Master Fox Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 Mk Dons are just a shite selling club or feeder club. Most people they get rid off fail at there next club Allen, Mcleod. (Canne think of no more.) You're not very good at this are you? You don't really have anything worthwhie to say about anything.
Uncle Albert Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 You're not very good at this are you? You don't really have anything worthwhie to say about anything. Hummmm.... Coming from an arsehole like yourself that is rich.
Master Fox Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 Hummmm.... Coming from an arsehole like yourself that is rich.
RedOnRed Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 Mk Dons are just a shite selling club or feeder club. Most people they get rid off fail at there next club Allen, Mcleod. (Canne think of no more.) You're forgetting former players like Nigel Reo-Coker who's now playing for Villa. Patrick Aygemang who just a had a good season and several others that have done fairly well after leaving. It's taken us a good two years to recover from administration. We sold McLeod and Platt on for tidy profits but admittedly they haven't cut it. What i'm more interested in is have we spent wisely and in that sense we have by buying loads of decent players on either a free or next to nothing. Many of whom are still in their prime and have more then produced the goods for us.
PAULCFC Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 Just s a matter of interest REDONRED,are there many old school Dons fans make the journey up for your games and what has Plough Lane been turned into now?Remember going there many years ago.
Vacamion Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 I don't get all of this "MK Dons aren't a proper club" stuff. Are people just trying to wind them up because they are our new (fairly) local rivals ?
RedOnRed Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 Just s a matter of interest REDONRED,are there many old school Dons fans make the journey up for your games and what has Plough Lane been turned into now?Remember going there many years ago. We have quite a lot of old Dons fans that still support and go to matches. They understand what and why it all happened. I understand Plough Lane was demolished a few years ago and housing is now on the old site.
davieG Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 The survival bit is always going to be debatable and speculative but they had been homeless for 13 years and arrived under administration. Basically, they were homeless, broke and insolvent. The damage had already been done by Haman selling them to Norwegians and then the Norwegians pulling the financial plug on them.I suppose that's one undeniable way of putting it. I think the whole idea was to offer a home to a club. What happened with Wimbledon was that they arrived broke and ended up being taken over and re-named. No sense in calling them Wimbledon in MK. Although if they had of retained the name I think it would have saved a lot of hatred. But Wimbledon haven't survived at least not with MKDs is there any connection at all in 2008 between MKDs & Wimbledon other than you took their place in the Football League? I don't even think calling you a franchise club is the least bit accurate, you are a brand new club who through various administrative shenanigans managed to by pass the normal routes into the Football League by taking the place of Wimbledon Anyway I'm bored and don't really care - life's to short to worry about this especially when the club I support is like a bloody circus.
DonsFan Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 The connection is in the several hundred Wimbledon fans who still get to watch league football. And from what I've heard from most of them, they enjoy supporting MK more, and feel they are treated better as fans here than they ever were at Wimbledon.
RedOnRed Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 But Wimbledon haven't survived at least not with MKDs is there any connection at all in 2008 between MKDs & Wimbledon other than you took their place in the Football League?I don't even think calling you a franchise club is the least bit accurate, you are a brand new club who through various administrative shenanigans managed to by pass the normal routes into the Football League by taking the place of Wimbledon Anyway I'm bored and don't really care - life's to short to worry about this especially when the club I support is like a bloody circus. The important thing to remember is that it was Wimbledon that moved to Milton Keynes as Wimbledon and they didn't arrive as the MK Dons. Wimbledon relocated with all of their players and staff. The only thing that is really new about the club is the location and name and the hierachy changing due to coming out of administration. Other then that it's very much the same bloodline and evolution.
Daggers Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 The connection is in the several hundred Wimbledon fans who still get to watch league football. And from what I've heard from most of them, they enjoy supporting MK more, and feel they are treated better as fans here than they ever were at Wimbledon. Woooooooo!
davieG Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 The important thing to remember is that it was Wimbledon that moved to Milton Keynes as Wimbledon and they didn't arrive as the MK Dons. Wimbledon relocated with all of their players and staff. The only thing that is really new about the club is the location and name and the hierachy changing due to coming out of administration. Other then that it's very much the same bloodline and evolution. As I said administrative shenanigans - how many of those that moved are still supporting MKDs, and the only ones that really count are the fans because most of the others including the players were just doing a job and moved like many would if their company relocated. Show me that a significant number of Wimbledon fans still travel to MKDs to see home matches and I might start to believe you. Any way as I said in 20/30 years no one will give a damn as most of the fans, if they're not already will be people that reside in or used to reside in MKs.
PAULCFC Posted 7 June 2008 Posted 7 June 2008 We have quite a lot of old Dons fans that still support and go to matches. They understand what and why it all happened.I understand Plough Lane was demolished a few years ago and housing is now on the old site. I Supose looking at from the perspective of a Wimbledon fan and reading your last post about just relocating in this country at least(not going to Ireland).It's the best the old Dons could have done.Good to know there's still a few of the original fans still going.Can't say they were one of my favourite clubs when we used to play them.(Vinny Jones and the rest of em!)But they had a bit of (recent) history.FA cup winners and knocking out the hammers when they were still in Div 3 (i think!).Just the way football has become.......££££££££.
Ultra Posted 8 June 2008 Posted 8 June 2008 As I said administrative shenanigans - how many of those that moved are still supporting MKDs, and the only ones that really count are the fans because most of the others including the players were just doing a job and moved like many would if their company relocated.Show me that a significant number of Wimbledon fans still travel to MKDs to see home matches and I might start to believe you. Any way as I said in 20/30 years no one will give a damn as most of the fans, if they're not already will be people that reside in or used to reside in MKs. Most of the former Wimbledon fans who still attend matches now watch AFC Wimbledon, who are in Conference South. Wouldn't it be amusing if MK Dons were drawn against AFC in the cup?
Lillehamring Posted 8 June 2008 Posted 8 June 2008 Anyway, I get the point...you hate the MK Dons and think we're a franchise and shouldn't exist etc, etc. In fact you were telling me the exact same stuff relentlessly about a year go. But that of course doesn't stop you incessantly wanting our managers which is what we're talking about right? ...not to mention the fact that you will probably beat or do better than us next season. The survival bit is always going to be debatable and speculative but they had been homeless for 13 years and arrived under administration. Basically, they were homeless, broke and insolvent. The damage had already been done by Haman selling them to Norwegians and then the Norwegians pulling the financial plug on them. Fu<king Norwegians seriously, tho - as TPH said, it's all the other clubs that no longer exist that i feel sorry for, in fact, the old wimbledon only entered the top flight in the late 70s, so i'm sure there were more worthy candidates to become MKDons - which kinda emphasises what a rubbish situation it is, ie whichever team it had been that were 'saved', effectively they still wouldn't exist... the fact that only a 'few hundred' old dons fans turn up is probably caus MK isn't too far away, if it had been a team from the north east, would anyone make the trip? and what about the team that dropped to the conference the year they formed, they must really resent MKDons. BTW, citing arsenal moving 100 years ago is a very desparate argument, and hardly comparable, just a different bus route, not a different county and at a time when very few clubs were owners of their own ground, and representative more often of clubs and societies rather than towns
Maybes Posted 8 June 2008 Posted 8 June 2008 You're forgetting former players like Nigel Reo-Coker who's now playing for Villa. Patrick Aygemang who just a had a good season and several others that have done fairly well after leaving.It's taken us a good two years to recover from administration. We sold McLeod and Platt on for tidy profits but admittedly they haven't cut it. What i'm more interested in is have we spent wisely and in that sense we have by buying loads of decent players on either a free or next to nothing. Many of whom are still in their prime and have more then produced the goods for us. He played for Wimbledon....not MK.
RedOnRed Posted 8 June 2008 Posted 8 June 2008 ...not to mention the fact that you will probably beat or do better than us next season.Fu<king Norwegians seriously, tho - as TPH said, it's all the other clubs that no longer exist that i feel sorry for, in fact, the old wimbledon only entered the top flight in the late 70s, so i'm sure there were more worthy candidates to become MKDons - which kinda emphasises what a rubbish situation it is, ie whichever team it had been that were 'saved', effectively they still wouldn't exist... the fact that only a 'few hundred' old dons fans turn up is probably caus MK isn't too far away, if it had been a team from the north east, would anyone make the trip? and what about the team that dropped to the conference the year they formed, they must really resent MKDons. BTW, citing arsenal moving 100 years ago is a very desparate argument, and hardly comparable, just a different bus route, not a different county and at a time when very few clubs were owners of their own ground, and representative more often of clubs and societies rather than towns I think you'd find that making a fairly long journey across London 100 years ago if you were working class would probably be equally as hard and less affordable then jumping in your car and driving 60 miles today. He played for Wimbledon....not MK. When Wimbledon first arrived and became the MK Dons Reo-Coker was the captain. He was sold to West Ham shortly after to balance the books by the administrators. I was at MK Dons very first home game and he was the captain.
Lillehamring Posted 8 June 2008 Posted 8 June 2008 I think you'd find that making a fairly long journey across London 100 years ago if you were working class would probably be equally as hard and less affordable then jumping in your car and driving 60 miles today. i'm sure a stroll up from grenwich to highbury would be nothing to someone who would walk everywhere, not to mention the trams etc, but of course that isn't the point - relocating up the road is not the same of usurping via the backdoor the league position of a totally unrelated team, and by citing arsenal in any defence of this is pointless as it is a totally different situation in a time when the game was an amateur pastime not a multimillion pound business
RedOnRed Posted 8 June 2008 Posted 8 June 2008 i'm sure a stroll up from grenwich to highbury would be nothing to someone who would walk everywhere, not to mention the trams etc, but of course that isn't the point - relocating up the road is not the same of usurping via the backdoor the league position of a totally unrelated team, and by citing arsenal in any defence of this is pointless as it is a totally different situation in a time when the game was an amateur pastime not a multimillion pound business I disagree and the thing that you and others miss is that Wimbledon lock, stock and barrel moved to MK. The fact that they were renamed seems to lead people to believe that they are two separate entities. they are/were the same club but different only in name and location. Anyway, lets not go up that slippery slope eh?
davieG Posted 8 June 2008 Posted 8 June 2008 I disagree and the thing that you and others miss is that Wimbledon lock, stock and barrel moved to MK. The fact that they were renamed seems to lead people to believe that they are two separate entities. they are/were the same club but different only in name and location.Anyway, lets not go up that slippery slope eh? You keep thinking that if it makes you happy but those of us on the outside looking in can see that is not the case - life's too short to care.
Foxes_Trust Posted 8 June 2008 Posted 8 June 2008 I disagree and the thing that you and others miss is that Wimbledon lock, stock and barrel moved to MK. The fact that they were renamed seems to lead people to believe that they are two separate entities. they are/were the same club but different only in name and location.Anyway, lets not go up that slippery slope eh? The point that upsets fans from many other clubs, is that a new club set up in Milton Keynes should have played their way through the League system to achieve being in the Football League like every other club does, not just takeover another club and gain a good league position from scratch.
Shrenchel Posted 8 June 2008 Posted 8 June 2008 This is getting boring, so in summary...you're cheating,soulless franchise scum but your seats are comfy, there's a few old dears from the wimbledon days that make the trip up and nigel reo-coker played for you for about 3 games before seeing sense.
Daggers Posted 8 June 2008 Posted 8 June 2008 This is getting boring, so in summary...you're cheating,soulless franchise scum but your seats are comfy, there's a few old dears from the wimbledon days that make the trip up and nigel reo-coker played for you for about 3 games before seeing sense.
Ric Flair Posted 9 June 2008 Posted 9 June 2008 I really don't know why people get upset about MKDons/Wimbledon. Arsenal did far worse than they did many years ago.
Daggers Posted 9 June 2008 Posted 9 June 2008 I really don't know why people get upset about MKDons/Wimbledon. Arsenal did far worse than they did many years ago. If you mean by moving from South to North London in 1913 after they became bankrupt and folded then I am not sure I see the link or how it was worse?
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