor in a number of games already that season, especially at home, and Adams had lost the confidence of some of the senior players, as well as the fans.

The board made the right decision in letting him go. Unfortunately, its choice of successor wasn't the best, and our decline continued to the present sorry state we find ourselves now.

[LeeCovFox]

Anyone who saw either of the two Preston games at the end of Adams's reign knew he had passed his sell-by date.

The efforts of the previous season (Premier League relegation battle, lack of funds, La Manga) had caught up with him. Our form had been poor in a number of games already that season, especially at home, and Adams had lost the confidence of some of the senior players, as well as the fans.

The board made the right decision in letting him go. Unfortunately, its choice of successor wasn't the best, and our decline continued to the present sorry state we find ourselves now.

I think that you're right about Micky having passed his sell by date with us. But what I do not believe is correct is the vitriolic abuse he received from certain elements of our support. I think his time at our club left him a shell of the ,an he wass previously, which isn't surprising given the events that took place during his time in charge.

[Webbo]

Micky Adams had lost the plot, there's no doubt about that.I didn't want him sacked because I thought he deserved better than that, but I relieved when he resigned.

[Ultra]

I'd agree that, on reflection a lot of the criticism made towards Adams was way over-the-top, especially given his previous record of achievement with us.

But the standard of football in the early part of 04-05 was the worst seen at that time since the Pleat era of the early 90s. Although a large-scale rebuilding job was taking place (similar to the one which will be needed this summer), that in itself should not excuse abject performances we witnessed against the likes of Brighton, Burnley, and Millwall.

It was also clear that many of the players who arrived at City during that time were not suited to the style of hoofball that Adams had favoured during the two previous seasons. That created tension within the squad which in turn had a further adverse effect in performances.

The club, then as now, suffered badly from a lack of creativity and ideas both on and off the field.

[iancognito]

To be fair, Adams had lost the plot a bit and his teams had no killer instinct. The year we were relegated from the Prem we lost something like 60% of the games we took a lead in and drew another 30 odd % (I'm sure some statto will correct me on the exact numbers but if we'd hung on in two or three more games we'd have been safe that year) and just when we thought that we'd rebuild and get promotion the following year, he filled the team with more journeymen and one-year contract no-hopers. Added to that, the side kept the jellyfish-esque spine it had the previous season and continued to throw leads away.

Hindsight is a brilliant thing. There were equal numbers wanted O'Neill gone after a dozen games, Megson the same and the treatment that was dished out to Brian Little for assembling a three promotion challenging sides was disgraceful. If we knew what the future held, I'm ssure everyone would have bit their tongues a bit more.

[Floating Fox]

Come on, well I don't regret things I said back then as the team he put together that season meant we were on a downward spiral whether he stayed or not.

I remember referring to the QPR game not so long ago, but if you're having regrets just take a look at the line up, it's enough to make you weep!

Agreed.

He didn't help out downward spiral. I'd gladly be in 12th place, but I certainly wouldn't have him back.

[Ultra]

To be fair, Adams had lost the plot a bit and his teams had no killer instinct. The year we were relegated from the Prem we lost something like 60% of the games we took a lead in and drew another 30 odd % (I'm sure some statto will correct me on the exact numbers but if we'd hung on in two or three more games we'd have been safe that year) and just when we thought that we'd rebuild and get promotion the following year, he filled the team with more journeymen and one-year contract no-hopers. Added to that, the side kept the jellyfish-esque spine it had the previous season and continued to throw leads away.

Hindsight is a brilliant thing. There were equal numbers wanted O'Neill gone after a dozen games, Megson the same and the treatment that was dished out to Brian Little for assembling a three promotion challenging sides was disgraceful. If we knew what the future held, I'm ssure everyone would have bit their tongues a bit more.

Adams brought in a lot of dross (Makin, Gemmill, Blake) that summer, but also made some decent signings such as Connolly, Gudjonsson, Williams and Tiatto.

The side still lacked mental strength though, a failing which none of the managers we have had since that time has been able to correct.

[Jordan]

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[The People's Hero]

Gabor Bori would be turning in his grave.