lildave3 Posted 22 February 2009 Posted 22 February 2009 I must admit I liked him as a player and dont dislike him as a manager. But that's just out of order.
Thracian Posted 22 February 2009 Posted 22 February 2009 "I would love to drop an elbow on Roy Keane." Sooner you than me, pal. But then I'm way past my ideal fighting weight!
CosbehFox Posted 22 February 2009 Posted 22 February 2009 I'd take Keane anytime over the fence sitters and bullshitters. Also quoted in the article as signing players he didn't rate because he needed bodies. That's right - let's spend £50 million plus on 'bodies' who the manager doesn't think much of.
Koke Posted 22 February 2009 Posted 22 February 2009 Keane talks too much. I'm all for speaking your mind and telling it how it is, but you got to keep your big gob closed at certain times. He has an opinion on everything and is too outspoken, which is one of his downfalls and which is why I think he'll always be a yo-yo manager bouncing up and down the leagues.
Nationwider Posted 22 February 2009 Posted 22 February 2009 He won't ever get a job managing a serious club. He's an interesting guy, certainly not the knuckle dragger some people make out. I suspect he meant no malice in what he purports to have said about Clive Clarke at the time of his heart attack. But its typical Keane that he's had a pop at Clarke after the allegations he lost the dressing room. He couldn't let something like that lie. O'Neill or Ferguson would never give an interview like that to a red top. Keane actually comes across as being a bit of a hypocrite - happy to slate his own players for their avarice, but then willingly takes a few grand from a tabloid to tout for a new job and pay for the new kitchen. He's ruled by the heart, not the head and far too outspoken and stuck in his ways to be taken on by any of the billionaire owners/consortia that own the Premiership big boys these days. There aren't any other Irish owners out there to take pity on him which leaves Mike Ashley as the only person daft enough to employ him. And stranger things have happened..... Like Newell, Holloway, Allen etc he's too much of a loose cannon to ever be regarded as a serious proposition for top-flight club owners.
Anish Posted 22 February 2009 Posted 22 February 2009 I'd take Keane anytime over the fence sitters and bullshitters.Keane is one of the few who have the courage to say what they're thinking and to cut the diplomatic crap. So he had his views on Clarke. Big deal. Lots of people work together and don't get on. Doesn't sound like Clarke was too hot on Keane either. Sometimes I think Keane is right, sometimes quite the opposite. But the bloke was a bloody good footballer. He achieved things and football, like all sports, needs personalities. Whether you like em or not. Sorry but Keane was way out of line with what he said. There's something called professionalism and respect for your fellow human beings, especially after what Clive Clarke went through - and Keane clearly lacks both of them. Yes you may have problems with your colleagues, but you don't joke about somebody almost losing his life in that manner. The fact that you're even defending Keane merely because he has courage and was a damned good footballer (which I will never dispute) shows your true values. For me being respectful and honourable comes well above being successful and courageous.
ASH17LCFC Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 Quite funny, Clarke walking round like he's STANLEY BLOOMIN MATTHEWS Sounds like he learnt alot fom Cloughie. I always like Roy Keane, honest man.
Ultra Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 We don't know what went on between Keane and Clarke at Sunderland. There are plenty of ex-City players and managers, from last season and beyond, that I wouldn't unduly mourn if they were to suffer the same fate as Clarke. Keane is clearly influenced by his two mentors Brian Clough and Sir Alex Ferguson - both massively successful managers who didn't give a damn whose feathers they ruffled. One day he may reach the same heights that they did. But first he'll have to find a chairman who he can get along with - and that may take some time.
BoneDog Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 What the piss is the man on. Fair enough having your say in private to your mates. But he was slagging off Clarke the very moment he heard he'd had a heart attack? THE MOMENT HE HEARD. That is wrong, no matter how big a man you think you are. Someone comes and tells you a player has just had a heart attack and your first reaction is to say what he said. That just shows what kind of a person you are. I've lost any respect for the hairy shithole and it don't matter how hard he thinks he is, he aint a man. Men have got respect for others in situations like that.
ASH17LCFC Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 We don't know what went on between Keane and Clarke at Sunderland.There are plenty of ex-City players and managers, from last season and beyond, that I wouldn't unduly mourn if they were to suffer the same fate as Clarke. Keane is clearly influenced by his two mentors Brian Clough and Sir Alex Ferguson - both massively successful managers who didn't give a damn whose feathers they ruffled. One day he may reach the same heights that they did. But first he'll have to find a chairman who he can get along with - and that may take some time. Sam Longson
Guest nathan. Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 What the piss is the man on. Fair enough having your say in private to your mates. But he was slagging off Clarke the very moment he heard he'd had a heart attack? THE MOMENT HE HEARD. That is wrong, no matter how big a man you think you are. Someone comes and tells you a player has just had a heart attack and your first reaction is to say what he said. That just shows what kind of a person you are. I've lost any respect for the hairy shithole and it don't matter how hard he thinks he is, he aint a man. Men have got respect for others in situations like that. Spot on there mate, no respect what so ever Reading that artical has really hacked me off KEANE YOU ARE SCUM!
Ultra Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 What the piss is the man on. Fair enough having your say in private to your mates. But he was slagging off Clarke the very moment he heard he'd had a heart attack? THE MOMENT HE HEARD. That is wrong, no matter how big a man you think you are. Someone comes and tells you a player has just had a heart attack and your first reaction is to say what he said. That just shows what kind of a person you are. I've lost any respect for the hairy shithole and it don't matter how hard he thinks he is, he aint a man. Men have got respect for others in situations like that. Like I said before, we don't know what went off between them previously, so cannot judge the context in which he uttered the words. There are a lot of people I've worked with and for who have hated me and I've hated them back. If I was informed that they had had a heart attack I couldn't guarantee that I'd show any more respect towards them than Keane did. Indeed if anyone here heard that D****s W**e had had a heart attack and didn't feel the urge to dance with delight, they're clearly no fan of Leicester City.
BoneDog Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 Like I said before, we don't know what went off between them previously, so cannot judge the context in which he uttered the words.There are a lot of people I've worked with and for who have hated me and I've hated them back. If I was informed that they had had a heart attack I couldn't guarantee that I'd show any more respect towards them than Keane did. Indeed if anyone here heard that D****s W**e had had a heart attack and didn't feel the urge to dance with delight, they're clearly no fan of Leicester City. Like I said, say what you want in private but to disrespect like that and tell the whole world about it I think is wrong. It doesn't matter what personal problems they had, it's not like it was Hitler had just had a heart attack. I consider myself a hardcore Leicester fan through and through but I wouldn't dance in the street if I heard Wise might die. I hate the **** but he has family who would be suffering and anything he has done is not down to them. I know some people would celebrate, I'm just saying I wouldn't.
ASH17LCFC Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 Like I said, say what you want in private but to disrespect like that and tell the whole world about it I think is wrong. It doesn't matter what personal problems they had, it's not like it was Hitler had just had a heart attack.I consider myself a hardcore Leicester fan through and through but I wouldn't dance in the street if I heard Wise might die. I hate the **** but he has family who would be suffering and anything he has done is not down to them. I know some people would celebrate, I'm just saying I wouldn't. He cheats, he lies, we hope he fooking dies, DENNIS WISE DENNIS WISE !!!
ASH17LCFC Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 Some folks are just rock hard! I doubt your even a Leicester fan
BoneDog Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 Been to 50 times more games than you bredda. Why do you doubt? Cos I wouldn't celebrate if Dennis Wise died?
James. Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 Indeed if anyone here heard that D****s W**e had had a heart attack and didn't feel the urge to dance with delight, they're clearly no fan of Leicester City. I wouldn't feel the urge to dance with delight. Someone would just have died. I'd be fairly indifferent if anything. Keane is a cunt. For a more detailed insight into my views see the posts of Nationwider and Kareem.
Durnerz Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 Keane simply can't resist being controversial and having the attention, has done for years. Sadly this won't get him any closer to bagging a new job anytime soon. If Keane had a problem with Clarke why go through the media to have a dig, especially in that sense? I have no respect for the man.
Alexikokopops Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 He won't ever get a job managing a serious club. He's an interesting guy, certainly not the knuckle dragger some people make out. I suspect he meant no malice in what he purports to have said about Clive Clarke at the time of his heart attack. But its typical Keane that he's had a pop at Clarke after the allegations he lost the dressing room. He couldn't let something like that lie. O'Neill or Ferguson would never give an interview like that to a red top. Keane actually comes across as being a bit of a hypocrite - happy to slate his own players for their avarice, but then willingly takes a few grand from a tabloid to tout for a new job and pay for the new kitchen.He's ruled by the heart, not the head and far too outspoken and stuck in his ways to be taken on by any of the billionaire owners/consortia that own the Premiership big boys these days. There aren't any other Irish owners out there to take pity on him which leaves Mike Ashley as the only person daft enough to employ him. And stranger things have happened..... Like Newell, Holloway, Allen etc he's too much of a loose cannon to ever be regarded as a serious proposition for top-flight club owners. Spot on. He's got his knickers in a twist because Clarke said something he didn't like so decided to be a hypocritical toilet and sell a story to the tabloids just to get him back, while filling out the rest of it with excuses about his time at Sunderland and why he spent four billion pound on absolute crap.
Hullfox Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 Indeed if anyone here heard that D****s W**e had had a heart attack and didn't feel the urge to dance with delight, they're clearly no fan of Leicester City. Fook me, all these years, all that money and now - only now does someone point out to me that I'm clearly no fan of Leicester City. Shit, I feel so stupid now.
DB11 Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 Keane talks too much. I'm all for speaking your mind and telling it how it is, but you got to keep your big gob closed at certain times. Holloway, Holloway! IAN HOLLOWAY!
Thracian Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 Sadly this won't get him any closer to bagging a new job anytime soon. Different issue of course and it wouldn't surprise me if a great many clubs choose to avoid him. For such a macho man his departure from Sunderland painted him as a quitter. And, considering he was still trying to build a reputation as a promising manager it was the last thing he wanted on his CV. Many cope with a few failures in football but copping out leaves a nasty taste. And insensitive remarks such as he came out with concerning Clarke are only likely to make other prospective employers think twice about approaching him. In terms of strategic thinking the comments were reckless. I'll defend his right to make them and reiterate my view that football needs characters but that doesn't mean I don't think he was daft. Quite the contrary. In diplomatic terms, both his walkout and his Clarke comments were metaphorically suicidal.
Lovejoy Posted 23 February 2009 Posted 23 February 2009 I don't give a fcuk about how good a player he was, he is a w@nker.
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